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SF's Hybrid Buses are Easy to Shut Off Answered

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This is an odd one! Apparently, kids have been playing around with the hybrid buses as they roll along -- by turning them off. The off switch is apparently just under a unlocked panel on the side of the bus.

"When that happens, the drivers can't accelerate, they lose radio contact with dispatchers and the interior lights on the buses go out. The power loss does not affect the brakes."

They say that they're working on locking the compartments -- which seems like a good start -- as well as increasing patrol among the areas, as other attacks were common.

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Keeter (author)2008-03-07

They have emergency cutoff's, just like racecars, to stop fuel flow if there is an accident. This has to be easily and quickly accessable, or else pointless. I'm not sure how safe it is to lock the compartment, though I don't know how else they're supposed to stop vandals.

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Derin (author)Keeter2008-07-07

these are electric,no fuel cutoff
however we are just to this green thing,from 2007 all new buses were converted to CNG(Natural Gas) to be green(diesel buses from 1994 to 2006 exist)
anyway,here is a pic

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Derin (author)Derin2008-07-07
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Derin (author)Derin2008-11-08

of the mercedes otomarsan(0302) series

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Derin (author)Derin2008-07-07

here is the CNG 2008 models

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Derin (author)2008-06-29

and the bus parking does not have barbs ppl can climb the fence,unplug the battery for gas buses and then piss off ppl

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Big Bwana (author)2008-03-11

would it not be simple enough to add a small switch to tell the driver that his shutoff switch door has just been opened ?? And as for aresting them, well the city just writes out a new BY-LAW and give it a $5000 fine and they can do this in a day. And then transit cops and bylaw officers can simply charge them.... (( They more then likely fine under a by law for smoking on the bus so why not for screwing with saftey systems ))

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beavis (author)2008-03-10

The operators in that yard complained they got the bad buses as they go through the poor (bad) neighbor hoods. Well the exec's agree and send the nice new buses there. So hmm what happens ? Ok heres the deal the shut off on the regular buses are on the street side not curb side! Once again the transit agency shows its ineptitude (is that a word?). The bus requirements are set by operators and engineers not by technicians. Muni's last fiasco was to enclose drivers ($'s) to protect them as requested by the operators. Well when delivered the operators complain of glare, so screens are installed ($'s) on O.T., then the operators rip them off and throw them away ($'s). Next after a few accidents the operators say the enclosures cause blind spots (DUH). Take them out and throw them away ($'s) on O.T. . Can you say budget short fall! End of Rant ;) .

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technodude92 (author)2008-03-09

here's a simple fix. a camera. the busses here already have them. i've counted 5 in total. 4 facing pasengers and doors and a fifth one facing directly ahead. One question though. how do you charge someone for shutting off a bus? the busses here in south florida have plenty of unlocked panel's. a bus actually came up to the bus stop with a couple open once. and the driver, clueless.

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ledzep567 (author)2008-03-07

hahaha they could add a bunch of other compartments and i mean BUNCHES of other ones so they would have no clue which one but they would still obey the law.

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Kiteman (author)2008-03-07

All coaches and buses, no matter what their power source, have an emergency cut-off switch under an unlocked panel, in case of accident. It has been a legal requirement for quite a few years, yet never seems to have caught on as a target for vandals. Maybe the difference is the location of the panel - they tend to be low down near the ground, or on the back, hard to reach casually from a bus-stop.

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zachninme (author)Kiteman2008-03-07

The big thing, for me, is why is it on the outside? Why can't it be near the driver?

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Kiteman (author)zachninme2008-03-07

It's for the emergency services, in case there's a crash. If the driver wants to stop the engine, he just switches off the ignition.

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Goodhart (author)2008-03-07

hey say that they're working on locking the compartments...

People just kill me LOL

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