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World Domination for peace ? Answered

Hey, i came up with a great idea and if you wanna support then tell me so. What about if everyone in the world was equal ? everything was free and everyone was rich ? . I was thinking of taking over the world for peace , equality and free things. I know it may seem the funniest and the scammest thing ever but i thing its a great idea. First thing would be that i would destroy all money and then build a big apartment building the size of usa. then everyone can stay in it, it would contain everything you could imagine. Then every day you could go to any place you want for free and when you need something a odder man would come every morning to take your odder and bring things for you from the store house which i am gonna build which gonna have everything you need the size of canada. Sounds cool ehh ? its a great idea. tell me your opinions and ideas.


I think the world should be more unified. If the world was one hole government it would be so much better my opinion not as much foreign problems and hatred. (United nations to the second level!)

I read that story too, it was very strange.

That was my absolute favorite Vonnegut story! Did he write "Welcome to the Monkey Cage" too?

Yes, though it's "Welcome to the Monkey House." That was both a short story and the title of the collection that contained "HB." IIRC, there were several stories along the same line in there, and the theme showed up in "The Sirens of Titan" as well.

Yeah, I read those back in like 7th grade (25 years ago), but rediscovered Vonnegut a couple of years ago. I love his stuff.

fair enough but who will build the flats? and who will make the things that will be free? if there is no money then there is no incentive to work as you can have all the benefits with none of the labor.

also what would you do with the evil people ? sure you can lock them up but you wont be able to find them all.

also the greedy who would take more than their fair share of the freebies.

With the flat idea, although it would make everyone equal some people wouldn't like that and they would want more, with the loss of money to buy more they would take more and kick people out of homes so they could have them.

In theory if the human race was perfect and equal and good, this would work but the fact is, many many humans are far from good people.

Ok, This has been building up in me for a couple of days. I've let it leak out a little, but now I'm going to really spill it. I refuse to be taxed beyond my means to support those who refuse to work. (I will gladly donate to those who are not able to work.) I will maintain my free speech. I will say what I please. I will speak the truth, whenever I choose. I will worship as I see fit. I refuse to be told by any other man/woman how to approach my own realtionship with God. I will decide how my children will be raised, how they will be educated, and how they will behave while living under my roof. I will keep a gun in my home, in my car and on my person, as I see fit. My wife will do the same. I will live in the house I purchase. I will eat and drink what I choose. I will vote, even when I feel like my vote makes little difference. I will buy, sell, invest, trade, aquire, and disperse goods according to my will, as the market allows. I may choose to forego some of my freedoms at certain times for the betterment of my family, my nation, or mankind. I will not compromise the freedoms of my offspring, nor will I allow others to compromise their freedoms. I may kill those who seek to take my freedoms. I will kill those who seek to forcefully take my children's (or wife's) freedoms, or I will die trying.

Thanks! We are blessed to be able to discuss these ideas openly. The internet in many ways is the new "freedom forum".

.Aye, it's pretty good once you lose the spammers, haters, and Youtube commenters.

You're right, It's also the "Moron Forum"!

.ooo..... I just came up with a TERRIBLE play on "freedom forum", I'm sure if you put your mind to it it will come to you...

Well, I came up with two. One is the Free Dumb Forum. The other is probably whaT YOU WERE THINKING!

Our minds jump to terribly ~~twisted~~ similar ideas. Let us hope someone else comes up with the same name...

In our present state of being....one may, because of this:
I may choose to forego some of my freedoms at certain times for the betterment of my family, my nation, or mankind.

need to give up this:
I will live in the house I purchase.

Which really irritates me....

I understand. I probably should have said, I'll live in the quarters I can afford to rent or purchase. I meant it in the sense of "I will not be told where to live". We are all in different circumstances, but if my finances permit, I don't want to be removed from my home due to "imminent domain" or newly established zoning laws.

I didn't mean YOUR statement irritates me, I meant the fact that this happens irritates me. :-)

I don't want to be removed from my home due to "imminent domain" or newly established zoning laws.

Nor do I, but it could happen, whether one rents or has bought the home, and that is what bugs me. They took away the "homesteading laws, and also now, one can't technically own any land/property exclusively even if one gave their life's savings for it......

OH, I gotcha. I did want to clarify the statement though. Right now I own three houses, but I live in one that my parents are helping me purchase. (They get half of my acreage.) I've done my share of renting, and almost did homelessness a couple of times. But imminent domain (Now being used for commercial developement!!!) is one of my great fears. My family lost a little land to I.D. in Mississippi. I knew a few folks who lost EVERYTHING to TVA. It's one of those things that I'm afraid I'll have to deal with one day. But I can tell you, if I've paid my mortgage, and my taxes, and the government decides to take my land, it's going to get ugly. I MIGHT surrender my land for a good cause and fair compensation. But if the area "needs" a mall, and I'm offered less than fair market value, you may see another crazy guy barricaded in his compound, and a major stand-off! A man's home is his castle!

. Spot on! You may not have been born an Arkansas Hillbilly, but you're a damn good convert. ;)

Yeah, born a Memphis redneck, but completely hillified in western NC. Arkansas is one of the few places where I almost fit in!

Plus, half my genes come from Mt.Ida/Caddo Gap. If I was any more Arkie, I'd be a dishonest politician!

Amen......your so true...well this idea was just a idea and one in a million comes true. So i think this idea really sucks..lol..

Don't quit thinking about solutions though. The world is a messed up place, and if more kids thought about real ways to solve the problems, we'd all be better off a few years down the road. Just remember freedom comes with a price. We must each be responsible for our own actions. If we share and are generous, we've done our part. World peace is the noblest of wishes, but never at the cost of individual freedom.

