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Starting a country...? Answered

Okay, basic rundown: I've always wanted to start a country, and have gone from varying degrees of seriousness on the topic (from declaring my bedroom the kingdom of shirts to writing a constitution for Travisland [seriously]) Now, obviously there are several issues as to the actual seceding process. I'm in Canada, and I am currently researching how Canada gradually broke off from England, and I am planning to apply the same concept. Does anyone want to help with the research of building a constitution, border laws, etc? Assuming it actually works, you will get a passport, likely a government position (or something to that degree) and will be able to come and go from the country at any time (although if it does work we legally need permanent residences). Is anyone interested, even if all we get out of this is some education?

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Urgh... we need more members :\

I always thought of buying, or creating an island and declaring sovereignty. You'd have to be fairly self sufficient though as you could easily be blockaded and sanctioned. Even if you weren't attacked by foreign invaders, they could still starve you out, if they didn't like having you as a neighbor.

I believe it's called the "tongue in cheek" effect. At the moment my territory consists of a bedroom. Alternatively to being nice, you could just buy a lot of chain guns.

I'll provide military man-power in an "advisory only" role. But, I am willing to run blockades (seriously, I've done it before!!!).

Hmmm... How do graham crackers sound as compensation?

You interested in providing the military manpower I'll need skunk? :)

writing a constitution for Travisland

The only advice I have at the moment is to try to keep jokesters from calling it Travestyland
;-)
Pet names tend to stick :-)

Haha, I called it that because my friend and me were having a debate about politics, and she said if I was so pissed then I could just go start my own country and live in "Travisland". I recruited no less than 20 people for it.

Have a look at Danny Wallace's website - he declared his apartment an independent state by simply writing to the Prime Minister, and saying that if he didn't reply then Danny would assume it was OK.

There's a step-by-step guide here, including legal precedents.

You should also have a look at ''micronations'' - it turns out that there is quite a movement out there.

If you need any help, drop me a PM.

Ha, I'm also aware of Danny's site. It's a little less serious than I was hoping for (though impressive) as I'm looking for something more physical rather than internet based. Don't suppose you'd be interested in it Kite?

The original location of his kingdom was physical - it was his own flat. I'd be up for a virtual nation (Instructablainia?), but I can't help you establish your own physical nation as we live too far apart. Paperwork, though (constitutions, laws and what-not) I'd be willing to have a stab at.

Yeah that's basically the kind of help I'd need. I'm planning to make it a democratic dictatorship, if that makes sense, similar to Danny's.

There are a bunch of micronations listed on wikipedia - have a look to see if there are any ~~ideas to pinch~~ inspirations there.

Well see I think I already got a lot of ideas from Danny going to all those other areas (Christiania in particular), the quote went something like this: "You can't kick people out of Christiania, because that guy he doesn't have anything except Christiania" which really got to me. As much as I did enjoy how cooperative everyone in Celebration (the more rule orientated community) was, I happen to know that strict attitude laws are going to be a nuisance. How does this sound for economic ideas: (at the moment my territory will consist of my bedroom, which has a window) I start seeds in my room on the window sill, export them to Canada, and import seeds to do it all over again? Or, when and if we get more permanent territory, designate drug pits, where foreigners can pay to smoke marijuana, and since they're out of their own federal jurisdiction, they can't be charged? :) Perhaps a bit... using, of people, but it would generate income nonetheless.

Watch family guy's "Petoria" episode. I know its stupid to base advise off a TV show, but its all I got.

Hahaha, I've seen that one, it's amazing. But he did that with government support.

There was some guy in Florida that started his own country... I think that it would be AWESOME!

Thank you Lemonie, I am aware of Sealand and have researched it thoroughly. I am not currently interested in Sealand as I am more of an agriculturist.