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What kind of war weapons would you like to see? Answered

Well I need some ideas. I'm getting rather bored of the "must have" weapons for war. This isn't always the case for some people but yeah I still don't know if you would like certain types of weapons or not. For example, the old generation of handle fed side arms are rather obsolete compared to the new oodammo assault pistols. I wanted to try something different with the BAW by sacrificing the range of a turret, BA, or shelled ammo for simplicity, reliability, and fast reloading. It's one of those weapons that can be mass produced somewhat easily. I still understand the TR pretty much outclasses it though so I'm going to ask you guys first. What kind of weapons are you still interested in seeing and using in war? I'm thinking mostly for indoor or small, casual outdoor wars, nothing super competitive that you plan on taking to some large event though I may be able to make something like that.

For example:
Would you still like a basic assault pistol like weapon? Like a spiff-like weapon with removable magazines and maximized for range. Basically something that could be mass produced for small indoor wars? Could also use my magazine idea further down.
Would you still like a handle fed side arm that had a trigger behind to get more power out of a compact weapon? Maybe a repeating crossbow pistol? That could probably get decent range but still be a compact weapon.
Shelled ammo? I could probably make something like the BAW but with shelled ammo and possibly get more range with the ammo. You could easily make a shell catch. Would that be too much of a hassle compared to just using a bolt or turret?
Side loading magazines? Does that sound good for anything? It kind of follows along the same concept of oodammo pistols where you can quickly reload a fixed magazine with individual rounds or entire clips without needing to worry about multiple magazines. I had an idea for this but didn't know if it would be put to good use in a war weapon.
K'nex flinging RBGs? What would it take for you to use them? I like the semi auto firing capabilities and decent range compared to "true" semi autos. I know you have to load a rubber band for every time you want to fire but then you also have to do that with a normal slingshot but you can only use one set of bands. What if I made one fully auto with controllable fire rate (yes, I have an idea for that though I don't know if it'll work). What if I made some sort of way to speed load rubber bands?
Shotgun- useful at all? Two ideas here. One would be just a basic pistol kind of like my old shotgun pistol but with a multi-chamber shell so you'd have like 5 shots of 8 green rods. I can't build this but maybe a pump action sling that shot like 3 connectors?

Any other ideas? Take into mind my amount of pieces. The UMP and BAW both used about all my yellow connectors and green rods so I'm looking at either pistols or SMG sized weapons possibly without filled stocks. I'm also expecting that you'll build and use it if you request it. I don't really care for blindly thrown suggestions.


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SteenSpinal4LIFE (author)2010-08-09

WHERE CAN I FIND THE ZKAR v3 ?????????????

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~KGB~ (author)2010-05-25

magpul masada, pure quality...

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14r31337 (author)2010-05-22

A full auto less than 1000 pieces, and gets at least 50 feet. No motors. Fires rods and stores up to 25 ammo rods.

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DJ Radio (author)14r313372010-05-22

Good luck getting that....

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14r31337 (author)DJ Radio2010-05-23

I'm just listing what's nearly impossible to make.

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vog115 (author)2010-05-01
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heat-seeker (author)2010-03-11

How about a simple full auto woth some power and portabilty. Like Perfect Duck's one but without the mental piece count. Maby you could do it so it has a interchangeable barrel mag?

Also i would be so happy if you make a RGB full automatic and even more if you base it on a real gun? I had a idea that you could use a p90 because you can put the mech and bands on  magazine so you can change mags and it is full auto.
Heat-seeker begs you for that one ^.

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rec0n (author)2010-04-03
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builder968 (author)2010-04-03

I might try to make a mag fed shotgun with only one pin. That would be EPiC! (lol) Or you could try :)

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DJ Radio (author)builder9682010-04-03

Didn't knexfreek already do this?

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knexguy (author)2010-03-14

I'd like to see something that allows you to dump a mag out of the bottom and then shove a new one in in about 2 seconds.  It wouldn't really need to be too powerful, because this sort of thing would be suited to indoor wars, and a reload speed that quick would be very advantageous.  Mepain's ZKAR V3 is the sort of thing I'm thinking of here.

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TheDunkis (author)knexguy2010-03-14

...It's called my BAW...
Seriously that's the whole point of it. Please tell me you have heard of it. Or was the reload just not quick enough for you? I didn't post it by the way if you didn't hear about it. knexlover did.

