Run AC Tools on Batteries Directly, Without an Inverter
Intro: Run AC Tools on Batteries Directly, Without an Inverter
The secret: Just do it. They're designed for that.
Nearly all power tools use a "universal" brushmotor that doesn't care if it gets AC or DC.
All you have to do is put 4 or more 12volt batteries in series and plug your tool in. I usually like to run my tools on about 70 volts DC (five batteries). They're a lot quieter that way and still have enough power.
If you want more power, just add more batteries. I think the gearbox of a circlesaw chatters less when it's running on DC. The batteries don't need to be nearly as healthy as what you'd need to power the same tools through an inverter.
Warning: All the warnings about tools, batteries, and electricity apply. If you want to get hurt you'll find a way, just like you would have without all this expert guidance.
Here I'm using a totally motley assortment of scrap batteries wired in series with my car battery.
If you have mismatched batteries the weak one will discharge first and need to be removed.
A lead acid battery is dead at 10.5 or 11 volts. Recharge then or it could stay dead.
You'll have to monitor them with a multimeter and write on the batteries with a sharpie so you remember what to expect.
I'm using one or more wimpy radioshack alligator clip cables, which make a decent fuse.
Don't try to put your solarpanels in series with your batteries for extra voltage. They can't deliver the starting current your motor needs. When the motor stalls that puts the whole series voltage across the solar panel which can be bad. The same effect means you want to take the weak battery out of the series as soon as the tool starts feeling weak.
To learn more about the junk battery powertool lifestyle, see the next Step.
Nearly all power tools use a "universal" brushmotor that doesn't care if it gets AC or DC.
All you have to do is put 4 or more 12volt batteries in series and plug your tool in. I usually like to run my tools on about 70 volts DC (five batteries). They're a lot quieter that way and still have enough power.
If you want more power, just add more batteries. I think the gearbox of a circlesaw chatters less when it's running on DC. The batteries don't need to be nearly as healthy as what you'd need to power the same tools through an inverter.
Warning: All the warnings about tools, batteries, and electricity apply. If you want to get hurt you'll find a way, just like you would have without all this expert guidance.
Here I'm using a totally motley assortment of scrap batteries wired in series with my car battery.
If you have mismatched batteries the weak one will discharge first and need to be removed.
A lead acid battery is dead at 10.5 or 11 volts. Recharge then or it could stay dead.
You'll have to monitor them with a multimeter and write on the batteries with a sharpie so you remember what to expect.
I'm using one or more wimpy radioshack alligator clip cables, which make a decent fuse.
Don't try to put your solarpanels in series with your batteries for extra voltage. They can't deliver the starting current your motor needs. When the motor stalls that puts the whole series voltage across the solar panel which can be bad. The same effect means you want to take the weak battery out of the series as soon as the tool starts feeling weak.
To learn more about the junk battery powertool lifestyle, see the next Step.
STEP 1: Happiness
Here's my workshop. I'm at a free campground in the Everglades getting ready for a trip into the swamp. It's winter, which is the dry season. So it's 68 degrees and sunny most days. The pond is full of fish and alligators. Some of the alligators have been fed by people, which adds excitement to the situation.
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My sun awning here is a mirrored "survival blanket" over a camo tarp. Don't bother with that, just get a real opaque silver tarp from CampingWorld. Home Depot, Lowes, etc. only carry the fake ones that make a solar oven that costs as much and won't prevent sunburn.
I do my cooking in a pressure cooker over a hobo stove. I don't have to watch the food cuz it won't burn before the fire dies down. I boil a dozen eggs or some fish stew on the bottom while I steam-bake a big bagel from my own dough in a stainless bowl floating ontop that. I grow my own sprouts for vegetables or eat the herbs that locals show me. So I don't need groceries and can stay away from towns a long time.
Every couple of days I'll drive a couple of miles til I have cell coverage and check my email to see if my life is still simple. I use my cellphone as a USB modem. My service is an old plan from Tmobile with a Motorola V188 phone. If I've been doing a lot of woodwork I'll gang up my batteries to recharge in parallel during the drive.
I sit in my comfy recliner in the shade and make cad drawings of Indonesian sailing canoes on my laptop. Solar panels charge my assortment of desulphated scrap batteries using bundles of christmastree lightbulbs as current regulators. I sip sun tea and nibble sprouts and a bagel with fish stew.
Colorful characters see my low-stress setup and come greet me like a long lost friend. They offer me beer and before long they're teaching me how to tune a spritsail like they did growing up in a Jamaican fishing village, or telling me what it was like to be imprisoned in "The Tombs" ("No privacy man! The worst!").
Find free campgrounds with the Free Campground Directory.
My sun awning here is a mirrored "survival blanket" over a camo tarp. Don't bother with that, just get a real opaque silver tarp from CampingWorld. Home Depot, Lowes, etc. only carry the fake ones that make a solar oven that costs as much and won't prevent sunburn.
I do my cooking in a pressure cooker over a hobo stove. I don't have to watch the food cuz it won't burn before the fire dies down. I boil a dozen eggs or some fish stew on the bottom while I steam-bake a big bagel from my own dough in a stainless bowl floating ontop that. I grow my own sprouts for vegetables or eat the herbs that locals show me. So I don't need groceries and can stay away from towns a long time.
