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Smoke bombs that explode on contact --- contest Answered

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i have decided to make a contest to see who can truly make a smoke bomb that will explode on contact with the ground no madder what part of it hits the ground. it will be graded on - ingenuity - ease to make - artistic beauty (yes it does count [just not as much]) - best instructions - safest (this grading spec will only be used if there is a tie for first place) - creativity and finally - how destructive it is you have until the end of August to turn in instructables to the destructables group

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the troll king 324 (author)2013-03-05

thread nercomancy hehe but for real the best one is kno3 and sugar or black powder mixed with stike any where match heads if done right it is great

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Vladmirthe3rd (author)2010-07-15

PS: Peeled Estes Booster painted or dipped with a bit sensitive NaClO3 and red P touch explosive you can water down with floury shit and fine sand also I think. And You can also make a magic wand of LOOSE COARSE Black powder and just pull a string. Or you can make hollow clay balls with big holes and bake at pottery club. Put a NaNO3 blackpowder for best smoke you can breathe of course and a touch explosive on a outside of inside, plug with epoxy. Throw or sling the big ones, slingshot the small ones. Why not fill the whole thing up with a giant prill of NaClO3 + red P? You go deaf I promise. We can schendt a retard into schpace! He will make a fearlessch Kosmonaut! Or for best results fill 20 liter STEEL drum intended for the hydrocarbon liquids up with LOOSE 3:2 by WEIGHT KNO3 Sugar and make sure it has a nice tight lid. You can dump it off the back of a truck! Carry it in a pram! Take it to your fathers wedding! Ride it to the zoo! And remember, the better the nice small hole (2cm) with excellent seal on lid, the better the smoke! With good seal 1/2 Rugby League Field they measure smoke in AUS.

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htex (author)2010-06-18

i have read this whole conversation not b.cus of boredom but due to the fact of how intresting it was/is y dont ya' just agree to disagree? i belive that we all have diffrent point of views and all of this can change by experiance and such u ppl are very intelectual indivdiuals but y argue of how one choses to teach or how some1 has learn or the way some1 chose to live their lives? live and let live we can influence n teach but not every1 is willing to learn you can't fill a cup thats already full we should b happy wit wat we know n try to progress n be glad that there is still ppl that have the same concepted in mind great philosophy(depending on point of view, at least that's how i see it) even if it's from slightly diffrent views im still young in the concept of life and i understand i dont understand all but i'm willing to learn from everything and every1 peace :]

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titsmagee (author)2007-09-18

how about tri-iodide. Its a contact explosive that you can look up on google. E-mail me at kid4ever7@gmail.com...look it up

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it would go off in you hand because it is to sensitive and also we went through this here i had the same idea

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Kiteman (author)master-of-chaos2007-10-11

If you make ammonium tri-iodide paste, it is nice and stable. You paint it somewhere where it will have time to dry before it is disturbed, then when it is disturbed, you get a nice crack, a puff of smoke and a big purple stain.

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Goodhart (author)Kiteman2008-01-01

Hmm, I am trying to find out if this is the same stuff I had experience with in a mid-school chem class. The thing I remember is though, that the crystals were so unstable that even a certain amount of warmth would set them off (a few discreatly placed crystals around a room could make a teacher a little upset). Is this the same thing or do I have something else in mind? If I could remember the book I got it out of I might be able to say for sure. *sigh*

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master-of-chaos (author)Goodhart2008-01-01

thats nitrogen triiodide (as long as they were black to purple)

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2008-01-01

Hmm, is that made with ammonium and iodine crystals ?

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2008-01-09

*sigh* it has been too long since..... *sigh*

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master-of-chaos (author)Goodhart2008-01-20

Many good memories of messing with your teacher, ya i hear you there. Kids now only get to do lame stuff in school unlike, purifying ammonia like we did.

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2008-01-21

Did you put a drop of glycerin in a small pile of Potassium permanganate? Spontaneous purple flame and smoke. It was part of a chem class in middle school in the late 60's but I bet it has been "done away with" now. I remember setting off a 3 inch deep pile of it with a half cup of glycerin and the teacher (who saw potential in me ;-) came back yelling: Who did this ! ? I admitted it right away, and said I was doing a slightly bigger one for several of my classmates to see at once, so they didn't have to do it individually. He then replied: Oh ok. :-) That was one fun class

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master-of-chaos (author)Goodhart2008-01-21

yes, my classes weren't quite that long ago so we couldn't do that, but i have done that as an ignition mixture for thermite. what we used to do is we had gas jets in the chemistry room and everyone would turn it all the way up and singe holes in the sealing, and when we purified ammonia the teacher told us not to put our face in it and to waft it into our noses, well lets say just as he finished telling us that you herd 3 kids bodies hit the floor.

