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The world cup-2010

Who's gonna win the world cup? Put your vote down in a comment if yur right at that team wins you get a sub! mm8 bye

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FIFA world cup

Who do you guys think is going to win the Fifa world cup next year?

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Vuvuzela filtering for World Cup

The biggest complaint I keep hearing about the World Cup is about the vuvuzelas, plastic horns that get blown for everything and nothing. This makes me almost glad that I'm missing practically every game because of the broadcast times and the fact that my TV only has bunny ears for reception. Well, PopSci has found that some people are fighting back by filtering out the frequencies of the vuvuzelas at 233 Hz, 466 Hz, 932 Hz, and 1864 Hz. It's a good enough trick that it makes me almost want to upgrade my setup so that I can try it out. Simple Software Can Filter Out That Vuvuzela Whine From World Cup Broadcasts

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What can I do with a Plastic Cup?

Hello, First post. I drink ALOT of soda from McDonalds. I go through ALOT of 32 oz. plastic cups. There has got to be some way I can use these cups to make the world a better place. I would love to find either a use for them or a product I can resell, or...something...anything....HELP!!!! Thanks

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Good sites to watch Premier League, World Cup and Champions League football videos and highlights? Answered

Do you guys know any good  football sites to go to and watch Premier League, World Cup and Champions League football videos and  football games highlights? I wanna watch some football videos of  Premier League and Champions League and  football videos compilations and, since the World Cup starts this week, I 'll probably also want to watch World Cup football videos with the latest games and highlights. So if you have some suggestions on good sites to watch Premier League, World Cup and Champions League football videos that you also use, do share them with me.

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How many of you are intersested in the 2010 FIFA world cup?

I want to know how many of you are interested in the 2009 FIFA world cup. Come and chat about it at www.instructables.com/community/Fifa-world-cup/   please talk about it.

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Where can I find football/soccer videos of the World Cup, Champions League, Premiere League and Bundesliga? Answered

Hello guys, If you like to watch  football/soocer videos online could you also maybe tell me where can I find football/soccer videos of the World Cup, Champions League, Premiere League and Bundesliga? I'd love to be able to watch all the football/soccer videos I like  in one place in some dedicated football video streaming websites. So if you have any suggestions on good places where to go online and watch World Cup, Champions League, Premiere League and Bundesliga football/soccer videos do share them with me.

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Flow Circus brings DIY skill toys to the world with Fundama

Flow Circus is a group of jugglers and skill toy artists dedicated to promoting creativity and play among kids and adults. Based on the Kendama and other ball, stick, and cup games from cultures around the world, they have created what they call "Fundama". From the site: Fundama: 1. Easy-to-make toy using basic elements such as string, tape, cups, and sticks that provide hours of challenging play; 2. From the Latin fundus: the bottom or basis for engaging programs for children, tweens, & teens Brief History: ...We know that budgets are tight and programmers are always looking for ideas that can be done on a shoe-string budget. We love encouraging skill-based play so we sat down with paper cups, string, tape, sticks and Fundama was born! There are videos and instructions all over the site telling how to create your own Fundama using sticks, strings, cups, and tape.  Great DIY and wonderful for parents and kids to do together at home, church, library, and school.

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I want to know more about the world cup soccer teams, and their players.

As I said, I want to know more about soccer teams and their players. If someone knows and is willing to answer, I would be very grateful. What I'm really wanting to know right now, is what all teams are (or were) competing for the 2010 world cup? I would also really like to know each of their players and the players positions. I realize each of those are big questions by themselves. So I won't expect you to answer all, or even one. But if I could get a link that has the information on all the soccer teams, or a partial answer, that would be great. Thank you for your help. Sinisterly, The Not So Nice Guy

