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re NASA's Anti Nausea glasses DIYable? I need help because I can't ride in cars without being sick. Answered

I saw a show on the science channel about how NASA is using stroboscopic glasses to reduce the incredible nausea that astronauts get. This is really interesting to me because I have Graves Disease, and the worst symptom is chronic nausea. Right now, it hits randomly when I am in vehicles. Yesterday I had to take a three hour car drive, and white knuckled it the whole way home, trying not to be sick.

I have a few links to a paper about the glasses, and to the patent that explains how they work.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2982780/STROBOSCOPIC-VISION-AS-A-TREATMENT-FOR-SPACE-MOTION-SICKNESS-Millard

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6932090/description.html

I follow directions really well, and could put it together if someone could tell me what I needed, and how. My electronics experience is limited to a few LED throwies. (I've got a Make: electronics kit I keep meaning to play with, but haven't yet.) I'm not scared of soldering circuits. I'm just not sure how to put them in order, or read the schematics.

I wouldn't even consider this if I wasn't just desperate to be able to be in a motor vehicle without tossing my cookies after an hour. Long trips are agonizing with the nausea, and if this helps, I'd wear it no matter what it looks like in every vehicle I have to be on.

I really want to do this with my own two hands because then if it breaks I can fix it, or adjust it as needed. Plus, it would be just damn cool to build it. I don't know if that's possible, though, because I'm not sure what I am looking at needing to do to make this.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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Kiteman (author)2010-02-08

Have you tried anti-nausea wrist bands? 

Soft wristbands, like narrow sweatbands, but with a plastic button that presses against an accupressure point.

They don't work for me, but they did relieve Kitewife's morning sickness.

(Randomly googled example)

Be careful, because the first link says that the system works at 4-8Hz, which is the frequency most likely to trigger photo-sensitive epilepsy.

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HeresyOfTruth (author)Kiteman2010-02-08

The wrist bands don't work for me at all. I have had marginal success with ginger, but not to the degree I would like. That might be a confirmation bias, though.

I'm not prone to seizures, so am unworried about that aspect of this project.

The only thing that actually works is compazine or phenergan. My docs are more than willing to prescribe those, but they knock me out for the count. I'd like to experiment with a non drug way to get from point A to point B without puking.

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Kiteman (author)HeresyOfTruth2010-02-08

Are you driving?  Goggles like this may be illegal in the US.

Here's a thought - you can get solar-powered key-rings that blink opaque/clear.

Two of those, battery-powered, could be the source of your lenses....?

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HeresyOfTruth (author)Kiteman2010-02-08

I'm definitely not driving. Just a passenger. It's pretty impossible to drive when you're carsick from it.

I've never seen these key rings. That sounds like a possibility. Is there a link to them? I don't know what to google to find them. I just keep finding solar powered LED flashlight style key rings.

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ttp://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/everything_you_need_know_about_nvidia’s_3d_goggle_gamble 
Maybe the 3D shutter glasses may give you some ideas but you'll have to travel with a laptop next to you.

Maybe if you rig up two of those keychain photoframes in a pair of goggles and rig it up to flash at the right speed.  Or take the 1.5 inch LCDs out and use them as clear lenses to shutter out the natural light.  Good luck.

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Thanks for the link. I'll read that over. I have some concern that two separate flashing mechanisms might be hard to get to flash in sync, though.

Thank you.

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Sold. I don't know exactly what they mean by "blinking in sequence" but it's a start.

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I wonder if there is a way to modulate the "sequence", and to get it from turning off in 14 minutes?

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www.instructables.com/id/deul_blinking_LED/

You would need to research using an arduino microprocessor setup to easily program and vary the speed.

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Would the arduino be better than using a 555 timer, and switching out resistors and capacitors to get a different timing?

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Its MUCH easier to experiment with frequency and duty cycle with an Arduino chip - we just ran up a project at work with one.

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I'm not really electronically capable of doing that. I know what Arduino's are, but that's about the end of it for me. I am only at the solder and make LEDs light up stage. Hell, I'd have to have step by step directions just to add a 555 timer to an LED. I wish I could do what you guys do.

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Sorry, I am not an electronics whiz, hopefully others will answer. An arduino can control the duration of an LED on and the off period so you can make it flash morse-code like if needed.

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Kiteman (author)HeresyOfTruth2010-02-08

If you're finding the ones that say stuff like "I (heart) NY", blinking on and off, those are what I mean - there's an LCD screen over a message, "blinking" opaque-clear-opaque.


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HeresyOfTruth (author)Kiteman2010-02-08

I'll have to look around. Another friend is looking at the frequency of warming flashers, too. Thank you.

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vedhz (author)2011-02-04

ah.. This is exactly what I was looking for. Good News!!. http://rd3.ca

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Zaphod Beeblebrox (author)2010-02-17

i used to get bad headaches EVERY TIME i went in a car,for me it was the window movement and the stillness feeling in the car that was messing with my head.i just don't look out the windows and i'm fine now.wether this would work for you or not i don't know just an idea 

hope you figure something out  :-)

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Thank you, Mr. Bebblebrox. (I just wanted to say that.)

I try closing my eyes, but I haven't seen much benefit. It could be that by the time I am trying things, I am already so ill there's no hope.

I'll have to experiment. Thank you.

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you're welcome hope you find something that works!

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Goodhart (author)2010-02-08
Some "other" meds that work (OTC) 

Over the counter medication (usually causes some drowsiness) - to be taken 1-2 hours before boarding. The most recommended are pills with the active ingredient meclizine (less-drowsy Dramamine, Bonine, Antivert), then pills with the active ingredient Dimenhydrinate (Dramamine regular). Marezine (cyclizine) and Stugeron (cinnarizine) seem to be less sleep inducing than all of the above. Other popular antihistamines (Benadryl - diphenhydramine based) also work for some people. (Money saving tip: ask your pharmacist for the generic version of the medication you wish to take.)

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HeresyOfTruth (author)Goodhart2010-02-08

I do appreciate the advice. I prefer phenergan, myself, because I can reduce the dose to a level that keeps me only generally somnolent. I'm a nurse, and it was really weird to go from giving that advice, to taking it.

I hate the meds. They knock me out for far longer than the car ride. If I want to go on a three out drive to camp over the weekend, I am knocked out for the first day due to the meds, and on the day I come back. I have the same problem with planes, trains, and buses, too.

Thank you very much for the OTC round up. I'm not as familiar with cinnarazine. I might give that a go if my strobe glasses don't work for me.

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Goodhart (author)HeresyOfTruth2010-02-09
YW, it was just a suggestion, in the event you have difficulties making, obtaining, or getting relief from the glasses :-) 
 

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HeresyOfTruth (author)2010-02-09

What I was thinking, was I would have to build the item myself, if I wanted to make it. I can't cannibalize two flashing thingees (keychains, raver blinkers, etc) because they need to flash at the same time.

I'm not sure how this works, but I was thinking two LEDs in sequence, and in random order that I don't quite understand yet, a resistor, capacity, a 555 timer, and a battery holder?

Does that sound right?

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