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A brief exchange between myself and Whatsisface utterly confused Keith-Kid, the poor bairn.

That reminded me that, as well as the language confusion between English and American (we walk on pavements, you drive on them), there is a deeper, older division.

I am from Cumberland. It's "Cumbria" now, but it's old - many of the town names are Icelandic and Viking in origin. Parts of the county were so insular that neighbouring valleys had different languages. The town of my birth is Workington - the name translates as "The town of the people of Worca" - the town, and the land around it, were a small tribal state, ruled by King Worca.

So, I thought I'd lay down a little challenge.

What do you think these traditional Cumbrian dialect words mean?

Google if you must, but you're probably wasting your time...

  • Thissen - yourself, you
  • Sneck
  • Shillies
  • Hag worm
  • Segs
  • Scrunt
  • Tupping
  • Uppies and downies - Traditional precursor to football. Played at Easter.
  • Whisht - Quiet, be quiet - "Haud your whisht", Be quiet.
  • Tod - Fox. You can also be "on your tod" = alone.

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whatsisface (author)2008-07-24

Tod meaning to be on your tod?

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whatsisface (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

Same meaning as To be on your Bill, Billy No mates.

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Kiteman (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

Point to that man!

Eight to go...

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Kiteman (author)Kiteman2008-07-24

I forgot - alone is the English translation. There's an older meaning, from which "alone" was taken.

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whatsisface (author)Kiteman2008-07-24

I just realised alone is comprised of a and lone, as in a lone person.

I'm smart, really I am

and I can ride my bike fast.

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Kiteman (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

You're getting close - what animal is known for wandering around, alone?

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Kiteman (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

No wolves in Cumberland for a few centuries...

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Kiteman (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

You were closer with wolf...

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whatsisface (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

Come on, you must get it, you're a teacher.

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Kiteman (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

But not an English teacher. It's nothing to do with daffodils, try John Peel instead.

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whatsisface (author)Kiteman2008-07-25

So you didn't get the reference? I wandered lonely as a cloud... etc?

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Kiteman (author)whatsisface2008-07-25

It's not cloud, either. You were definitely much closer when you thought "wolf".

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CameronSS (author)Kiteman2008-07-25

Er...fox? As in the picture?

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Kiteman (author)CameronSS2008-07-26

He shoots, he eventually scores!

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Kiteman (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

Ah, but what is a tod when one is on it?

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Keith-Kid (author)2008-07-25
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crapflinger (author)2008-07-24

kite...you do know that you're single handedly ruining the internet by actually putting something educational on it right? someone post some porn to equalize the balance....QUICK! Thissen would be yourself?

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Kiteman (author)crapflinger2008-07-24

Correct!
(Did you google?)

As for porn, I suppose one of those words could be taken as rude. Or fun, if you're a sheep.

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crapflinger (author)Kiteman2008-07-25

i can honestly say i didn't google....

i did go to http://www.worldwidewords.org/index.htm though hehehe

came up in the definition for attercop
http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-att1.htm

"Tha’ won’t go in cos’ of an attercop? Tha’s an attercop thissen!”. [tha: you; thissen: yourself.]
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crapflinger (author)crapflinger2008-07-25

hmmm that didn't post right...stupid auto formatting " “Tha’ won’t go in cos’ of an attercop? Tha’s an attercop thissen!”. ~tha: you; thissen: yourself.~ ""

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crapflinger (author)Kiteman2008-07-25

hehe yeah i'd defy anyone to translate that last quote from me about the attercop if i hadn't posted the link to WWWords

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Kiteman (author)crapflinger2008-07-26

I like the extension - cross-grained people. I know a couple of people like that on this site...

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tomonto (author)2008-07-24

Uppies and downies

elevator?

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Kiteman (author)tomonto2008-07-24

Uppies and downies is a lot older than elevators!

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tomonto (author)tomonto2008-07-24

does it happen to be a historical version of football, dating to Medieval times. all hail the power of teh googlez.

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Kiteman (author)tomonto2008-07-24

On the nose!

Up and Down being directions in a town on a hill. There are no limits on team-size, and matches sometimes last late into the night (the match ends with the first goal), with the ball sometimes only moving inches at a time in the centre of a giant scrum.

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ll.13 (author)2008-07-24

Uppies and downies Referring to the social ladder?

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Kiteman (author)ll.132008-07-24

Certainly a social phenomenon, but wholly working class.

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Weissensteinburg (author)2008-07-24

Segs - A two wheeled method of transportation?

Kite, do you guys have an oil well in your back yard?

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Last kind of Cumberland Farm I heard of made Cumberland Sausage.

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Kiteman (author)whatsisface2008-07-24

The best Cumberland Sausages come from Haigh's butchers.

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Kiteman (author)Weissensteinburg2008-07-24

Segs are vaguely connected to transport...

Cumberland Farms is just a distributor - I think they may have started as a cooperative.

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Keith-Kid (author)2008-07-24
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ll.13 (author)2008-07-24

Thissen
This one? 'kay, that was probably a total failure.

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Labot2001 (author)ll.132008-07-24

Nah, you must be confusing Cumbria with the American South.

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Kiteman (author)Labot20012008-07-24

This'n, meaning "this one" is just modern laziness.

Thissen is pronounced thi-sen - slight emphasis on the second syllable.

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ll.13 (author)2008-07-24

Whisht
Shut up (or be quiet)

=D

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ll.13 (author)Kiteman2008-07-24

Did not! I don't live in Scotland for nothing!

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Kiteman (author)ll.132008-07-24