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DJ Radio (author)TheDunkis2010-03-15

I kinda prefer the ZKAR v3 better because of the ram pull allowing you to get better ROF.

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knexguy (author)Raikou-san2010-03-15

Look on Mepain's youtube, it has a removable mag.

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Raikou-san (author)knexguy2010-03-15

Sweet. I want one. :o
It looks awesome.

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knexguy (author)Raikou-san2010-03-22

I tried building it, but it kept jamming (I'm quite sure I got the top of the mag wrong).

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DJ Radio (author)Raikou-san2010-03-15

Its actually 5 layer, in order to support the mag.

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TheDunkis (author)DJ Radio2010-03-15

How does that allow a better RoF? Just add a small bolt to any firing pin gun and you can achieve similar results.

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DJ Radio (author)TheDunkis2010-03-15

Better compared to your gun.  It makes it easier to pull the pin back.

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TheDunkis (author)DJ Radio2010-03-15

Lol why is this an assault on my BAW? The BAW is what it is and the ZKAR is what it is. There is no need to compare them as they were made with different ideas in mind. All the same as you could add a removable magazine to the ZKAR, so can I add a bolt handle to the BAW. That doesn't matter though. I'm making a bolt action similar in design to the BAW.

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knexguy (author)TheDunkis2010-03-15

I've been gone for 4 months...

I'll have a look around.

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rec0n (author)2010-03-20

id like to see a removable knex flinging rbg with a controllable ROF. I would never take that apart!

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rec0n (author)rec0n2010-03-20

oh! and make it the best scar ever!

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silentassasin21 (author)2010-03-18

A weapon called a turret rifle they can call it a tr for sort. W w w w Wait a minute thats already been created. Nevermind.

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You all remind me of when the patent office thought they should shut down.

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TheDunkis (author)2010-03-14

I decided to give a BA a try. I'm going to use the side loaded magazine idea to show how it works. I've built the magazine part so far and I think it'll work out pretty well. I decided I'm just going to use the same ammo as my BAW so that it would be really reliable and without the need of an ammo lock. For this reason I don't think it'll compete with the ZKAR very well as it won't have as much magazine capacity or the capability to be muzzle loaded. It's turning out to be pretty piece efficient though. I'll hopefully have it finished tomorrow.

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DJ Radio (author)TheDunkis2010-03-14

Jollex made a gun with a side loading mag before...

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TheDunkis (author)DJ Radio2010-03-14

I don't care...

No actually I won't act like you.

Did he post it? I guess I'll look.  I'd think it'd be a more popular concept if someone made one good enough. Removable magazines are fine and dandy but they take up so many more pieces and extra rubber bands. With these you can just carry a pocketful of ammo and insert them whenever you have the chance.

I tested out my BA so far. I don't have a handle, trigger lever, stock, or bolt handle yet but I tested loading the magazine and then just pushing a rod in through the bolt pin barrel and it loads great. I pushed the trigger parts that are built and it fired good too. It's piece efficient enough that I think I'll actually be able to make a stock for it unlike my previous BAs.

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DJ Radio (author)TheDunkis2010-03-15

He posted it on KI.  It was supposed to be a nerf magstrike replica.  He has a video of it firing lol.

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DJ Radio (author)2010-03-11

For a basic assault pistol like one you describe I would use my Jackal v4.  It fits your bill perfectly.

I don't really care for handle fed sidearms.  Even if the trigger was behind the mag, I have personal reasons for foregoing them.

Shelled ammo- see my comment on shotgun

Side loading mags- What I want to see in this is something like the mag on the halo SMG.  It would probably not really be feasible but it would be cool if it clipped in or out.

I would find pseudo semi autos to be a "one time use, throw away" gun.  We could probably figure out how to adapt a system that holds twice as many bands than are needed to fire an entire clip so we can reload an extra clip faster than normal.  I would want to see that and I actually have an idea for it.

Shotguns- I think we should just use your shells and a gun with your shell ejection mech.  We could load each shell with 2 white rods or something of the appropriate length that is more than 1 rod.