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World Maker Faire 2013 NYC

Sad pup eh? Me too. World Maker Faire 2013 in New York City. I am dissapoint. Only noteable for us is trying out the augmented reality system by Jeri Ellsworth. Instructables did not represent. Autodesk did not represent Instructables. @carlbass The assimilation is complete. #SADROBOT #NOSHIRT. We went to Maker Faire today, I took along Caitlin and her two school buddies.  I knew to input the GPS the coordinates of the offsite parking lot entrance where you get the shuttle bus to the actual Faire entrance. 10 clams at the door. Driving around the park is like GTA. They seemed to have the parking lot better organized with more people to direct cars to open spots and the efficient school bus lady who counted off groups of people to load the buses as soon as they pulled in. I suggest more speed bumps/potholes and sharper turns for the bus drivers to negotiate.  Entry was quick and simple with preprinted tickets - still that extra surcharge for getting them online though.  It was a pleasant surprise that there were some vendors giving out free food samples today.  An applesauce in a resealable space-food pouch and an iced tea drink. On the return trip, the shuttle bus driver begged you not to leave behind litter like those green applesauce pouches and kids.  Which by the way, all in good to set up recycling stations to throw out trash, but why not mark the one for trash, trash, soiled paper cups were thrown in the paper because the one I think for trash had a big list of other things and not trash.  Food vendors seem to have been spread out on the periphery of the grounds so they don't create that big logjam in the center to impede flow to the rest of the areas of the fairground. Prices were still at tourist levels considering the captive audience. Not too many posted prices and if you have to ask, you can't afford it.  They did have some vendor kids throughout hawking cold drinks.  The Beer Garden seemed to be the centerpiece of the Faire.  The play/activity area geared for the younger/toddler set seemed to be expanded and set more apart from the more advanced maker stuff.  We did the inside tour first since it was nice weather to spend the rest of the day outside.  There was the esoteric mix of individual projects. Art and game machines from mounds of electronic discards. Projects and kits looking to launch on kickstarter. And the always hidden in the back room e-textile projects. The upper floor gallery room is always the best because it contains the light up projects, usually from NYU ITP. Jeri Ellsworth had a prototype of her augmented reality glasses.  An interesting project was having cross polarized glasses to see the image on a matched LCD display which no one else can see without the special glasses. One project used the light output from the laptop display to "burn" the secret message image onto one of those glow-in-the dark phosphor sheets. I'm not sure if the pancake-bot made it to the Faire this year. The performance space was closed off. I guess they couldn't book Arc Attack which was there first two years of World Maker Faire. No real Burning Man kind of stuff or major steampunkery. Outside, 3-D printers galore, everyone has one, way too crowded. Hackerspaces showing off their stuff. Giant tent if you want to line up to learn to solder. Coke/Mentos show late in the afternoon. Giant mousetrap show and circus aerial acrobat training rig going on. Giant tent if you want to make a stomp rocket that they shoot off with a compressor.Giant line too. Didn't the Disney imagineers tell them a zigzag snaking line is better for crowd control and keep the customers happy? Didn't see any quadcopters in the air.  Maybe all flights grounded with the recent local fatal accident with an R/C helicopter.  Some kind of go-kart racetrack. Usual stalls of handmade jewelry, t-shirts, soaps, candles, someone had a more detailed ugly doll. Guy with his found object stringed instruments played them well.  Maker Shed shop was the usual. Dark and expensive.  No real discount there. But it brings us back to this.  After what seemed like miles of walking around back and forth. I had to ask information if Autodesk had a booth presence at Maker Faire.  They said yes, back by the 3-D printer village tent.  I think we missed them going through the tent and found them on the outside end. The plywood hut sponsored by Sketchup didn't seem like where the Instructables people were. I was looking for the orange Instructable banner.  Looking to see there were no Robot shirts around, I asked the Autodesk people there, any Instructables people around? No, confused, do you work for Instructables? No, they are not part of my group. Jessy and Camille are not here and will be back soon.  Well, okay, maybe they sent Jessyratfink out as part of her Autodesk peer-recognition award. that would be cool to meet her, Caitlin thought the same, they sent Jessyratfink to Maker Faire?  We wander around to check out the other stuff and come back. Still no sign of Robot shirts.  I ask again and I get sent to a guy who I think is named Jesse.  I think he just happens to be in the Consumer Group who says the other guy Andy is more familiar with Instructables.  They thought they had a box of some instructables stuff, who knows what happened to it.  He did thank us for wearing our Robot shirts though.  Gee, I was hoping there would be some Robot shirts for Caitlin and her friends, at least Robot stickers.  We came to Maker Faire this year as redemption for last year when that Autodesk henchman kicked the crate of shirts under the table when he saw us get close to the booth. Caitlin uses that as an example of "Not nice, Mr. Moustache-man." It disheartens me Instructables seems like some corporate step-child. I can feel the that vibe going on.   I don't think Robot carries brand recognition anymore. No one asked about our Robot shirts as we walked around.  Some hackerspace also uses a yellow robot as their logo. We may pass on Maker Faire next year if there is no need to see any real Instructables staff. Doesn't Randy need to go visit his mom or something?

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LED Cricket Bails

Hi everyone, didn't really know where to put this  so put it here. Basically I love cricket and if you have seen the ICC World Cup T20 you will have noticed the light up  bails and wickets. Here they are if you havnt- http://www.zings.biz/products/jbjhbjbh. What would be the best way to make these? ps: I have plastic and wood bails available and am more interested in making the bails. Thanks  

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FIFA Day 3 Group D results

The world cup continues with ever so exciting games. Here are the results for group D: Game 1 Ghana 1- Serbia 0 Gyan 85th minute Game 2 Australia 0- Germany 4                       Podolski                       8th minute                       Klose                       26th minute                       Mueller                       68th minute                      Cacau                      70th minute  personal thoughts on game 1 An amazingly close game. if it wasn't for that penalty it would've been a tie. Not much more as i didn't get to see the whole game. personal thoughts on game 2 Watching my country lose was heartbreaking. I think the coach and the team made some bad choices. First of all, The coach should have put more players in defense. Also the team should have done shorter passes. almost every time they did a long pass the ball ended up in German feet. Another thing is that they should have attacked instead of waiting ten seconds before attacking. The last thing is that they should have run faster. The German team played amazingly well considering their injured players. I have always thought of Germany as one of the best soccer teams in the world. They have once again proven that they deserve being in the top 10. If Australia doesn't pass the group stages I'll be cheering for Germany. Good luck Aussies and Germans! Please comment about the teams and games. 

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Danger in separating compressor head from tank?

Wasn't sure where else to put this, I'm trying to turn an old ambulance into a shop truck and I'd like to use the stock giant O2 tanks on the side as the reservoir for pneumatic tools. How dangerous would it be to rig the compressor head somewhere else in the truck and pipe the air to the tanks? I'd of course include a pressure release valve and some sort of cup to catch moisture since these tanks wouldn't have a bottom valve (though I doubt a full on air dryer would be practical). I was hoping to use flexible tubing to run the air but I doubt that would be safe at tank pressure. Would black iron and pipe tape be enough? Am I setting myself up for a world of hurt? These tanks would be powering pneumatic tools and possibly a media blaster, thanks for any advice, Mac

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Finding that perfect brownie

Ok, I have tried and tried and I need some assistance from the Instructable community. My favorite brownies in the world are Ghirardelli's Triple Chocolate Brownie mix. It's a delicious chocolatey blend with 3 different chocolate chips inside (semisweet, milk and bittersweet/dark). The batch comes dry and you add 1/3 oil, 1/3 cup water (though I use coffee), and 1 egg for a 8x8 pan of brownies. My issue is I want to figure out how to make these from scratch. As much as I love them, I'm a scratch kind of girl and I just don't feel like I can call a recipe mine if I'm using a box mix. There's tons of brownie recipes online but none that seem similar. I figured out that the dry mix must obviously have their cocoa powder in it, but I can't find a recipe that has you add egg, oil and water to a dry mix. Many of the recipes I found have you melt one of the chocolates into your chocolate batter, rather than use cocoa powder, but I don't think Ghirardelli does that, unless I'm wrong. And if they did, how would it come as a dry mix? Others might have used powder but then they call for a lot of butter instead just a 1/3 cup of oil. Are there any brownie experts who can figure this one out for me? 

