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Hello ! So, here is a series of pictures that my brother took about two weeks ago (2007/08/29, at 23:00 french local time). He was going to sleep in his van when he saw a weird blinking/moving light at the horizon. He put his digitalcamera (Fujifilm Finepix S5600) on his tripod, quickly configured it, extended the zoom to the maximum (optical + digital zoom) and took two series of photos with the burst mode. Then, he tried to quickly reconfigure his camera and to take one more manualy. Facts : His tripod seems quite stable : stars don't move from a picture to an other. As we can see thanks to the last picture (a photo of an other part of the sky took with the same parameters), the stars of the two series seems not to be "dead" pixels of the CCD sensor. Known parameters : ISO 400 shutter speed : 1/2.5s. He says he doesn't know what it is. With my other brother, we tried to find an explanation, but so far, we failed. What do you think about this "UFO" ??

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chooseausername (author)2007-09-17

OK, here is an update :

My brother tried to reproduce this weird lighting thing and he failed.

Though, he found that the white dots in pic1 to 7 are actually "noise" from the CCD sensor, not stars.

Despite he failed to reproduce the lighting thing, we both agreed the possibility that the light is simply a reflect over the window of the van, and/or a lens flare ... and that he failed to photograph the light he saw.

=o)

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. Well, I guess we still don't have proof of UFOs, but it was an interesting exercise. I've been pleasantly surprised that it hasn't devolved into a fight over whether UFOs/LGM exist.

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Are you trying to say that little green men don't exist! I have genuine photographic evidence! You, you, ...DISBELIEVER! Pat. Pending

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uguy (author)Patrick Pending2007-09-17

Please show this evidence!!

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Here's a spooky link between the two LGM

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Pat Pending, you've found the proof of a conspiracy ! This theme park is a colony ! The invasion has already started ! :'-((

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. hmmmmmmmm. I wonder if OJ is somehow involved in all this.

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No OJ is definitely a BBM, although sometimes OJ is orange! MJ is seen above in his natural colour. You will no doubt be aware that he has assumed a whole range of colours over the years.

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. Yikes! If that don't give ya nightmares, I don't know what will.

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uguy (author)NachoMahma2007-09-17

My apologies, I am now a beleiver!!!!!

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Goodhart (author)NachoMahma2007-09-17

I know there are UFO's (well, temporarily unidentified anyways), since one hit me in the head once...but I later identified it as a baseball.

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Danny (author)2007-09-12

how long between pic 7 and pic 8?

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chooseausername (author)Danny2007-09-13

According to the EXIF data (provided below) about 2 minutes. But they are not of the same part of the sky. Pic #8 was just a test to verify if the "stars" displayed on the others pics were actually stars and not "static noise" on the sensor ....

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Patrick Pending (author)2007-09-11

Select picture 6, turn head to side (right). I can see letters and numbers (possibly - IS 75). The dome bit on the top looks like a Fuji power switch. Could this be the reflection of the camera in the window of the van? Cheers, Pat. Pending

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. Neat! If you're talking about the one with the object at the top of the frame, I see a lower case e (left edge of e at top edge of frame), a space (or maybe a washed out spot), and the numeral 3 (with a flat top). I can't tell if they are actually there, but that's what I see. Had to look at it for a few seconds to see anything at all.

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I can provide the original sized pictures if you're interrested about.

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. Sure. If they are too big to post in the forum, just send them to the server at "bollen.us" and use the account name "chooseausername". Sorry for the obfuscation, but I hate SPAM. And they keep getting better at gleaning addresses - I bet I get a least three msgs addressed to "server" + a-in-a-circle symbol + "bollen.us" (middle of second sentence).

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I've uploaded them on my webspace :-)

http://www.terminajones.com/photo_ufo/

They are about 900kB each.

Even at their original size, because of the digital zoom, they are very blurry ...
They contains all the EXIF informations stored into them though.

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. I can't see anything different with the bigger pics. I don't see anything that is meaningful in any of them. I believe he saw something strange, but, unfortunately, his equipment wasn't up to the task of recording it accurately. :(

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lemonie (author)Patrick Pending2007-09-11

Hmm, I see the 75, but we're told that someone saw this thing, which would discount that explanation.

L

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chooseausername (author)lemonie2007-09-12

Yes, he says he saw something "moving and blinking far away at the horizon". To his eyes, it was more like a tiny dot. So, it possible that what appear on the photo is not actually the same thing he saw. As stated by Gmoon, the given parameters of the camera seems not correct to photograph stars ... So, maybe he saw something weird, and he photographied a reflection ................. lol

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gmoon (author)chooseausername2007-09-12

Nice catch, PP.