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2009-11-25
when we purified ammonia the teacher told us not to put our face in it and to waft it into our noses, well lets say just as he finished telling us that you herd 3 kids bodies hit the floor.

Oh my,  I hope they were ok.   That can cause (best case) bleeding in the nose and sinuses, and (worst case) extensive bleeding in the lungs. 
 

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My chem teacher (the most amazing man in the world, nobody knows anything about his past, and he's the coolest guy around) makes this stuff for us depending on how he's feeling, one time he made a large batch, and we covered it up with a bunch of napkins, and one poor janitor woman came in and was cleaning up during his off period (new girl, everybody knows to not touch ANYTHING in Jones's class) and scraped it into her trashcan...she resigned shortly afterward. He called it Fly-Killer, due to when a fly lands on it, it blows up.

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Austringer (author)Kiteman2007-12-16

Somewhere I have instructions for this stuff as a classroom demo. You put three rings on a ring stand with wet filter paper on each. Divide the 0.1 gram you made among the three pieces and let dry. Then you tickle the bottom of the bottom one with a feather and the top two go off due to the loud noise.

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Tombini (author)titsmagee2008-09-24

Way to sensitive! just carrying it would be a risk

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Soraki (author)2008-01-01

awwww... you guys are soooo cute trying to figure this out. It reminds me of a photo I once saw of a middle eastern child wielding an AK-47... the knowledge and the intention are present, but the situation is utterly futile. I'm actually a shinobi (ninja soldier) -That is my rank. We don't fight much anymore, unless it's for practice. We DO however, lots of stealth training. I am accredited to teach not only hand to hand and weapons based techniques but I also teach pyrotechnics and illusion arts to our more advanced recruits. I have the knowledge and experience of making simple, safe, effective and cheap percussive S.E.Ds (smoke emitting devices). BUT... I have read other articles written by "master-of-chaos" and deem this individual unsuitable to receive this information. Other individuals who seek my knowledge are permitted to send an email explaining their cause for requiring such information and we may be swayed into revealing SOME secrets to appropriate persons.

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zipzapper859 (author)Soraki2009-08-03

i would like to know how to make S.E.D.s to lose enemys following me so they would find out my true identity

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master-of-chaos (author)Soraki2008-01-01

ah i see you have training in Kayakujutsu Shinobi-iri and probably Taijutsu and (most likely for the higher level ninjas Kenjutsu or Bōjutsu) needles to say i an rather interested in these things and also why i cant know things

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2008-01-09

Only one full of words without knowledge, will claim they will not share that knowledge. One can not share what one does not have.

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master-of-chaos (author)Goodhart2008-01-20

True, very true but some of my previous posts can be seen as immature, so i don't blame him for that but what i do blame him for is feeling he had the right to judge a persons character from an internet post.

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2008-01-21

Indeed. The very act of "disconnected" and uninformed judgment is worse then the already skewed inability to judge when up close and personal (this applies to every one of us). One can not, even if they do "walk in your moccasins for a mile", judge what another will do nor where another will go with any information given to another. If he hasn't the inner strength and self confidence to teach in a manner that will guide towards proper use of the information, he is either no teacher, or maybe as asserted before, he doesn't know what he claims to. A mind that claims to be superior, is already inferior.

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Soraki (author)Goodhart2008-01-26

If only we lived in a perfect world where your ideologies might exist as reality. If you cannot make a judgement on a situation then you stand like a deer in the headlights. It's called assertion- I assert my right to choose onto whome I pass my knowledge. I'm not here to tell everyone but I'm here to tell someone... should they meet my criteria. You speak of not passing judgement on others and yet you've passed judgement that I'm not fit to judge you. Even your quote "A mind that claims superiority..." reeks of hypocracy.

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Goodhart (author)Soraki2008-01-27

Ideologies are goals, not situations. One strives to improve, move forward, DANCE ! or else we are dying, as even a plant dies if it has no growth.

You speak of not passing judgment on others and yet you've passed judgment that I'm not fit to judge you.

That was not my judgment, it was yours, think about it. :-) And BTW, I would be the last to claim to be superior, levels of life are not above or below others, they are simply different. Shalom havar.

