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I've just seen a genuinely worrying question - "How to be a Goth Lolita"

That question causes some genuinely disturbing images...

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Hymn (author)2012-02-16

Yes, well, I am a Lolita and I think you're all looking at our lifestyle a bit too deeply.
Frankly, I resent the generalization that we are all 'over-sexed little girls', that we are somehow 'vampires', have mental issues or are overtly creepy. The truth is that we all share a love of Victorian fashion, frills, and dressing up.

Despite what you see on the outside, we're just like anyone else.

Actually, I find it comical that the masses have suddenly identified us as a 'people' worth stereotyping. Then again, I suppose the 'normals' will always find a reason to discriminate, even if it's only a difference of fashion sense.

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Kiteman (author)Hymn2012-02-16

If you object to the generalisation, you obviously do not know where the title you claim for yourself actually came from.  By definition, "a Lolita" is an over-sexualised young girl.

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Hymn (author)Kiteman2012-02-16

Your statement is true, assuming you incorrectly pulled your definition from a reference to the 1950's Russian novel, "Lolita".

We are talking about the Japanese fashion, are we not? You know, the subculture that came about because of a love of the Victorian and Rococo Era?

The name 'Lolita' was not given to us as a reference to the book. It's actually a wasei-eigo (or deriving from the female given name), 'Lolita' relating back to Japan's relations to Portugal. Early Japanese Lolitas thought it the name meant 'cute' in Portuguese and therefore adopted the name.

There are plenty of people who wish we were more like the Lolita of the famous novel, but those people can get a therapist.

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Hymn (author)Hymn2012-02-16

Hold on a moment, you're comment appears to have a link.
I must have missed it. Let's see, it appears to be a link too ....

Ah, I see. Well, that about sums up how much most people actually know about the origins of Japanese fashion. Particularly Lolita.

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Kiteman (author)Hymn2012-02-16

If you don't like being subject to the assumptions that go along with the title, don't use the title.

Call yourself "Gothic Rococo" instead, or, "Oriental Steampunk", anything that more accurately reflects the style you express.

But as long as you use the term "Lolita" in the English-speaking parts of the world, you will be burdened with all the associations as well.

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Hymn (author)Kiteman2012-02-16

Understood. Unfortunately I did not create 'Lolita', so I do not get to rename it. Also, the English-speaking world did not come up with the fashion - a very important point since Japanese pop culture titled the style without considering the book.

Also, let's be honest, even if 'Lolita' was called something else, people would still look at us and attempt to tie our fashion and way of life with something negative.

Even people who live life as a genteel Steampunk follower are stereotyped as 'weird', 'mad', "snobbish" or 'creepy'. Unfortunately, in the case of the Lolita, we have a book, which has nothing to do with us, that bears the same name as our style. It's really too bad.

The terms 'Oriental Steampunk' and 'Gothic Rococo' do exist, but the only apply to steampunk and rococo followers. That's not to say we don't have similar subdivision to our style. They're called Wa-Lolita, Punk-Lolita, Goth-Lolita and Sweet-Lolita. No one cared to come up with a different name. Path of least resistance and all that.

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monsterlego (author)2011-12-26

Easy, wear dark clothes, bite peoples necks. (very disturbing)

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kelseymh (author)monsterlego2012-01-04

Nope. Not even close. You kids really need to learn how to research a topic.

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iproberry1 (author)kelseymh2012-01-08

if you research everything you answer on your brain will fill up to fast....JKS

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kelseymh (author)iproberry12012-01-08

I think that depends on how big your brain is....

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iproberry1 (author)kelseymh2012-01-13

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monsterlego (author)kelseymh2012-01-04

I tried all i can say is...

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monsterlego (author)kelseymh2012-01-05

Yeah those were just plain Lolitas, were talking GOTH lolitas.

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iproberry1 (author)monsterlego2012-01-04

me too and all I said was:

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monsterlego (author)kelseymh2012-01-04

This is a topic I'd rather not. :P

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kelseymh (author)monsterlego2012-01-04

Not nearly as bad as you imagine. Think "Victorian" rather than "Vampire."

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iproberry1 (author)2012-01-07

this has been posted 3 years ago!

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Kiteman (author)iproberry12012-01-07

You only posted on this topic to tell us when the topic was posted?

Why??

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Lithium Rain (author)Kiteman2012-01-08

Genuine lols were had. :D

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iproberry1 (author)Kiteman2012-01-07

well you already had about 100 answers on this topic....right and it's just something i wrote

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iproberry1 (author)Kiteman2012-01-07

Goth Lolita is a style (costume kind of thing) isn't it?

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Firebert010 (author)2008-07-17

At my highschool we have one or two of them. They really are genuinely scary. Most usually wear those 6" platform shoes and have these craft foam-esque straps in their dyed hair. Don't forget the neon lipstick and black eye shadow. Creepers...

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Firebert010 (author)Firebert0102008-07-17

Just found this pic, thought it was relevant.

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ilpug (author)Firebert0102012-01-05

Reminds me of the girl from Eisenfunk.

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bumpus (author)Firebert0102008-08-17

"Lets see here..." "Milk, Eggs, Cheese..."

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beado4ever (author)bumpus2009-01-16

..... and, let me see, oh yes, A MIRROR!!!

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Goodhart (author)beado4ever2009-01-16

make that a METAL mirror (so it doesn't explode with use :-)

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Goodhart (author)Firebert0102009-01-16

This is nearly as scary as the M-113 creature, of Star Trek fame.

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Grey_Wolfe (author)Firebert0102008-07-19

What the...??? Where I come from, that's called anime con, not Goth. I thought Goth was more of the black make-up and cloths with a neo-victorian (not steampunk) vibe. Or at least tranch coats, for those less funded. Or in the case of an old high school buddy, black pleather and make up like kiss. Nice guy, a little wierd though. lol

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Grey_Wolfe (author)Grey_Wolfe2008-07-19

OK, just check out a couple of things, and I guess that kind of fits into the modern (?) definition of lolita style. But I still don't think it's goth. When I was gorwing up, lolita meant an over-sexed under-aged girl. What do I know though?

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kelseymh (author)Grey_Wolfe2008-11-18

[ Very, very late followup ... blame "knexsuperbuilderfreak" for bumping the topic... ]

In Western society, that is what "lolita" usual refers to, from the Nabokov novel.

However, "Lolita style" and "goth Lolita" derive from modern Japanese pop culture. They are women who dress in excessive and stereotyped Victorian style.

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Ah, Nabokov, brilliant Lepidopterist. Specialized in Blues, I believe.

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memyselfand1 (author)Firebert0102009-01-31

Oh yeah i think we have one in our class, and almost certainly another six or so in the rest of yr 8. They're terrifying!

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Doctor What (author)2008-08-16

They're awesome looking! What's wrong with them?

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Rishnai (author)Doctor What2008-08-16

The fact that they're over-sexed under-age girls. Remember the scene with Evey and the Priest from V for Vendetta? That's why it's creepy.

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ilpug (author)Rishnai2012-01-05

I think Tetranitrate calls them "prostitots."

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