I don't suppose it was raining (or had been) when the photos were taken? Water drops can act as mini-lenses (on the camera lens or a window), and since they are asymmetrical (and dynamic) create really strange shapes..

Also, if the camera lens was fitted with a UV or skylight filter--many people add this to lenses simply to protect the optics. In a 'lens flare' situation the light bounces around the inside of the lens--why there are often multiple artifacts (due to the fact that most lenses have multiple glass elements.) It could also bounce from the side of the lens (writing) to the inside of a filter and then into the lens proper...
(Re: multiple flares: there is a small additional flare at the bottom left of image 7.)

As has been said--lots of reflective surfaces in a vehicle, too. Surfaces with curvatures can reflect light but also can focus it (by reflection, not refraction) in weird ways...

Non linear motion? Just watch the light/shadow play in a dark room from car headlights...Especially if there's a curve in the road nearby or just turning into driveways, etc.

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chooseausername (author)gmoon2007-09-12

It was not raining. And he don't have any filter. I thought about a car headlights too but he said there was no circulation around him when he saw that. We will probably know more tomorrow when he will have tried to reproduce those effects ...

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This explanation seems plausible to me too. Actually, I was also thinking about a reflection over the window of the van ... I'll ask him more info as soon as he will be back ... (that's hard to quiz him ... he's always journeying ...)

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Yeah, I figured that it could be a reflection, but if you're going to setup a tripod, I think you'd open it up.

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killerk2 (author)2007-09-11

in pic 4 you can see an almost seethrough hull of a hover/space craft

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lemonie (author)killerk22007-09-11

That's in your mind dude, have you ever seen a hover/space craft? L

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killerk2 (author)lemonie2007-09-12
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gyromild (author)2007-09-11

Thanks man! Really appreciate it that you took the trouble.. I won't bother myself figuring what it is.. It supposed to be unidentifiable in some ways, to be an Unidentified Flying Object :-) Again, this is probably just another case of some drunk ETs who got lost on their way back from some party.. Whatever that thing is, thanks for sharing..

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KentsOkay (author)gyromild2007-09-12

I wonder what et's drink, and if they were drunk, wouldn't they have dumped there booze prior to zooming into hyper space? why don't we find et Budweiser cans everywhere?

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gyromild (author)KentsOkay2007-09-12

Remember Mr Fusion on the flying DeLorean.. :-)

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Goodhart (author)KentsOkay2007-09-12

they recycle them as either food or building materials LOL

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Goodhart (author)Goodhart2007-09-12

I didn't mean "food" (although that is a possibility), I meant "fuel" shaking head, note to self; try not to post here before a meal...

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KentsOkay (author)2007-09-12

I have no clue what this is, but I can tell you it's not a helicopter. I live in the flight paths of ABIA and Fort Hood, aircraft are going over 24/7.

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chooseausername (author)2007-09-12

Well, I've just quizzed him again and presented him all of your plausible theories :-) We came to agree that it is highly possible that the 4 first pictures are a reflect (lens flare or even something on the window of his van ...) and that "stars" may be static noise on the CCD sensor. I convinced him to try to reproduce those effect in the same/similar conditions to see if this happens again. He will try this night. He also does not exclude the possibility that he failed to actually photograph the weird light he saw ....... about which he still have no clue about what it was. So, maybe he actually saw an alien space-ship and failed to photograph it lol

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Kiteman (author)2007-09-11

Looking at pics 1-4, I assume they are at greater and greater stages of magnification? Notice how it seems to become closer and closer to a three-sided figure? It's a zoom-artefact, caused by the internal goings-on of modern digital optics. It was explained to me once, but I've forgotten the details. Basically, what you're looking at is the inside of the zoom system illuminated by whatever point-source of light was being focussed upon.

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gmoon (author)Kiteman2007-09-11

I'm with Kiteman--photo 4 shows a typical lens flare artifact. The shape (probably 6-sided) is that of the lens aperture, partially 'stopped-down.' This stuff typically shows up when an external light source is shining obliquely on the lens (street light? porch light?) The greater the illumination difference between the framed subject and the flare source, the more you'll notice it. It's too bad we don't know a bit more about the exposure (what aperture, partcularly..) Re: dead pixels--no, but I expect you're viewing CCD noise, rather than stars. I doubt you'd get a usable star image at 1/2.5 sec @ ISO 400--even with the lens wide open.

