Okay, okay I joined. Just to make you happy. Don't expect me to add much. I don't do much rock climbing here in Topeka, KS. I manage at least one trip to the Rockies every summer, though. I'm not particularly experienced, but I get to go up the side of a 100 foot face every time I go, in addition to the various other boulders that just kind of hang out around Pike's Peak.