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Bacon bowls and cool eco wallets

I was browsing around some of our referring sites this morning and I found a couple of interesting posts on notmartha.org. Bacon Cups >> I had an occasion calling for bacon themed food and my mind immediately turned towards the famed bacon mat. I needed something a little more single-serving though, so I decided to attempt bacon cups. In the bacon mat instructions there is mention of draping the mat over an overturned metal bowl and cooking it so that it would turn out in as a bowl shape. I decided to try using the backs of various muffin and mini cake pans, I ran out of bacon before I got to try as many as I would have liked so I'll have to try more at a later date. Any excuse for more bacon. DB Clay Wallet >> The people at DB Clay gave me a Version 3 wallet to give away! I hope you don't mind if I had a little look at it, it's excellently manufactured. DB Clay makes limited edition wallets out of a material they call Tope: "Tope is strong. Tope is durable. Tope is heat and cold resistant. Tope is smooth textured. Tope is water resistant. Tope is robust. Tope is eco friendly." The material feels great, and I bet if they sold it by the yard Etsy makers all over the world would buy it like crazy. I thought these were really cool wallets and then I found out you can get one for 50% on their website for the next 6 hours. So if you want/need a cool wallet, here's your chance.http://www.dbclay.com/

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Build Night with littleBits at the Taipei Hackerspace

Hi everyone, Just reporting from the Taipei Hackerspace regarding the littleBits build night last month. It was a very popular event, a lot of people were brought in by littleBits. It was the first time I myself tried them, and it was amazing to see how many things people have built, from kids to grownups, everyone was hacking. Haven't really happened such thing many times before. The event had a requirements that the resulting projects need to use the Arduino module. While it was awesome tool, most people were just doing analog electronics. Needed some time after the build night to hash out some projects that would be eligible for us to submit. Fortunately did come up with a few, and it was a lot of fun. In the process I think we have fried one Arduino module, but the rest of it is still being used every time we have visitors to the Hackerspace. Here are our projects from the build night: littleGoal: world cup notifier littleTea: robotic tea brewing littleWork: working hours notifier Cheers, and thanks for this opportunity! Greg

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ComBots: Special Instructables Discount!

Want to watch some robot mayhem? Here's a discount offer from our friends at ComBots: ComBots invites all Instructables readers to discounted tickets to "ComBots Cup V", the fifth annual heavyweight robot combat championship. This event highlights the best combat robot teams in America and their 220 pound flame-throwing, blade-spinning, titanium shearing robots of destruction! This year's event is Saturday/Sunday, October 23-24th from 2-7pm at the San Mateo Event Center. Whether you're a sports fan or techno geek, ComBots puts on the best robot events in the world! If you missed seeing fighting robots at Maker Faire this year, or are longing for RoboGames, here's your chance to see them again. Full details at http://combots.net ComBots is pleased to offer Instructables readers a 20% discount on ticket prices (adults normally $20, kids $15). Coupon is only valid for advanced purchases until Oct 20th. Buy tickets at http://combots.net/buy-cc.php and use the coupon code below for your discount when you check-out! code: Instructables

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Arduino Script Issue?

Hey world, I am making device that will automatically water my xmas tree: I am using the basic "button" script from the Arduino IDE examples. the only change I have made so far is instead of using an actual push button I am sticking 2 bare copper wires(the ground has a 10k resistor) into a jar.  When water is added to the jar the connection is made and the LED goes on. The problem is that it only stays on for like 7 seconds. I need it so as long as there is water in the cup the light stays on. any ideas? Below is a copy of the script. Thanks! const int buttonPin = 2;     // the number of the pushbutton pin const int ledPin =  13;      // the number of the LED pin // variables will change: int buttonState = 0;         // variable for reading the pushbutton status void setup() {   // initialize the LED pin as an output:   pinMode(ledPin, OUTPUT);   // initialize the pushbutton pin as an input:   pinMode(buttonPin, INPUT); } void loop() {   // read the state of the pushbutton value:   buttonState = digitalRead(buttonPin);   // check if the pushbutton is pressed. If it is, the buttonState is HIGH:   if (buttonState == HIGH) {     // turn LED on:     digitalWrite(ledPin, HIGH);   } else {     // turn LED off:     digitalWrite(ledPin, LOW);

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Grey Goo and Google

Grey goo is a hypothetical end-of-the-world scenario involving molecular nanotechnology in which out-of-control self-replicating robots consume all matter on Earth while building more of themselves-a scenario known as ecophagy (eating the environment).This just happens to be the Wikipedia entry for Grey goo, which has earned a very rare position on the internet.If you haven't already noticed, if a browsers default search engine is Google, when you type something in the URL field that isn't a URL, it will either turn up a Google search for it, or go to the I'm Feeling Lucky page. I'm Feeling Lucky is just the first page a Google search returns.The Wikipedia page on Grey goo happens to be the first one up on a search for "goo." This is very standard, except for the fact that the first three letters in Google are goo. This is how I discovered this. While attempting to access google.com, a very angry-intentioned yogurt cup interrupted me using the great power of the enter key while I was typing. I was cut half way through, and it returned "goo," and I was shown the info on a wretched nano-sized robot that was about to eat me, rather than the friendly interface of Google, although it was Google itself that brought me there. Oh well, my largest problem was the yogurt cup exploding all over the floor of the hotel we were in. This means that the page on Grey goo must be a very popular page, not because of its content (although the content is rather interesting), but because of typing errors. It seems like more of an Easter egg than a coincidence.The Molecular Nanotechnology series is a little odd too.Just a sudden surprise I thought I might share with a few people...p.s. this seems to be similar to what happens in Micheal Crichton's Prey...

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Dawn

This poem is from my book Melodious Verse. It is a Carmen Figuratum of a sunrise on a fall morning I wrote while sitting on the shore of Lake Ontario 37 years ago. I did not have a camera with me so I did not capture an image of the dawn to go with the poem. I have photographed the dawn a thousand times and never captured just the right image of the dawn to accompany the poem. Carmen Figuratum a poem that has a certain shapes or pattern formed either by all the words it contains or just by certain ones therein. An example is the shape of each stanza resembles a wine cup.                                                             New Day                                     I sit watching god’s creatures of the night,                                      fleeing from the ever-approaching dawn.                                A bright orange and red haze caresses the horizon.                                                     Beyond this is the sun.                             Slowly ever so slowly rising above the edge of the earth:                                           to explode into an orange ball of fire.                              Sending a red-river of shimmering light across the water,                                                           now it is dawn.                           I can hear the cries of a seagull as it gracefully glides by me.                                               In the water ducks swim around,                                                 as the sun lights up the world.                                                       It becomes morning,                                                        it is dawn no more,                                                           but a new day.                                                                   By                                                    Josehf Lloyd Murchison                                             Copyright ©2007 Josehf Murchison

