MIDI Bass Pedals

Introduction: MIDI Bass Pedals

Ever since I first heard the Prog Rock band Genesis, I wanted a set of Moog Taurus Bass pedals to use alongside my bass guitar. When I had the funds to consider a purchase, they weren’t on sale anymore and used versions on eBay were ridiculously pricy. Then I discovered that MIDI bass pedals were around and looked into those, but soon found the pedals needed a keyboard or sound module again putting them financially out of reach. I wanted a simple self-contained unit. Recently I came across projects on YouTube and here on the “Instructables” website which gave me hope. I found projects using second had pedal units from old organs being used with various Arduino computer boards and old keyboards to make something along the lines I was looking for. However, most still needed an external MIDI Sound Module of some sort. I found a company in Belgrade, Serbia called MikRoe (www.mikroe.com), who made a small monophonic MIDI Bass module called “Bass Boy” (see parts list for full details). I also found the Doepfer MBP25 MIDI Controller on the Thomann website – a board designed to convert a pedal board into a MIDI Controller. This gave me all I needed – the parts to create a self-contained pedal board which could output to an amp without any sound module of keyboard. Thomann and Doepfer do offer a kit – MBP25 & Faceplate plus a FATAR PD/3 Pedal board for around £185 which I could have bought and simply added the Bass Boy. Still a bit expensive as I would have to design and build a case etc. EBay came to my rescue with a used pedal board from a c1980 WERSI Organ for £30. I ordered the MBP25 and Bass Boy and began building.

Supplies

  • Power Supply Unit - 7-12V 250mA + 100ma
  • Switch - 3PDT (On-On) 6A 3PDT Toggle Switch On-On Latching Miyama MS-500M
  • Ribbon Cable - Board to pedals - AMP MicroMatch 16 way
  • LED - No Resistor - Blue 12V 10 x Blue LED 5mm - Diffused
  • Potentiometer - Between 5K and 500K Lin & Knob
  • Midi Cables - 2m Midi Cables
  • Power Connector - IEC Mains Connector with Switch
  • Connector for Ribbon - TMM-4-0-16-2 Connector Micro-MaTch socket female PIN16 straight THT 1A
  • Mounting kit - Various Pillars, screws etc.
  • Diodes - IN4148 Diode - High Speed Signal Diode
  • Ribbon Protype Cables - M-F 40 Way
  • c13 rewireable plug
  • Midi Control Unit - MBP25 Circuit Board and Face plate - Doepfer.com http://www.doepfer.de/MBP25.htm
  • Bass Boy - Mono MIDI Bass Sound board – Mikroe.com https://www.mikroe.com/bassboy-board
  • 13 Note Organ Pedalboard - Used Organ Pedal Board from EBAY

Step 1: Preparation for Testing

Once the pedals arrived, I did a few continuity tests and mounted the chassis on a board so I could put everything together and make sure it all worked. I just used a few bits of timber and board I had in the shed. I would use this to wire things up temporarily to get it working and to help with the design of the proper case. I found out very early on the I needed the side timbers to stop the pedal unit tipping forward when a pedal was pressed.

Step 2: Sorting Out the Pedals

I took the circuit-board off the pedal board to check the wiring underneath. The board came off easily and I took the opportunity to clean the mechanical switch wires with a little wire wool. The circuit underneath was very simple – no components just tracks connecting the mechanical switches to the pins on the top surface.

Working out the wiring of the board needed some thought. It had to be the same as the schematic supplied in the MBP25 manual. This required the cutting of the thick circuit track to split the switches into two busses. I used a small Vero board to build a board to hold the required diodes and configure the wiring.

Step 3: MIDI Controller

As the Doepfer MBP25 Midi Controller board came with a power supply,

I was able to plug it in and test that it powered up and behaved as the manual said it should. This is a supplier photo of the controller without the face plate.

Step 4: BASS BOY Sound Module

The Bass Boy is a small circuit board – you can work out the size in relation to the mono jack socket. The online manual lists how the unit can be configured for different MIDI channels using the yellow jumpers (bottom left). I am planning to wire the board so that it can be switched off and isolated from the MIDI Controller signals so that the pedal board could be used with an external sound module or keyboard if required.

Step 5: Wiring for Testing

I spent a long time trying to work out the wiring for the pedal board to interface with the MBP25. I used a Veroboard to construct an interface board allowing me to add the diodes needed in each switch line and hold the wiring to the pedal board. I included the socket to connect the ribbon cable from the MBP25.