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Soraki (author)Goodhart2008-02-11

It is your belief that one cannot judge another accurately or fairly. "One can not, even if they do "walk in your moccasins for a mile", judge what another will do nor where another will go with any information given to another". No matter how unfair it is, the fact remains that one can be judged accurately based on both information given and information retained. Shalom is a great concept, but again, it has not strolled out of peoples minds and into the streets... as with many many other ideaologies. I agree, we should strive to better ourselves... I guess we've come to the point where we conclude that yours and my ideas of improvement vary greatly.

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Goodhart (author)Soraki2008-02-11

No matter how unfair it is, the fact remains that one can be judged accurately based on both information given and information retained.

Is both illogical and self-contradictory. If it is unfair, it is inaccurate and useless.

I agree, we should strive to better ourselves... I guess we've come to the point where we conclude that yours and my ideas of improvement vary greatly.

Indeed. I believe in growth, learning, improvement, but not just of myself, of all around me that I can effect, thus making things even better for myself in end also.

I have learned a lot of thing in the past 50+ years that I have been cognizant, and one of them is that total rejection anything outright only encourages stagnation .

PS: Shalom havar = wishes peace to a havar or friend.

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bushwhacker! (author)Goodhart2008-04-26

Hey! Cool! I speak Hebrew too! Mah Shlomcha/shlomech? Aifo Ottah/Ott Gar/Garra?

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Goodhart (author)bushwhacker!2008-04-26

I have been studying a little "Biblical Hebrew" but am not up to "conversational level" yet :-) I have suffered from the shrinking and blurring of the small text in my teaching manual (eyesight going), so it has been difficult lately.

Mah Shlomcha/shlomech?

BTW: I am well, or as well as I can be :-) Ma nishma?

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bushwhacker! (author)Goodhart2008-04-27

Not a whole lot. Just chillin for the past couple days. You know? Aipho attah gar?

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Goodhart (author)bushwhacker!2008-04-27

I don't recognize that phrase right off, but if you are asking where I am (from) it is Pennsylvania (USA)

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Soraki (author)Goodhart2008-02-22

I disagree. The fact that something is not fair to you makes it overtly fair for someone else. The animals we eat as a general population are not treated fairly but the meat we gain is often of great value to us. It's one-sided, it's not fair, but it's not useless either. Additionally, being over 50, doesn't mean anything other than the fact that you've lived for 50 or more years. Age is not a measure of insight. I agree however that total rejection only encourages stagnation. I have military friends who speak the vast majority of the time in hebrew, so I get what you mean. I just happen to think the concept is, in the current climate, a waste of energy.

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Goodhart (author)Soraki2008-02-23

The animals we eat as a general population are not treated fairly but the meat
we gain is often of great value to us. It's one-sided, it's not fair, but it's not useless either.

So, what we gain from the eating of meat; i.e. heart, and other vital organ problems, cholesterol problems, and etc. are a benefit of some kind. . .

Additionally, being over 50, doesn't mean anything

Actually, I didn't say it did, I made specific reference to the "experience" of 50 years, not just the length of time. I have had some opportunity to see some really strange creatures in Australia, and let me tell you, Humans still beat them all for total weirdness.

I just happen to think the concept is, in the current climate, a waste of energy.

There is a real difference then between us: I don't see anything as a waste of any kind unless we do not learn from it; thus allowing it to be a waste.

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Soraki (author)Goodhart2008-02-23

First point- The protein and fat we gain from animals is of great benefit. Man's gluttony will account for the heart disease and disorders caused to other organs. I take it you don't know alot about nutrition. Second point- My comments on age vs maturity are aimed exactly at your point of experience. Your veiw is narrow eventhough you are physically beginning to slowly rot away... I have lived in australia for some time and my take on the wildlife is that they are extremely well adapted- not weird... as with people. Third point- what do you learn from the act of breathing, just inhaling and exhaling... your body does it without concious thought. The act itself doesnt teach you unless it doesnt occur... is that a waste? I suspect you are making points against my points for the sake of making words appear under your pseudo identity... to what end I am unsure... maybe it's to prevent yourself from disappearing from the face of the planet altogether.

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Goodhart (author)Soraki2008-02-24

First point- The protein and fat we gain from animals is of great benefit.

yes, many of them are known carcinogens.

Second point- ... Your veiw is narrow

*chuckle* May I congratulate you on being the very first person to ever say THAT to me LOL Most tell me I tend to be overly open minded, open to sharing, open to giving before receiving..... *shrug* but, it is your view point after all. . .

I have lived in Australia for some time and my take on the wildlife is that they are extremely well adapted- not weird... as with people.