What about if everyone in the world was equal ?

We can give everyone equal rights, but we can't make everyone equal.

There is a HUGE difference between feeding someone unable to work, and feeding someone unwilling to work. If everyone was rich, nothing would be worth anything (example WW II: the Germans could actually paper their walls with money as that was cheaper then buying wall paper).

...build a big apartment building the size of usa...

Build that one underground, most of us LIKE to walk in the sunlight and get the benefits of it.

And my last comment on this, so as not to step on those that have already commented, if you destroy ALL money, you have removed all forms of exchange and now, everyone is no longer rich, but everyone is severely poor.

Now, if instead of destroying money, you make a LOT of your exchanges with goods (i.e. barter), then you come out better, using money only when you have nothing to barter with. I have seen this work.....very well actually.

if you scratch out the world domination part then it might even work now really sharing does work excellent (sometimes) but apart of the basic idea of sharing there are lots of small and important factors that change everything. communism does not define most of them. for example when it is forced in some way or inequal or begins to contradict itself it turns into a hell (as happened in most communism - ruled places around the world). and none of this has anything to do with the damn simple concept of sharing thats why i'd prefer to look directly at each of the involved factors without giving it all a main name in a group of friends of generic group of people who trust each other sharing is sustainable and positive and appreciated the max size of the group that can sustain without something bad happening depends on the relations between its members and on what is shared and on the terms and rules of the group try to observe this in the group of you and your friends. here are some example questions that i throw in the air to start with. think of other questions as well. for each one think of it in both directions (you to friends and friends to you) do you like to build stuff together with your friends ? would you like to live in 1 home with them ? in 1 room ? do you allow them to come to your home (while you are away) and use or take (lend) your tools ? your computer ? t shirt ? eat from your food ? do you ask them to do too much for you sometimes ? do you force something ? to which extent you speak openly about various subjects ? what amount of openness you expect in return ?


9 years ago

I really appreciate your ideas. But what i am telling you here is that, this is a source of security for everyone and no one would need to worry about crimes anymore this words would be eliminated from the dictionary. Everyone whether lazy or hard working does not need to waste their whole life working hard and having less but for everyone to enjoy life at the maximum. They would be no weapons , no crimes, no sexual crimes, no murder, no communism, no dictatorship (well their needs to be a leader to see if everything is going ok. )
So you see this has a lot of postive impacts such as their would be decrease in climate change. Since everyone would be living at one location. Population would be controlled thus destroying world hunger. And so on here is a list and equation.

World domination for peace = Peace , equality, freedom, no hunger, global warming reduced, More development, no deaths, no wars etc.

Those who would trade their freedoms for security deserve neither. Trust me, there's always a trade-off. I'd rather carry my gun everyday, and know that I can worship as I choose, say what I choose, and reap the benefits of my labour, rahter than handing it over to a world government that'll tell me what to think and how to live.

so, let's see, everyone is free and everyone is rich. But you have certain people building the apartment. What would be their incentive to do the building? you have the order men taking orders. Why would they do that? would you have to pay them? and the consumer goods need to be manufactured, the power plants manned, the oil rigs to feed the power plants need "workers". The comestibles need to be grown, harvested, shipped, processed,stored, prepared and served. Why would any of these people do any of the innumerable necessary jobs required by civilization if their only reward is exactly what the guy who sits home and does nothing gets?

Thats a good point mate. Well everyone needs to work it would be divided into 5 working hours and people from 5 sectors of the apartments. So everyone has to work for nothing but for what thy shall get in return so everyone works equally no one works more.

So, Person #1 runs one of the power plant, has gone to college for 8 years, trains continually, overseas a workforce of hundreds. Person #2 job is arranging flowers for the communal eating area. Me thinks Person #1 would come to despise Person#2, and vice versa.

Well , what i mean is that people would work for anything they want , there would be only one school. Also if some one works in pig pan and the other as a power plant operator both would get same thing. Is just do and survive stratergy. Anyways whats your idea behind World domination for peace ? do you have another idea to be able to make it fair ?

yes, you could have a system where people receive something, call it "pay", that is in proportion to the value, or perceived value, of the work they do, they then could exchange this "pay" with others for good and services.

Ever read the giver? Ever heard of communism? It doesn't work. Plus, rich is a status, if everyone is rich then there's nothing special about being rich. As said in the incredibles (lol), when everyone is special, then no one will be.

Well i used that term for reference. Anyways whats your idea for world domination for peace ?

I think it's impossible, just due to human nature, even if everbody was good it wouldn't work, people would become depressed (even if 1 person did) and it would set of a chain reaction. Or someone starts feeling a little rebelius


9 years ago

I agree with skunk. While an idea like that seems great, it only takes a small percent of lazy people to ruin everything. Imagine doing a group project at school. Think about how much harder it is if even one person doesn't help. Now imagine that on a much larger scale, like your idea.

Those ideas sell very well. People want utopia. But it NEVER works. Those who love freedom, and want to make a living for themselves would never stand for such. Lazy, incompetent and under-educated people love that sort of thing. But lazy, incompetent and under-educated people can't support that sort of society. What you'll find, is that people who actually have a chance to work and get ahead in life will react in two different ways. A) They will work, produce, save and invest. THey will educate their children, and plan for the future. B) Others will be lazy,doing only the bare minimum to survive. THey will try to take from the rich, rather than earn their own keep. THe only way that ideas like this work, is within a small group. If that small group is hard-working and truly one in purpose, the whole group will prosper. But add just one lazy (ignorant) person to the mix, and things start to fall apart.