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Remembrance. Answered

It's that time of year again.

The best / worst part this year was the moment when the family of a local man, recently killed in action, laid a wreath and the whole parade burst into spontaneous applause.

They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
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When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say, 
For Their Tomorrow, We Gave Our Today




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Molten Boron (author)2009-11-09

Hah, in the States, ours is in May so we aren't too cold to remember.

But then, I suppose remembrance should be had every day. -_-

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kelseymh (author)Molten Boron2009-11-09

Sorry, we have two, dude.  Have you forgotten the one coming up in two days?

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Molten Boron (author)kelseymh2009-11-09

DUDE!
If we have more than one Memorial Day, then you're forgetting the third one!

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kelseymh (author)Molten Boron2009-11-09

Since that doesn't memorialize veterans of the Regular Military who were killed in war, it is not the "third one."

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Molten Boron (author)kelseymh2009-11-10

Oh! Were we talking about remembering soldiers who died? Sorry, I was talking about days which are set aside as National Holidays in which we as Americans are urged to "remember."

In a vague way.

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kelseymh (author)Molten Boron2009-11-10

Yup.  Vague, and apparently no knowledge of the actual holidays.  Try a bit of research; you might learn something.

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Molten Boron (author)kelseymh2009-11-12

Wow, I'm sorry for not having as much knowledge as you. I didn't know it would get you so riled up.

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Without speaking for anyone, I don't think it's really about you; I think that after the Rock Soldier debacle, there is a low tolerance for a lack of knowledge in this thread.

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It appears the lack of tolerance for my words preceded the "debacle" you speak of, and it also appears to have been caused by a rift between people "in the know" who are unwilling to even toss a hint to those who aren't "in the know," simply because of the existence of Google.

I don't know how my words could have been taken the wrong way, but suddenly I found myself accused of being willfully ignorant (which I am never) and felt like I was being chased by a grizzly bear. You can't argue with them, only appease them. With one of your legs. And even then it might not work. Am I allowed to comment on the social aspect of a holiday without being lambasted?

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Kiteman (author)Molten Boron2009-11-12

Please take this argument elsewhere - that was not the intent of this topic.

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kelseymh (author)Kiteman2009-11-12

You're right.  Apologies for my contribution.

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kelseymh (author)Molten Boron2009-11-12

It's not about not having the knowledge; we all, myself included, have vast areas where we don't know things.  It's about being too lazy, or too self-absorbed, to make even a minimal effort to gain knowledge by doing a bit of research.  Something as trivial as Google "Remembrance Day" would have given you all the information you needed.

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Molten Boron (author)kelseymh2009-11-12

There's your problem. You assumed I needed knowledge about it in order to participate in any discussion.

If I wanted to talk about the finer points of those holidays, I certainly would have Googled them (much better than Yahoo or Bing). But all I was doing was observing the general vagueness of the populace in their celebration of those holidays. I am sorry for not wording it in a way that would make it more obvious to you that I am not trying to engage in an in-depth discussion about the details, just my own experiences.

Please try to assume that people aren't as stupid as you treat them, and perhaps then you'll treat them less stupid.

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lemonie (author)2009-11-12

That's original at least.

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Kiteman (author)Rock Soldier2009-11-10

Seriously?  Good grief!

Google Armistice Day and Remembrance Sunday.

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Rock Soldier (author)Kiteman2009-11-10

No. I just wanted to ask a question I knew the answer to. Now I can cross that off my bucket list.

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kelseymh (author)Rock Soldier2009-11-10

Try Veterans Day if you're an American.  With a little bit of reading you might actually learn something.

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PKM (author)2009-11-09

My best friend and I ended up selling poppies on saturday morning- it's a real faith-in-humanity restorer, from the man who gave us a £20 note for a single poppy, to the girls who asked us for one as a joke and ended up buying three, to the Big Issue seller who gave us about 30 pence in coppers for his.

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kelseymh (author)PKM2009-11-09

What's "Big Issue"?  Equivalent to our Street Sense?

The whole poppy-selling thing is really cool.  As I mentioned in Kiteman's thread last year, my wife and I first saw it in Vancouver when we were living there a decade ago.  Everyone had these poppies on their lapels, and we had no idea why :-/

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lemonie (author)kelseymh2009-11-09

No hyperlink to Street Sense but probably.
You did get the background on poppies then?

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kelseymh (author)lemonie2009-11-09

Well, that's annoying.  The URL was supposed to be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Sense_%28newspaper%29 , and I did paste it into the Cmd-L popup box :-(

You asked, "You did get the background on poppies then?"  Oh, yes.  The first time we mentioned to someone, "So, why is everyone wearing flowers this week?"  And they said, basically, "Duh!  Remembrance Day."  And Google Was Our Friend :-/

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lemonie (author)kelseymh2009-11-09

I'd meant the choice of flower.
The Big Issue vendors have a habit of saying "Big Issue please" - If I want it I'll ask them...

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kelseymh (author)lemonie2009-11-09

Oh, yes.  Unfortunately, I've seen way too many Simpsons episodes, so "In Flanders Fields" has just the wrong mental image :-)

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lemonie (author)kelseymh2009-11-09

(ha yes) I have relatives that are like the Flanders...

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PKM (author)kelseymh2009-11-09

Having looked up Street Sense, it looks about the same (specifically the bit about vendors being homeless).

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