Unfortunately, in the first interface board, I failed to realise that the socket pin outs were not 1,3,5,7,9 down one side and 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 etc down the other – they are 1 to 8 down the left and 16 to 9 down the right. Once I realised that, I created a second interface board using a second socket everything worked!!

I was not convinced that this would be the best way to wire things up as it may be difficult to connect and disconnect the ribbon cable once everything is installed in the case. In the end I did rewire the interface board giving it longer wires between the pedal circuit board and the interface board.

Step 6: ​Front and Rear Panels

I purchased a 3U rack blanking plate and 2 recessed mounting boxes from CPC (www.cpc.farnell.com) and mounted the MBP25in the centre of the panel along with the power switches and LEDs for the MBP25 and Bass Boy and the MIDI Signal indicator. I also later added a volume control for the MBP25 which allows a bit of control over the output signal.

The back panel contains the MIDI IN and MIDI OUT, Audio Out from the Bass Boy, and the mains power In socket and switch.

Both boards are 12V so I included an internal Power Supply of an appropriate rating to supply the two boards.

One of the recessed boxes was fitted with an IEC mains connector with switch and the other with the MIDI IN and MIDI OUT Sockets from the MBP25 and the BASS BOY using its Jack socket. (Photos show temporary labels)

A final hook up and test to make sure all was well before starting to build the case.

Step 7: Case

I chose to build a case and add a flight case later. The pedal board itself was to look similar to all other bass pedal boards with all the connections on the back and controls on a top panel.

The first picture is the rough build – screws to be countersunk and joints glued. Still needs sides to be added at this point..

The 3U Panel fits into the top of the box and clears all the pedal board stuff below.

I constructed the case so that the top and back came off as one so all the wiring and connecting, with the exception of the pedal board ribbon cable could be done before the top was fitted. This way I can keep the wiring tidy and tie it down to keep things safe.

The second photo shows the almost completed case with the sides. Next stage is to sand and smooth the box ready for finishing.

The case was to be black. As wood doesn’t take spray paint that well, it was given a base coat of satin black with a little satin black spray paint over the top. Quite pleased with the results.

I am now able to carry out final assembly. The case enables everything to be fixed to the top/back cover leaving only the connection to the pedal board. Had to make sure everything cleared everything else before fixing things in place.

Step 8: The Completed Project

Added some labels and a logo (no I’m not a pro builder – just a bit of fun!) and here is the completed project.

It works well and also has been tested with an external MIDI Sound module.

The only thing at the moment is that the Bass Boy only works from C2 to C5 so you always have to transpose up on the MIDI Controller.

PDF of the Project included.

Total Cost £180 approx

Alan Pattle

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    2 Comments

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    JohnC124
    JohnC124

    Question 2 months ago

    Hi, I'm John Colville, an acordionist from Australia and I'm an electronics ignoramous.
    Whilst searching the internet I came across your site titled "Midi Bass Pedals" and
    thought you might be able to assist me in my quest.
    I have an accordion that is fitted with 12 contacts on my bass notes, and a common bar.
    What I would like is module that I can connect the contacts to that will give me a
    Midi signal that can then fire up a sound module. All I want is 12 bass notes.
    However, I'm not sure what I'm looking for and hope that you can help me.
    Regards John. email:- jcandaph@gmail.com

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    secman99
    secman99

    Reply 2 months ago

    Hi John, (Also replied directly via email)





    Thanks for getting in touch and showing interest in my
    little project. I also hope that you and yours are well and have not been
    touched by the current pandemic.





    As the Instructable says, I had been looking for a
    reasonable way to build a set of bass pedals to use alongside my bass guitar. I
    had looked at the Arduino (computer) based suggestions and as I have not used
    this sort of device before thought I would look further to see if there was any
    other options.





    The Doepfer MBP25 midi controller is a ready built circuit
    board (from Germany) which takes simple switch (on/off) inputs protected by a
    simple diode (basically a one way electronic switch) and translates them into
    midi note signals. So when you press the (say) E on the pedal board (just a set
    of mechanical on/off switches), you get an “E” midi note sent to a MIDI Module.
    I have the User Manual as a PDF which I have attached – The circuit on the back
    will probably explain things better than my words.





    I do not know much about accordions but if yours has
    “contacts” and a common rail it might be able to do the job of switching that
    the Midi Controller needs. Perhaps if you could let me have details of the make
    and model of your accordion I might be able to find information that will help
    is sort things out.





    If you are able to solder, and reasonably good with your
    hands (or know someone who is) you should be able to put something together. I
    am happy to offer any further help or advice – just ask.





    Looking forward to hearing from you.