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FIFA Day 1 Group A results

Day 1 of the FIFA South Africa world cup 2010 is over. Every team in the group has a chance to enter the finals as both games ended in a draw. Game 1 South Africa 1- Mexico 1 Tshabalala       Marquez Minute 55        Minute 79 Game 2 France 0- Uruguay 0 Personal thoughts on Game 1: South Africa has really surprised me with their skill. I really expected Mexico to win but the South Africans have proven me wrong. South Africa had a slow start but close to half time they started to play really well. Mexico had a very hard time penetrating their defense. Mexico had a higher percentage of ball possession and showed to be a tough competitor. In the second half things started to warm up with the first goal made by Tshabalala in the 55th minute. Mexico countered with a goal by Marquez in the 79th minute to even things out. Overall a great game. Good luck to both teams. Personal thoughts on Game 2: This game was very interesting although I thought the coaches of both sides made some mistakes. IT was pretty even the whole way through but Uruguay was being pretty tough on the opponent giving them several yellow cards and a red card. Personally I think the french coach should have put Thiery Henry in the game much sooner. A great game from both sides. Good luck to you aswell. Feel free to leave comments regarding these games and teams. 

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(newsletter) Laser Lighter, Cardboard Furniture, Climbing Gorilla...

Sign-up for this newsletter: Welcome back!NEW CONTEST: Create something crafty with or for a kid for the SINGER Kids Crafts Contest and win a sweet new serger from SINGER!NEW CONTEST: Make a 30-second how-to video for the Forbes Teach Me Fast Contest and win an awesome Flip MinoHD video camera! Winning videos will be featured on Forbes.com.Build anything using cardboard, and enter the Gorilla Glue Cardboard Contest to win a huge package of Gorilla Glue supplies and gear!Cook up something tasty for the Low & Slow BBQ Contest and win a Weber Smokey Mountain Cooker, and autographed copies of the new Low & Slow BBQ book! Contest Winners! See which awesome projects won the Pocket-Sized Contest and the Get in the Garden Contest! Rubber Hose Chair Drumsticks World's Best Cardboard Chair Open a Pesky Pistachio Nut Share something cool quickly! Get crafty! Make a Cardboard Billfold or Wallet! Music Visualizer (oscilloscope) Udon Noodles in Miso Sauce Make Furniture With Cardboard! Make Paper Beads Build an Analog Vocoder Climbing Cardboard Gorilla Make a Berry Picker with PVC Submit a cardboard creation andwin a prize pack from Gorilla Glue! Cook up something tasty! Cheapy Laser Lighter Burner Urban Artwork Using Bead Plates Bioshock Belt Buckle in Bronze Carve a Shrink Cup Sign-up for this newsletter:

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How to build your own soccer/football referee communication system?

Hi, if you are a soccer/football fan, then you have seen soccer referees in UEFA, EPL, and World Cup matches wearing and using a communication system to talk with one another. An example of this is here: http://www.crescentcomms.com/ A similar system is offered specifically for dental offices: here (NOTE: actual that website shows a lot of interesting equipment) The problems associated with this system are: -Too expensive -Too many wires -Too many pieces of equipment -Too heavy to wear (a transmitter is strapped to your shorts as you run around) -Uncomfortable to use as you are running and sweating People can build their own cheaper systems by buying 2-way walkie talkies, headsets, batteries, arm straps, etc. off the shelves.  But it retains all the drawbacks. What I really envision are the following: -Secure communication (i.e. set channel/frequency) for at least 4 referees -Open communication (i.e. no need to push to talk) -Each referee wears a bluetooth headset like this one made by Platronics -Adjustable ear pieces as needed -Need to work for at least three hours straight at one time -Ideally powered by small lithium batteries (like those used for watches) -Ideally power source should be rechargeable or somehow be able to plug into USB or outlet for recharging As you can see, I really would like to see something built that can eliminate the wires, the weight, and discomfort.  Keep it super simple to use and equip.  If anyone has suggestions, please offer them. 

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FIFA Day 2 Group B results

Another day of good matches at the 2010 FIFA world cup. The group B games were as good as the first games here are the results. Game 1 Korea republic 2- Greece 0 LEE Jung Soo 7th minute Park Ji Sung 52nd minute Game 2 Argentina 1- Nigeria 0 Heinze 6th minute Personal thoughts on game 1: I didn't get to see the two goals but I foud it an amazing coincidence that they were both scored 7 minutes into each half. Maybe the coach had planned this. If that is true I really want to see Korea's next match. It seemed to me that Greece wasn't playing very nicely as they constantly kept shouting at each other. I personally think this is why they lost. Good luck to both teams and I hope Greece plays nicer next time. Personal thoughts on game 2: This game i was able to watch except for the first few minutes. I missied the goal but I saw it in the Highlights. I found this game much more enthusiastic than the last one. Mainly because every time Aregentina commited a foul they apollagized to the Player. This is something that is needed in a lot of games. It's a great sign of good sportsman ship. Nigeria had an amazing defense. It will be hard to score when playing against them. I think all these teams still have a chance to enter the finals. Good luck to you all. Amazing games! Please Comment on the teams and games.   

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Funny Joke

Ok here's a pretty good joke I heard earlier ... .... .... Ok so there were three rugby players ... one from australia (yeh) one from south africa (eh) and one from NZ (ooh!) so the go down to uh one of the certain countries where alcahol is band (???) they end up having a party and well start to drink some beer and all that ... then a local police officer comes to see whats going on ... he finds out what they've been up to and starts to whip the three ... but "Hey South Africa, I heard you played well in the world cups, so I am going to grant you a wish before I give you your 30! lashes" (officer) "Ok, I wish for one pillow strapped to my back please." (SA) So the cop lashes him 1,3,5,and ten times.  But the pillow disintegrates and the player carries 20 lashes "Hey, it's australia ... I  saw you played really well durig the games!! I'll grant you one wish before I give you your 30 lashes."  (officer) "Ok I wish for 2 pillows strapped to my back!" (aussie) he gets whipped 20 times and his 2 pillows fade away too so he recieves 10 lashes. "Wow it's NEW ZEALAND !!! I seen you play REAL well in the games I 'm happy to grant you 2 wishes" "Ok for my first wish I want 50 lashes" NZ  "ohh someones trying to be the tough guy hahaha" (cop) "and for my second wish i want that AUSSIE strapped to my back instead!" NZ Ok that was it please comment!