No offense intended mate, weird is what they are to one whom has never experienced them up close and personal-like. That is just a different point of reference. Many of them are quite 'cute' too ;-) Weird doesn't have a negative connotation with me: weird is simply out of the ordinary.

Third point- what do you learn from the act of breathing, just inhaling and exhaling... your body does it without concious thought. The act itself doesnt teach you unless it doesnt occur... is that a waste?

??? But, that was what I was saying though, that nothing is wasted. I quoted your statement about "waste" and then said my opinion was that nothing is wasted, especially if we learn from it. *shrug*

I suspect you are making points against my points for the sake of making words appear under your pseudo identity...

No. I was, at first, intrigued thinking I could get into a conversation about a few things. I am sorry to have bothered you...

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Soraki (author)Goodhart2008-03-30

I think you acheived what you set out to acheive then, if you're being honest with the board and yourself. The conversation has been lengthy and passionate at times. What more could you ask for? I obviously don't agree with some of the things you say and I question your motives for saying them... it doesn't mean you've bothered me or that I hold any hostility toward you... infact I appreciate your resolve. I still think you are at many times hypocritical, but that is definitely 'no skin of my nose'. Shame on me... another cliche...

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Goodhart (author)Soraki2008-03-30

hypocrisy comes in many forms with many faces: sometimes in the dark of night, but sometimes in the light of day also. As Andre Gide once said: "The true hypocrite is the one who ceases to perceive his deception, the one who lies with sincerity."

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Soraki (author)Goodhart2008-04-13

I wouldn't have thought that analysis totally correct. I understand the connection but I think the hammer has only just skimmed the head of the nail. In my option, that is a description of an emotionally crippled mind, not so much a hypocrite. I get the point though.

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Goodhart (author)Soraki2008-04-13

Not that I was pointing fingers, understand. I quoted that more as warning for both others and as a reminder for myself. I nearly always include myself in statements like that, as I am just as human as anyone else (from what I can determine anyways LOL).

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master-of-chaos (author)Goodhart2008-01-21

Extremely true. By the way, please do not take offense to this, do you happen to be a bus driver, just because the way you speak and the amount of information you have retained in your years reminds be absolutely of someone who i used to know. He was a bus driver at my high school, but he had done many dozens of jobs in the past so he had a large amount of information in every field except contemporary electronic, such as microprocessing computers. I know it may be a stretch to ask if you are him but we became good friends and had many long enjoyable discussions on a variety different subjects and i just needed to know.

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2008-01-21

:-) No offense taken, and no, that is one job I have not held, although I did drive a small truck with a 20 ft bed for a tire company for a year. Worked my way from College cafeteria dish washer, through food prep, a smoke house / slaughter house, with chickens, paints and solvent recovery, data entry, computer operator, systems operator; to name a few. If I am not eating, sleeping or working (or the occasional chess game), I am generally reading. I do need to get out more though, get a little exercise so I don't become as wide as I am tall ;-) It is already too much of a struggle to reach my feet to put on socks :-)

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master-of-chaos (author)Goodhart2008-01-21

ah sound much like my days, except i also have a group of people who i have discussions, that incidentally are allot like this thread, with every day. A mechanic, a meditater, a hacker of sorts, a chemist, a factofileophiliack (someone who does to random facts what dragons do to gold, hoard it), and a literature expert our ranks are rather diverse.

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2008-01-21

Yeah, I am pretty isolated because of my wife's condition and her not wanting me to be far from home for any length of time.

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Goodhart (author)master-of-chaos2008-01-21

I am still going to try to arrange to get some "me" time somehow though. Whether I have to go to HOPE, or to one of the local MakeFaires (when they are "local", which normally still means a bit of a drive)

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Soraki (author)Goodhart2008-01-09

To paraphrase, I said I would share the knowledge I have with those I deem suitable. This is my perogative. I am not here to debate whether or not I know what I know... Some people are misguided, they beleive that throwing their scepticism around makes them appear intellegent. Upfront scepticism, without making an effort to be informed is a manifestation of fear. Fear that stems from insecurity. I hope one day you can understand that we are not competitors.

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Goodhart (author)Soraki2008-01-09

Fear that stems from insecurity. I hope one day you can understand that we are not competitors.

Fear appears to be the reasoning behind the reasoning not to share what is supposedly known. The kind of hackers creed would be to share with all, but warn to use the info for the common good.
It is each "instructer's" obligation to share and not retain. Those that do not share are merely retainers (sometimes mere containers).

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Soraki (author)Goodhart2008-02-22

Retention is not always the wrong action... perhaps in philosophy that is not a neat statement, but reality is a different kettle of fish.

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