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chooseausername (author)gmoon2007-09-11

Maybe I wrongly read the parameters (the camcorder keeps information about the parameters of each pictures. For these pictures, the camcorder says 2.5 for the shutter speed, but my brother says it's 2.5 as 2.5 pictures per seconds (burst mode) and when he shown me how fast is the burst mode he used, I agreed it was 1/2.5) ... I'll tell him to try again to take a picture of stars with this same parameters.

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gmoon (author)chooseausername2007-09-11

Well, if you're looking at 2.5 seconds (certainly possible with a decent camera), and not 1/2.5 then some stars might be forming an image. Again, I don't know what lens and aperture was used.

There are cheap, fast 50mm lenses (I've got a F1.4), and wide open you might get something... But you said a zoom lens, and most consumer zooms start at F4.0 and get slower (F5.6 or worse) as you zoom out (variable aperture zoom.)

There are lots of jpeg artifacts in these images, too--it's pretty tough to tell much from 'em. Noise is a serious problem with digital cameras @ long exposures--and it isn't always uniform noise. The ccd is an analog<->digital interface, designed to record analog signals. Anything, heat, moving the camera, etc. will change the noise pattern. Only funky pixels show consistently...

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chooseausername (author)gmoon2007-09-11

I'm not very knowledgeable with cameras ...

If I remember correctly, on the right side of the "2.5", there was a F8, or a F4 ...

I can't ask him because he's gone again ... If he come back tommorrow, and if he did not formated his XDcard, I will ask him more about all of that ...

Here is a link that show his camera :
http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/digital/cameras/s5600/index.php?&flash=9

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gmoon (author)chooseausername2007-09-11

Looks like a fun camera. From the link: Max (slowest) shutter speed: 15 sec. Largest aperture: F3.2 - F3.5 (depends on the current zoom) Sorry to doubt; guess I'm a bit of a skeptic. Last time I photographed stars, the exposure was 20-30 seconds. But it's been so long, I don't recall the aperture... (and I think a good percentage of the image was noise. Still used as a background pshop layer by desaturating and adding a blue hue--couldn't differentiate between noise and stars.)

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chooseausername (author)gmoon2007-09-12