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Giant Robot Architecture Talk by Greg Lynn in Berkeley

Here is an interesting talk from the Art, Technology, and Culture Colloquium of the Berkeley Center for New Media...Giant Robot ArchitectureGreg Lynn, UCLA & Angewandte, ViennaMonday, Feb 4, 7:30-9:00pm- Note Special Location: Berkeley Art Museum Theater- Enter on Dwight Ave: http://bampfa.berkeley.edu/visit/visitor- Lecture is free and open to the publicAbstractRobots. In my office, my staff keeps asking for more new machines, and every time I get a new machine, I fire two or three people. By extrapolation, in the next few years I will be sitting in an office by myself with a bunch of robots. We have is a very large CNC (computer numerically controlled) cutting machine, a laser cutter, a 3d printer, and soon we will have a robotic articulated arm. All of these things let us do studies of models, which are very important to architects, but what they also let us do is learn machine language. We spend more and more time talking to machines; speaking their language. It is very easy for us to go to any country that has an automobile industry or an aircraft industry and give their machines instructions and do things with these large machines at an architectural scale that is very perfunctory and affordable. The spread of machine language and programming is more significant than the Anglicization of the world. Learning to talk to robots is very important to my field of design.Speaker BioGreg Lynn is a leading pioneer at the intersection of computing, design, and architecture. His architectural designs have been exhibited in both architecture and art museums including the 2000 Venice Biennale of Architecture where he represented the United States in the American Pavilion. His work is in the permanent collections of CCA, SFMoMA, and MoMA and has been exhibited at the Pompidou, Beyeler, Cooper Hewitt, MAK, MoCA, NAI,Carnegie, ICA and Secession museums among others. In addition to his architectural work, his Alessi "Supple"Mocha Cups and his Vitra "Ravioli" Chair are in production and have been inducted into the Museum of Modern Art's Permanent Collection. He received the American Academy of Arts & Letters Architecture Award in 2003. In 2002, he left his position as the Professor of Spatial Conception and Exploration at the ETHZ (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich) and became an Ordentlicher University Professor at the University of Applied Arts in Vienna.He is studio professor of Architecture at UCLA and the Davenport Visiting Professor at Yale University. Greg Lynn holds degrees in architecture and philosophy and received an Honorary Doctorate degree from the Academy of Fine Arts &Design; in Bratislava. In 2001, Time Magazine named him one of 100 of the most innovative people in the world for the 21st century. In 2005, Forbes Magazine named him one of the ten most influential living architects.http://www.glform.comMore info on the colloquium here.

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57-Storey Death ray

Concave, polished, and 57 stories tall - the Vdara Hotel in Las Vagas could be the world's largest death ray... Reports are cropping up around the web that the smooth curved surface of the hotel focuses the Sun's rays into a patch around 10 feet across in the pool area, soon after noon. Fortunately, the glass disperses around 70% of the solar energy falling on it, otherwise lawyer Bill Pintas might not be here to tell the tale; After a brief dip in the hotel pool, Pintas was sunning on a recliner. He was on his stomach, relaxed, eyes closed. But suddenly, the lawyer became so uncomfortably hot that he leaped up to move. He tried to put on his flip-flop sandals but, inexplicably, they were too hot to touch. So he ran barefoot to the shade. "I was effectively being cooked," Pintas said. "I started running as fast as I could without looking like a lunatic." Then he smelled an odor, and realized it was coming from his head, where a bit of hair had been scorched. It was about 12:20 p.m., as best Pintas can recall. The hot-spot, which sweeps the entire pool area during the day, spikes at least 20 degrees above ambient temperatures, and has been seen to melt plastic bags and cups (made of plastics which melt at around 70°C (160F). Other guests, including newspaper reviewers, have also observed the burning beam. The hotel management doesn't call it a "death ray", they prefer the more friendly distinction "solar convergence phenomenon". Gordon Absher, a spokesman for MGM Mirage says the hotel is addressing the problem, and comments, "Because of the curved, concave shape of that hotel, they sometimes get isolated pockets of high temperatures." ---------------------------------- Never mind dispersing the light - get those windows polished up, and let's see how many lawyers a fifty seven storey burning glass can really deal with!

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Leaving China and Taking a Part With Me.

