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Schools Out For Summer Answered


Yes, just finished my last final of the semester, and having been in school part time year round since 2003, I'm taking this summer OFF!!!!!! Woo Hooo. I keep calling it the summer of love, cuz I'm gonna love every minute of it. HAHA

And barring any emergencies coming up, I'm stopping at the gun store on the way home tomorrow and getting a new toy to celebrate. yeah life is all kinds of awesome right now.


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KentsOkay (author)2011-05-01

Very nice! .380 wouldn't have been my pick of caliber but to each his own.

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Yah, most of my friend shoot 40's or 9's, and I've shot them. But the ergonomics of this gun are just fantastic. When the clerk handed it to me, it was like a firm handshake, it just fit my hand.
I have one friend who carries a pmr30 in 22WMR, that's a weird caliber choice.

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The Kel-Tec PMR30 is one interesting looking gun, but I am amazed anyone uses it as a CCW. A plinker, varminter, and backpacking gun yes, self defense, no. But then I guess 30 rounds of anything will change most people's minds about being a threat.

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craftyv (author)2011-05-03

As a Brit now living in Australia I must admit that this casual attitude towards guns is very confronting. Stay safe please.

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I think you misspelt comforting. ;-)

A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

Remember guns don't kill people, bullets do.


Boy am I in a good mood today, got made full time at work, got a million dollar project to manage (not bad for an intern) I'm getting a gun friday and going on a tour of a meat packing plant, got a new netbook, life is sweet.

Don't worry, i'm never cavalier in real life, with a gun.

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rimar2000 (author)2011-04-30

Nice toy, can you describe its specifications?

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Funny guys, those two, huh? ;-)

Rimar, like you, it's Argentinian. It's a Bersa Thunder in 380 ACP 7+1 capacity.

I have to wait until thursday to pick it up because we have a 3 day "cooling off" period here, between the purchase and taking possesion of a handgun. The wierd part is, it's 3 business days(?).

Next step is to get my concealed carry license.

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> Next step is to get my concealed carry license.
.  You already have one. See the Second Amendment to The Constitution of The United States. ;)

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kelseymh (author)NachoMahma2011-04-30

That's already been decided, contrary to your assertion. Ownership is protected, concealment is not (see Robertson v. Baldwin 1897, and DC v. Heller 2008).

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Lithium Rain (author)kelseymh2011-04-30

Don't forget McDonald v. Chicago. ;)

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Goodhart (author)Lithium Rain2011-05-02

I always thought it was McDonald vs. Burger King :-)

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NachoMahma (author)kelseymh2011-05-01

> contrary to your assertion
. See the ";)" at the end of my comment. I wasn't trying to assert anything, just making a wry comment to a fellow gun owner.

. So your assertion is that all legal decisions, laws, &c  are correct and proper? That could get very interesting.



PS: The 2nd Amendment says "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Article VI says the states have no authority on the matter - "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States ... shall be the supreme Law of the Land". Just because a few lawyers and Liberal judges can't read doesn't mean they are right.

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kelseymh (author)NachoMahma2011-05-01

Article VI predates the second and ninth amendments (by definition). Therefore, since authority to control weapons ownership was not outlined in the original constitution, it is up to the judiciary to interpret the federal relationship. Moreover, it wasn't until DC vs. Heller that a majority of the Court agreed to the out-of-context quotation you have chosen to use.

All legal decisions are binding until and unless overridden by subsequent law or precedent. That's what "the rule of law" means, and without it, you're nothing but an anarchic mob.

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NachoMahma (author)kelseymh2011-05-01

.  How does "This Constitution" in Artivcle VI not include all the Amendments?
.  If the majority of the court agrees with me, then, by your reasoning, I'm right.
. They may be binding, but that doesn't make them right or proper. Unfortunately, there are no checks to prevent illegal/bad laws/rulings.
.  Just like an anarchist mob back in the late 1700's. ;)

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kelseymh (author)NachoMahma2011-05-01

Yep. If the majority agrees with you, then it's binding (until someone convinces them otherwise).

Binding never made them right or proper. There are lots of checks and balances to recover from (and maybe even to prevent) bad laws or rulings.

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NachoMahma (author)kelseymh2011-05-01

.  There is little correlation between right and binding. Slavery was binding at one time and I don't think many ppl will argue that it is right.
.  If there were viable checks to prevent bad laws/rulings we wouldn't have the 18th Amendment, Dred Scott v. Sandford, et al. All we have are (often ineffectual) Cs&Bs to recover.