I've found that the original pictures contains EXIF data : --- pic 1 --- Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S5600 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S5600 Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:08:29 10:58:04 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 25/10 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Manual control ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:08:29 10:58:04 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:08:29 10:58:04 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 2 seconds ApertureValue - F 4.00 BrightnessValue - -4.29 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.25 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 63.00 mm FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2592 ExifImageHeight - 1944 InteroperabilityOffset - 1158 FocalPlaneXResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneYResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Custom process ExposureMode - Manual WhiteBalance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - FINE Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - Off Focus mode - Auto Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Manual exposure Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - Yes Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good) --- pic 2 --- Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S5600 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S5600 Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:08:29 10:59:21 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 25/10 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Manual control ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:08:29 10:59:21 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:08:29 10:59:21 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 2 seconds ApertureValue - F 4.00 BrightnessValue - -4.64 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.25 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 63.00 mm FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2592 ExifImageHeight - 1944 InteroperabilityOffset - 1158 FocalPlaneXResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneYResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Custom process ExposureMode - Manual WhiteBalance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - FINE Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - Off Focus mode - Manual Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Manual exposure Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - Yes Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good) --- pic 3 --- Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S5600 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S5600 Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:08:29 10:59:21 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 25/10 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Manual control ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:08:29 10:59:21 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:08:29 10:59:21 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 2 seconds ApertureValue - F 4.00 BrightnessValue - -4.64 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.25 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 63.00 mm FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2592 ExifImageHeight - 1944 InteroperabilityOffset - 1158 FocalPlaneXResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneYResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Custom process ExposureMode - Manual WhiteBalance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - FINE Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - Off Focus mode - Manual Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Manual exposure Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - Yes Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good) --- pic 4 --- Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S5600 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S5600 Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:08:29 10:59:48 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 25/10 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Manual control ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:08:29 10:59:48 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:08:29 10:59:48 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 2 seconds ApertureValue - F 4.00 BrightnessValue - -6.04 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.25 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 63.00 mm FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2592 ExifImageHeight - 1944 InteroperabilityOffset - 1158 FocalPlaneXResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneYResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Custom process ExposureMode - Manual WhiteBalance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - FINE Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - Off Focus mode - Manual Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Manual exposure Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - Yes Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good) --- pic 5 --- Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S5600 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S5600 Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:08:29 11:01:10 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 25/10 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Manual control ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:08:29 11:01:10 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:08:29 11:01:10 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 2 seconds ApertureValue - F 4.00 BrightnessValue - -4.26 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.25 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 63.00 mm FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2592 ExifImageHeight - 1944 InteroperabilityOffset - 1158 FocalPlaneXResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneYResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Custom process ExposureMode - Manual WhiteBalance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - FINE Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - Off Focus mode - Manual Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Manual exposure Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - Yes Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good) --- pic 6 --- Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S5600 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S5600 Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:08:29 11:01:25 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 25/10 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Manual control ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:08:29 11:01:25 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:08:29 11:01:25 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 2 seconds ApertureValue - F 4.00 BrightnessValue - -3.95 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.25 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 63.00 mm FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2592 ExifImageHeight - 1944 InteroperabilityOffset - 1158 FocalPlaneXResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneYResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Custom process ExposureMode - Manual WhiteBalance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - FINE Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - Off Focus mode - Manual Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Manual exposure Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - Yes Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good) --- pic 7 --- Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S5600 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S5600 Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:08:29 11:01:44 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 25/10 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Manual control ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:08:29 11:01:44 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:08:29 11:01:44 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 2 seconds ApertureValue - F 4.00 BrightnessValue - -3.61 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.25 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 63.00 mm FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2592 ExifImageHeight - 1944 InteroperabilityOffset - 1158 FocalPlaneXResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneYResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Custom process ExposureMode - Manual WhiteBalance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - FINE Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - Off Focus mode - Manual Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Manual exposure Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - Yes Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good) --- pic 8 --- Make - FUJIFILM Model - FinePix S5600 Orientation - Top left XResolution - 72 YResolution - 72 ResolutionUnit - Inch Software - Digital Camera FinePix S5600 Ver1.00 DateTime - 2007:08:29 11:03:24 YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited Copyright - ExifOffset - 294 ExposureTime - 150/10 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Manual control ISOSpeedRatings - 400 ExifVersion - 220 DateTimeOriginal - 2007:08:29 11:03:24 DateTimeDigitized - 2007:08:29 11:03:24 ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4.00 (bits/pixel) ShutterSpeedValue - 16 seconds ApertureValue - F 4.00 BrightnessValue - -7.61 ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 MaxApertureValue - F 3.25 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Auto Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode FocalLength - 63.00 mm FlashPixVersion - 100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2592 ExifImageHeight - 1944 InteroperabilityOffset - 1158 FocalPlaneXResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneYResolution - 25352 FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Centimeter SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera SceneType - A directly photographed image CustomRendered - Custom process ExposureMode - Manual WhiteBalance - Auto SceneCaptureType - Standard Sharpness - Normal SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown Maker Note (Vendor): - Version - 30333130 Quality - FINE Sharpness - Normal White Balance - Auto Color saturation - Normal Flash Mode - Off Flash Strength - 0.00 Macro - Off Focus mode - Manual Slow Sync. - Off Picture Mode - Manual exposure Unknown - 1 Sequence mode - Off Unknown - 0 Blur warning - Yes Focus warning - No (Focus OK) AE warning - No (AE good)

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Kiteman (author)gmoon2007-09-11

Lens flare

That's the phrase I was groping for!

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zachninme (author)Kiteman2007-09-11

Yeah, I thought that too, but since the person actually saw it...

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chooseausername (author)Kiteman2007-09-11

Looking at pics 1-4, I assume they are at greater and greater stages of magnification?

According to what he told me, all the pics use the same parameters, including magnification from the digital zoom (optical and digital zoom both at maximum).
The object he wanted to photograph was very far away, at the horizon.

pics 1-3 are from the first series (he pressed once, and the camera took 3)
pics 4-6 are from the second series.
pics 7 is a single shot he took few seconds after.
pics 8 is a single shot he took few minutes later (using the same parameters) from an other part of the sky.

Basically, what you're looking at is the inside of the zoom system illuminated by whatever point-source of light was being focussed upon.
I'll give him this explanation and will try to convince him to reproduce it (mainly targeting a tiny light-source far away in the dark with opt and digi zoom at max.

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Juklop (author)2007-09-11

Why, it's a weather balloon of course.

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Goodhart (author)Juklop2007-09-11

They all kind of remind me of moss, with maybe some phosphor immediately behind it.

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