Every couple of days I'll drive a couple of miles til I have cell coverage and check my email to see if my life is still simple. I use my cellphone as a USB modem. My service is an old plan from Tmobile with a Motorola V188 phone. If I've been doing a lot of woodwork I'll gang up my batteries to recharge in parallel during the drive.
I sit in my comfy recliner in the shade and make cad drawings of Indonesian sailing canoes on my laptop. Solar panels charge my assortment of desulphated scrap batteries using bundles of christmastree lightbulbs as current regulators. I sip sun tea and nibble sprouts and a bagel with fish stew.
Colorful characters see my low-stress setup and come greet me like a long lost friend. They offer me beer and before long they're teaching me how to tune a spritsail like they did growing up in a Jamaican fishing village, or telling me what it was like to be imprisoned in "The Tombs" ("No privacy man! The worst!").
STEP 2: Universal Motors
This concept of running power tools on batteries, AC, or whatever source of electricity you've got is nothing new. Back in the day a lot of truck alternators had a high voltage DC output for powering tools.
Even now you can trick some alternators into putting out 110 volts DC by putting more current into the field winding. They never got around to changing the architecture of the alternator.
But you better disconnect it from your truck's electronics and batteries first.
Here's the motor plate on my Skil 100 planer. It says "Volts 115 AC-DC".
It doesn't care what flavor of juice it drinks as long as it's pressurized to around 100 volts.
This much-loved power tool was made almost unchanged from the 1930s til the 1980s.
Like most power tools, it has a universal brushmotor.
Once they they got the bugs out and got set up to make these motors in large volumes, the tool makers never got around to adding anything that that would make the motors incompatible with DC.
Some drills have a speed control that won't work on DC. Usually the drill will spin just fine, but only at full speed.
Even now you can trick some alternators into putting out 110 volts DC by putting more current into the field winding. They never got around to changing the architecture of the alternator.
But you better disconnect it from your truck's electronics and batteries first.
Here's the motor plate on my Skil 100 planer. It says "Volts 115 AC-DC".
It doesn't care what flavor of juice it drinks as long as it's pressurized to around 100 volts.
This much-loved power tool was made almost unchanged from the 1930s til the 1980s.
Like most power tools, it has a universal brushmotor.
Once they they got the bugs out and got set up to make these motors in large volumes, the tool makers never got around to adding anything that that would make the motors incompatible with DC.
Some drills have a speed control that won't work on DC. Usually the drill will spin just fine, but only at full speed.
91 Comments
Hurls80 5 years ago
1whomcamefromheaven 4 years ago
Apply for early retirement.
You sacrifice 20% you'll never live long enough to spend @ 100% wanting till 67. Hell I'd rather live on 1800 a month for 40 years than 2800 for maybe 10 or 15 years.
BlakeB38 7 years ago
For those asking if this will power game consoles you need enough batteries in series to make roughly 170 volts as inside the power brick is usually a switch-mode power supply that rectifies 120v ac to 170v dc. you are welcome
triumphman 11 years ago
kedwa30 8 years ago
There's always a way. The first cars started with a hand crank. If it's a manual transmission, you can push-start it. You can put a hand crank in the chuck of a drill to make it into a charger. There's the solar cells. And of course you can always walk just far enough to flag someone down and get a jump start. :)
ecsaul23 8 years ago
Will this work for game consoles?
RileyM6 8 years ago
that's what i'm trying to figure out too. Game consoles and guitar amps
kedwa30 8 years ago
Since game consoles and amps ultimately use DC, you can power them off a battery, but it's not as simple as connecting the terminals to the plug. The plug goes to a transformer which prevents the DC from passing on through. So you would need to know what voltage DC you need and where to patch it in. If the plug is a wall-wart that does all the converting to DC, then you can simply look at the output, get enough batteries to match it, then cut the cord or make a connector to hook the battery up where it plugs into the amp. But if the wall-wart only transforms it from, say, 120VAC to 12VAC, then I don't know if hooking up 12V DC will work, but it might.
kedwa30 8 years ago
Game consoles use a transformer to convert the wall AC to whatever voltage DC they use, so in a word, no. But if you know the DC voltage your game console needs, you can directly hook up batteries to match that voltage, not using the plug or transformer. It's complicated because some game consoles need a variety of voltages. You can also use DC-DC converters to get whatever voltage you need from one 12 volt battery and those are usually a lot cheaper and more efficient than an inverter.
Wade Tarzia 17 years ago
TimAnderson 17 years ago
Wade Tarzia 17 years ago
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Wade Tarzia 9 years ago
I love getting replies to 8-year old threads -- it makes me think there is more solidity to this often ephemeral virtual digital world we are creating. I have, since this thread, found an excellent source of adz blades from a supplier to the Japan Woodworker tool catalog. These are adz blades for which you must build a handle -- he supplies the plans -- or go into the woods to find a proper crook to be shaped into one. These blades are LASHED on to the handle with a waxed nylon cord which he also supplies with the blade. I bought a small and a large. I have used the small several times -- it is excellent despite the too-light wood I used. Have not yet gotten around to building a handle for the large blade (which is not very large). They come honed and razor sharp. Carry on, and thanks for your reply!
triumphman 11 years ago
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