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TheDunkis (author)DJ Radio2010-03-11

Well I'm talking most about a nonoodammo gun that is a little simpler. Oodammo is nice but it's hard to reload a normal gun but it gets complicated when trying to add clips and tilting magazines. I was thinking of just making it pure simplicity.

Understandable. I didn't think many would be.

Mkay

I should have explained it better. I meant it would be a normal magazine extending from the bottom of the gun but one side would be half open so that you could lock down the mag pusher and then insert ammo from the side of it, kind of like a breach loading gun. That way you'd only need the fixed magazine and you could carry around a pocketful of small ammo (I'm thinking like dark grey with green rod) and slip it in whenever. This was what I was thinking you could possibly use in the assault pistol idea for a simple yet easy to use weapon.

Well first off, it can't take much longer to pull back each rubber band than it would to load and spin a turret of equal size and cock the firing pin each time. If you had removable magazines then you'd just have to worry about the rubber bands. I was thinking about how we could make a detachable cog wheel so you could load a full cog with one pull.

Well the idea is to either get good range with a few pieces or get a lot of spread. The ranged shotgun was the pump action sling shot idea. The load o' spread was the shelled idea. If you recall, I made a flat shell that held about 6 green rods (which I improved to 8 with a simple mod) and I later found out that you could just extend the rod size and then add more shells on the same rods with the shells sharing walls so it would turn into one big shell with multiple chambers. I had a rather simple idea on getting it to cycle. A turret could work too but that would be a little more work for a less reliable loading action. I think you could also add a pump to this shotgun too.

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DJ Radio (author)TheDunkis2010-03-13

I don't find clips and tilting magazines complicated at all.  I find my Jackal simple to build and use.  Same with the MeZak.

Oh, so it's a variant of a top loading magazine?  In that case just use something like the STLP or Dutchj's top loader.

I don't thing a removable cog wheel would be that simple to pull off.  You would have to hook the bands up in a way that it doesn't mess up the gun.  And you can't load rounds while the mag is partially empty as easily as a turret.

lol ok.  If I was to use a turreted gun as a shotgun, it would be a knexsayer.

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DJ Radio (author)Raikou-san2010-03-13

Not what I meant.  I meant shooting more than one round for each barrel in the turret.  That makes the knexsayer perfect for what I described.

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hey man i luv the ideas
i am always thinking along the same lines
to be honest w/ u there is a need for new guns
the TR is good but other weapon systems have there place
about the RBG w/ removable mags and quick loading/removable cog i have thought of this and i think ive concluded that removable mags on RBG is not needed
i even thought if u had a removable cog and mag all in one but then y not just carry another gun
so as for the RBG style guns they would be a good dual welding gun that u could carry several of if u wanted
the range would be short to medium but even so the semi auto capabilities give it some close range advantages
and if anything it would make for a great secondary
it would be pretty cool to have 4 of those RBG pistols that shoot knex obviously and run around on the battlefield getting in close for the kills
when u r empty just grab another loaded one
ive always thought that would work well but i never sat down to make one myself really

as for shotguns im working on an idea rite now
it has potencial after test shooting the basic idea i was getting around 50ft w/ 2 size 64 bands
the shotgun idea has a better ROF than my TR and shoots alot more knex in the air at a time
i will tell u more if u want if u message me

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The Jamalam (author)2010-03-12

What happened to our thing?

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TheDunkis (author)The Jamalam2010-03-12

Did you still want to make something? I didn't know if you did or not. I'd rather get the things with the least amount of pieces required down first. I think I'll quickly make my open sided magazine and maybe a basic assault weapon to go with it first off just so I can get that out of the way and maybe let someone else improve it.

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The Jamalam (author)TheDunkis2010-03-12

Ok. I broke my untangle, so i have free pieces. I'll rebuild the shellmag and give it a go.

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~KGB~ (author)2010-03-12

id like to get a really good f2000, im thinking of making one soon, p.s look at my f2000 topic

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Fred the Penguin (author)2010-03-11

hmmm I think we should start making sub machinegun like weapons, guns for short ranges that have crazy rates of fire, my slamfire for example has a rate of fire of about 200 rounds per minute (I havent really tested this thoroughly) but this is an incredible rate of fire for a knex gun.

as for a shotgun I am toying around with the idea of an aa12 like gun using a fixed mag, and an arbg mech.

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