.  PS: Your anarchy is my civil disobedience. ;)

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Lithium Rain (author)NachoMahma2011-05-01

>. There is little correlation between right and binding.

...that's what he just said.

Interestingly, Kelsey's initial assertion said absolutely nothing about the "rightness" of the law. He just said it _was_ the law.

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NachoMahma (author)Lithium Rain2011-05-01

.  OK, I'm getting old and tend to repeat things.
.  At least we can agree on something. That is quite an accomplishment for a Deep-South Libertarian Redneck and a Lotus-eating Left-coast Liberal.

.  Interestingly, his following comments did. ;)

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kelseymh (author)NachoMahma2011-05-01

I think there's a lot we can agree on! At the same time, I would suggest that perhaps the disagreements (when engaged with due civility and respect) can be more interesting, and perhaps even enjoyable.

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NachoMahma (author)kelseymh2011-05-02

. Hearing "civility and respect" from one of the guys that likes to bash ppl who ask stupid questions really tickles my funny bone. ROFL

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Lithium Rain (author)NachoMahma2011-05-02

Not everyone deserves respect. ;)

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caitlinsdad (author)kelseymh2011-05-02

Are you suggesting Nacho not wear bring his legal briefs to the conversation?  I guess that would be more interesting, and perhaps even enjoyable....wait.

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Lithium Rain (author)NachoMahma2011-05-01

Wow, a Second Amendment activist who's not for state's rights! Mind = blown.

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NachoMahma (author)Lithium Rain2011-05-01

. I'm all for States Rights ... where they apply. But if it's "spoken for" in the Constitution, it's not SR.

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Lithium Rain (author)NachoMahma2011-05-01

I entirely agree...I've just (very generally) found a proclaimed belief in state's rights to be synonymous with a belief in neo-nullification.

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NachoMahma (author)Lithium Rain2011-05-01

. I suppose the label Libertarian fits me reasonably well. I'm all for personal freedom and responsibility - as long as you don't mess with others, you are free to do whatever you like. In Nacholand, we only need one law: Don't eph with nobody. ;)

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NachoMahma (author)NachoMahma2011-05-01

.  The Wikipedia entry for Libertarianism would probably be a better example of my politcal leanings instead if the Libertarian Party. As with most political parties, the Libertarian Party can get a little outrageous at times.

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Fortuitously, Florida is a "Shall Issue" state.

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Yeah, along with all but a dozen other states. Correlation is no indicator of causality. However, the correlation between domestic homicide rates (2003) and the status of those state laws is interesting.

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Gosh, I hadn't even considered murdering my wife, but now that you bring it up....... I still don't plan to, too much paperwork.

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oh and it messes up the place too....

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caitlinsdad (author)Goodhart2011-05-01

but it gives you a chance to change the big rug you really didn't like in the first place.

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Goodhart (author)caitlinsdad2011-05-02

Now that I think about it, that is advice better given to The Donald ;-)

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Goodhart (author)caitlinsdad2011-05-01

How do you get stains out of hard wood floors though?

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Goodhart (author)caitlinsdad2011-05-01

That tends to mark it up a bit..... ;-)

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Heh. I was thinking of the other way around, actually :-)

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Depending on you state you could also chose to open carry often without a license.

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Here you can not bear a gun weapon, unless you can prove you are a gangster ;(

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Kiteman (author)rimar20002011-04-30

You pull the wiggly thing, there's a bang, and holes appear in things.

Occasionally, the holes leak red stuff, and the things stop moving.

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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2011-04-30

Oh, I wish I knew which poet this was reminding me off. It's driving me absolutely batty.

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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2011-05-01

Well, the stylistic non-use of proper nouns - just vague ones like "thing" or "stuff" - is strongly reminding me of something I know I've read fairly recently - I _think_ it was a poem, or at least poetic, I just can't recall what it is! I'm starting to think it was...hm. Maybe a short story.

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Goodhart (author)Lithium Rain2011-05-01
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Lithium Rain (author)Goodhart2011-05-01

No...that's not who I'm thinking of. :)

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Goodhart (author)Lithium Rain2011-05-01

T'was a shot in the dark ;-)

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caitlinsdad (author)Lithium Rain2011-05-01

same poet that wrote "the wheels on the bus go round and round..."

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kelseymh (author)Kiteman2011-04-30

Played a bit too much COD today?

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