My time was short, it seems my time is always short. Groggily I was pulled from bed the day after the Maker Faire. Spending the night at Eric's place was so wonderful, it was my first nights sleep since leaving America a few days earlier. We loaded Eric Pans car with gear and headed out to pick up a 3D printer. 3D printing technology is booming in the states, nearly every hackerspace in America has a Makerbot and design firms have Shapeways to turn to to get their rapid prototyping. But elsewhere in the world these things are still fresh! Sharing tools is something I love to do because you never know where people's creativity will take them. You never can know all the problems in the world, but all the people know all their problems! One of my missions then is to share low cost and open technologies to people I think can make awesome use of them! The night before after the Shenzhen Maker Faire all the Makers were invited to a gathering. Beer, frogs on skewers and peanuts were all provided free of charge. We ate, drank, wheeled and dealed. Wiess Tech is a filament company in Shenzhen and they have started noticing that more and more of their customers were 3D printers. Especially DIY 3D printers. So they've begun to make Makerbot replicas with some modifications. And there I was - I wanted a 3D printer to bring with me to Beirut and they wanted… Well, I wasn't sure. The language barrier between us was strong. Somehow Eric and I convinced them that it would be a good idea to give me a machine, and perhaps I'd pay them back when I got to the states. At this point I was at $244 dollars and dropping and I couldn't even afford the incredible hackerspace price the company was offering of $500 dollars! They agreed, and that's how I found myself rushing off to their head quarters the next morning before catching my ship. But first. We must go to Seeed Studio to buy a cup of coffee from the robotic tweeting (QQ) coffee machine in their break room. Hahaha! We headed out to Wiess Tech and on the way there we drive by construction zone after construction zone. Aparently Shenzhen didn't exist 30 years ago, and now you can still see the signs of a rapid expansion. Everything here is growing at an incredible pace, and apparently even maker culture. We arrive at Wiess HQ, which is housed in a 30 story complex decked out with multiple confusing entrances, cafeterias and dual elevators for the odd and even numbered floors. After spending a bit of time wondering how to get to floor 22 and circling the building, we found ourselves face to face with a small crew of about 8people. A few people managing papers, a secretary, some of the marketing team, and one guy sitting at a table putting together Wiess Tech versions of the thingimatic. After speaking with them we find that they also sell a machines based around the Reprap project, one of the earliest open 3D printing projects and have in the works a few models of their own designs. I'm excited to see how Weiss Tech bootstraps itself off of open sourced designs and starts producing their own versions! I hope to see a whole new generation of better, faster and cheaper machines that stay open! Go Weiss Tech! Heading out to take a 3D panorama from their deck Eric rushes and tells me that my ship leaves in 20 mins and that the time is now. After an awkward moment or two talking about paypal and me giving them advice on staying open we undo all their packing (too bulky) throw the machine into my luggage and run. In the car Eric and I discuss the future of Chinese makers. It really seems this is just the start of something much larger. It's an exciting time, his company is building great products, more Chinese companies are looking at open source technologies and more people are calling themselves makers. Perhaps it's through Maker culture China will be able to become more than the King of manufacturing, but also participate in producing quality designs and solving serious problems. Leaving China, the baggage handlers on the ferry were rough handling Adriana, my 3D printer, and it really cut deep. But as I watched Shenzhen bay slowly recede, I knew the next time i came back, again, everything would again be different. This is the pace of China and yet it seems softened by the fog falling over the rolling green hills. +Bilal Ghalib

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Need help with capacitive button cover for Xbox One.

So I hate capacative buttons.  I work for Microsoft as a game dev and we all have Xbox Ones.  They have the worlds most sensitive capacative power button.  We regularly accidentally turn our boxes off with a slight brush of the hand, bumping a coffee cup that was too close or brushing a controller cord against it. I have been trying to build a button cover.  One that will still turn it on and off with an actual press rather than a light glance of the hand.  I have had no luck so far and have been learning about conductive surfaces along the way. The original plan was to use conductive rubber and some scotch double sided tape.  The tape I am using is a clear rubber and has a mm or so of thickness to it.  I bought some gasket punches and punched out a button about the size of the capacitive area of the Xbox One power button, around an inch, and then another in the tape.  I punched out a smaller center hole in the tape to turn it into a washer, and stuck it onto the button and stuck it on the Xbox.  In theory you have to press the button in to make contact with the capacative button to turn on or off the Xbox.  But alas, it still turned on with the slightest of brush still.  I stacked the tape up to four times.  I tried foam mounting tape.  Alternated tapes, stuck electrical tape inbetween, and still the same thing.   On their own the tapes wouldn't turn on the button when tapping them to, but perhaps there was enough distance when touching holding it length-wise rather than flat against. I figure the electricity must be flowing over the non conductive surface and still going to the button.  In the office with all the EMF I seem to be averaging around 3v to the touch.  I have a grounding mat at my desk that when I make contact with takes me under a volt, to around 0.3v but that doesn't make a difference. So I figured I needed a bigger insulator.   I got some larger machine washers where the hole seemed larger than the capacative area, punched another larger button out of the conductive rubber and glued it over the hole.  Using double sided scotch tape I stuck it to the Xbox.  The same thing as before happened.   Even touching the rubber only was enough to turn it on with a light bump.   I figured I needed a ground.  I tried removing the grounding cord from my mat and holding it against the rubber of the button.   It seems slightly less responsive but still turned on easily.   I tried running copper tape along the side of the Xbox to the button to see if that would draw away the charge, but it did not. Taking my rubber washers I used my multimeter to see if they were conductive at all.  They did not seem to be.  Setting it to measure the volts in ac they are picking up about 0.03v, but so is just the air.  But the rubber rings will turn on the Xbox when I hold them though the thick double sided tape will not. Does anybody have any ideas on how to get this to work or what I am doing wrong?  I will admit I don't know a ton about this stuff.  But I don't understand how these materials can turn the button on.

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Electron Club Open Day Show and Tell, Glasgow 13 June

Electron Club Open Day2pm-8pm Saturday 13th June 2009Centre for Contemporary Arts (CCA), 350 Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow, G2 3JDThe Electron Club is a voluntary run space where people interested in things like free open source software, circuit bending, hardware hacking, computer recycling, streaming, audio and video editing, green technologies, and amateur radio can meet, use equipment, and share anddisseminate their skills and ideas. The space supports both individuals developing their own projects and a number of group projects, all of which are not-for-profit initiatives with a community, educational or environmental aspect to them.Now in our third year, the Electron Club Open Days are an opportunity to see and try out a range of things that people do, as well as having the opportunity to meet others with similar interests, make, chat, discuss and enjoy.TESLA SOUL - Electron Club Makers Fair and homebaking - Bajery in the Makery!Stalls and demos by electronic makers, designers and artists. An opportunity to see and play with some of the projects created by Electron Club members and related groups - a theremin menagerie and mini synthesizer kits, 3D paper engineering, circuit bending, micro FM radio,DIY wind power technology, creative computer trash recycling, 101 things to do with a dead keyboard and much more. Plus some of the excellent home-baking that has been hallmark of all our Open Days. Come and do a bit of soldering or have a cup of tea and chat with the people who make things.TAPE-WIRE-HEAD-SCREEN - music, film and sound artsThe Electron Club includes many people working in music, film and experimental arts. For the Open Day we will be showing a preview of films from Document, the UK's leading human rights film festival, with works ranging from front-line reportage to cinematic explorations of what it is to be human, along with films made at the Electron Club by the Digital Desperados, a film-group for young black and Asian women. We'll have a live performance of Alvin Lucier's legendary "Music on A Long Thin Wire" by members of 'Obscure Desire of the Bourgeoisie' and BuffalobuffalobuffaloBuffalobuffalo'. Outdoors, artist Lucie Potter will invite people on a specially planned sound walk around the Garnethill area.THE LIFE OF SOCIAL THINGS - socially-engaged technology forumA series of discussions about different ways in which society and technology come together.Glasgow FabLabsFabLabs are small scale fabrication and construction workshops that provide computerised production technologies on an artisanal scale making them available to communities and independent makers and designers. From inner-city Boston to remote Indian villages, FabLabshave become a worldwide network of community technology centres. Glasgow FabLabs is a project aiming to bring such a centre to Glasgow. This forum will present the ideas behind the Glasgow FabLabs project and explore the benefits of community-access technology.Community Media and Citizens JournalismThe internet has offered a platform for communities and groups outside of the mainstream media to have a voice and share knowledge. Whilst there are many notable examples of such activity, the tools to create such a democratized media space are still often out of people's reach.This forum will look at some practical examples of community media coming from Glasgow, present some current projects looking to make ordinary people's voices more prominent and explore the relationships between the grass-roots and mainstream media.Technology, Social Justice and the EnvironmentHow can we use technology for the greater common good? Whilst the advance of technology promotes the promise of a better world, that promise has often been compromised or undermined in how we make use of such advances. Certain technological developments have contributed to environmental and social problems on a scale arguably never seen before.Technology, however, has also been used to tackle such issues as climate change and social injustice. This forum will share and explore some practical examples being used in Scotland today, from noise monitoring devices to participatory video and community mapping projects.RAFFLE - broadband fundraiserThis year we are raising funds to improve our network facilities at the Electron Club and we will be doing a raffle with prizes including a group voucher to go paintballing.http://www.electronclub.org Contact: openday@electronclub.org

Topic by greensteam  


Is working with your hands better than just with your head?

I saw this on the BBC, and was so impressed I've reproduced the whole thing here: By Tom de Castella Journalist If the new year and inevitable return to work leaves you yearning for change, is working with your hands the answer? The time for reflection is nigh - a new year, a new you. But is that workstation you've slotted back into looking depressingly familiar? As millions of workers drag themselves back into the office to contemplate another 12 months of drudgery, many will be wondering if they are in the right job. Writer and mechanic Matthew Crawford thinks a lot of us would be better off trading in our mouse for a screwdriver. His recent book, The Case for Working With Your Hands, has been a huge hit in his native United States, praised by critics and politicians alike. Mr Crawford, who used to run a Washington think tank but now mends motorbikes, says it is no wonder people are miserable at work. Jobs have become so specialised and process driven that it is hard to see what difference you are making. And in those rare cases where one's impact is obvious, the result may seem pointless. Jealousy "A lot of us are plagued with a sense of uselessness," he says. "I've created a brand - what good is that? So I've persuaded people to buy something they didn't need." When running a think tank, he says he honestly could not see the rationale for being paid at all, and wondered what tangible goods or services he was providing to anyone. Then he opened a motorbike repair shop and was surprised to find he was not just happier, but more intellectually stimulated. The life of a tradesman is a varied existence, mixing practicality with logic and problem solving, he says. "Imagine you're an electrician, you're installing a conduit pipe and have to bend around the corners to make everything line up. It's the kind of work that requires improvisation and adaptation. It can never be reduced to following set procedures." Not only that, the earning potential for a tradesman is greater than in many office jobs. For instance, a skilled mechanic is likely to earn more than a sociology graduate working in publishing, he argues. Not everything about manual work is rosy. He warns that furniture making is not a good career move - Ikea can undercut you by employing workers in China for a fraction of the price. But a range of trades that need to be done on site cannot be outsourced to low wage economies. After new year introspection, January and February are traditionally one of the busiest periods for moving jobs. Mr Crawford believes doing a trade can make you happier. 'Middle-class paradox' "It offers small moments of confirmation, like when the bike you're mending starts up and runs. Small satisfactions like that can be elusive at a huge organisation with vast layers of management, where the criteria by which you're measured are ambiguous." The Times columnist Giles Coren recently tried working with his hands for the BBC Two show Giles and Sue Live the Good Life. Despite his on-screen schtick of appearing to hate everything the duo are asked to do, he fell in love with it. "I found chasing the chickens and weeding the allotment immensely satisfying," he says. "The pain... was making the television show." He agrees with Mr Crawford that modern life has been blighted by a series of alienating processes, often carried out on mobile phone, laptop and e-mail. In this way, his chosen career - journalism - has been stripped of its sense of adventure and human contact. "Even 15 years ago when I started as a reporter, you left the office to do a story. You went to investigate, visited people and used the cuttings library. Now I just sit... and Google. It's terrible, I wish I was a fireman." Despite his columnist's salary, he is jealous of those whose jobs have a clear purpose like the gardener and cleaner. "My gardener Brian comes in to do the garden every two weeks. He takes his shirt off in the summer and smokes a rollie. I can see him through the window, but I'm sitting indoors, staring at the screen to pay for this guy - it's the classic middle-class paradox." Rory Sutherland, vice-chairman of advertising firm Ogilvy UK, agrees that working with your hands does offer greater satisfaction in the short term. But manual workers lack something many of us crave - influence. Jobs like advertising where you "work with your head" may seem futile, but the ideas they come up with really do change the world, he says. "Five years ago someone worked out that you could have one size lid for the three different sizes of coffee cup that cafes have. Ok, it's emphatically not the cure for cancer, but it's through millions of little ideas like this that we get richer as a society." Perception of value Television dramas like Mad Men depict the office to be a place of invigorating competition, sexual tension and creativity. However stylised the portrayal, Mr Sutherland says there is a definite buzz to working around like-minded people - one that tradesmen miss out on. "People partly enjoy work because it's social, but working with your hands can be lonely." And he believes that experienced trades people are often economically undervalued due to the perverse way that consumers ascribe worth. He cites the behavioural economist Dan Ariely's story about a locksmith. As a young apprentice, the tradesman used to take half an hour to mend a lock, at which point he'd be thanked wholeheartedly and given a tip. When he became more experienced, the locksmith could fix a similar problem in a minute. He charged the same rate and completed the job much faster. But instead of being pleased at his speed, customers complained about his rates and refused to tip him. "It's about our perception of value." And in this respect the skilled tradesman will often struggle, he says. In the course of researching his book The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work, Alain de Botton concludes that we all want to make a difference in our job, however banal that change may be. "At the end of the working day we want to feel we've left the planet slightly healthier, tidier, saner than it was at the beginning," he says. "I'm not necessarily talking of huge changes - the difference might merely involve sanding a stair banister, removing the squeak on a door or reuniting someone with their lost luggage." And yet, it is a mistake to romanticise working with your hands, he warns. "At heart, what you're talking about is the charm of craft work. And it's my sense this can happen in places far removed from the workshop. If you're writing computer code you are in a sense displaying many of the same skills as a craftsperson, even if the finished product can't be held or touched." But following the financial crisis, Mr de Botton says attitudes to all types of work may be changing. He detects a move away from the middle-class idea that work lies "at the heart of our self-fulfillment", to the working-class view of employment as a means of feeding yourself and your family. So maybe job satisfaction is slipping down the list of what is important when it comes to work.

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The Rock 1000

Well the biggest rock countdown finished on friday the countdown takes 100 hours over 10 days see if you can find your favourite songs sorry Dj rock only so you wont find your songs here# Artist Song 1 Metallica One 2 AC/DC Thunderstruck 3 Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven 4 Metallica Enter Sandman 5 AC/DC Back 'n Black 6 Foo Fighters Everlong 7 Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit 8 Metallica Nothing Else Matters 9 Guns 'N' Roses November Rain 10 Rage Against The Machine Killing In The Name 11 Guns 'N' Roses Sweet Child 'O Mine 12 Foo Fighters All My Life 13 Shihad Home Again 14 Motorhead Ace Of Spades 15 Pearl Jam Betterman 16 Guns 'N' Roses Paradise City 17 Pearl Jam Alive 18 Pink Floyd Comfortably Numb 19 Pearl Jam Black 20 Tool Sober 21 Metallica Fade to Black 22 Queen Bohemian Rhapsody 23 Kings of Leon Sex on Fire 24 Metallica The Unforgiven 25 Green Day 21 Guns 26 Pink Floyd Another Brick In The Wall 27 Blindspott Nil By Mouth 28 Pearl Jam Daughter 29 Tool Stinkfist 30 Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here 31 Metallica Master of Puppets 32 Shihad Pacifier 33 AC/DC Highway To Hell 34 Metallica Whiskey In The Jar 35 Bon Jovi Living on A Prayer 36 System of a Down Chop Suey 37 Eagles, The Hotel California 38 Live Lightning Crashes 39 Black Sabbath War Pigs 40 Smashing Pumpkins 1979 41 AC/DC Hells Bells 42 Foo Fighters Best of You 43 Jimi Hendrix All Along The Watchtower 44 Guns 'N' Roses Welcome to the Jungle 45 AC/DC You Shook Me All Night Long 46 System of a Down Aerials 47 Metallica The Unforgiven II 48 Foo Fighters Monkey Wrench 49 Foo Fighters My Hero 50 Meatloaf Bat Outta Hell 51 Rage Against The Machine Bomb Track 52 AC/DC T.N.T 53 Pearl Jam The Fixer 54 Iron Maiden Number of the Beast 55 Red Hot Chili Peppers Under The Bridge 56 Black Sabbath Paranoid 57 Green Day American Idiot 58 Guns 'N' Roses Civil War 59 Rage Against The Machine Know Your Enemy 60 Ozzy Osbourne Mama I'm Coming Home 61 Blindspott Phlex 62 Nirvana Lithium 63 Audioslave Like A Stone 64 Pink Floyd Shine On You Crazy Diamond 65 Sublime Santeria 66 Led Zeppelin Kashmir 67 Bush Glycerine 68 Metallica Sad But True 69 Rolling Stones Paint It Black 70 Soundgarden Blackhole Sun 71 Audioslave Cochise 72 Beatles, The Come Together 73 Smashing Pumpkins Bullet With Butterfly Wings 74 Radiohead Creep 75 Led Zeppelin Black Dog 76 Nirvana Come As You Are 77 Alice Cooper Poison 78 Red Hot Chili Peppers Californication 79 Pearl Jam Jeremy 80 Foo Fighters Learn To Fly 81 Dire Straits Money For Nothing 82 Metallica Sanitarium 83 Rise Against Hero Of War 84 Pearl Jam Black 85 Foo Fighters Let It Die 86 Iron Maiden Run To The Hills 87 Alice In Chains Would? 88 Guns 'N' Roses Patience 89 Linkin Park New Divide 90 AC/DC Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap 91 Shihad Run 92 Lynard Skynard Free Bird 93 System of a Down B.Y.O.B 94 Skid Row 18 and Life 95 AC/DC Rock n Roll Train 96 Def Leppard Pour Some Sugar on Me 97 Shihad My Minds Sedate 98 Who, The Baba O' Reily 99 Faith No More Epic 100 John Lennon Imagine 101 Sublime What I've Got 102 Led Zeppelin Whole Lotta Love 103 Guns 'N' Roses Don't Cry 104 Linkin Park One Step Closer 105 Ozzy Osbourne No More Tears 106 Niravana About a Girl 107 Queen We Will Rock You 108 Poison Every Rose Has It's Thorn 109 Split Enz I Got You 110 Pearl Jam Elderley Woman Behind a Counter in a Samll Town 111 Aerosmith Walk This Way 112 Live I Alone 113 Who, The Won't Get Fooled Again 114 Green Day Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) 115 Th' Dudes Bliss 116 Disturbed Down With The Sickness 117 Cranberries, The Zombie 118 Iron Maiden The Trooper 119 Cult, The Fire Woman 120 Pearl Jam Release Me 121 Pink Floyd Young Lust 122 Guns 'N' Roses You Could Be Mine 123 Violent Femmes Blister In The Sun 124 Pearl Jam Even Flow 125 Def Leppard Armageddon It 126 Spiderbait Black Betty 127 Aerosmith Love in An Elevator 128 Offspring, The Self Esteem 129 Silverchair Tomorrow 130 Supergroove Sitting Inside My Head 131 Linkin Park Crawling 132 U2 With Or Without You 133 Foo Fighters The Pretender 134 Deep Purple Smoke on the Water 135 Linkin Park In The End 136 Aerosmith Dream On 137 Audioslave Original Fire 138 Bon Jovi Wanted Dead Or Alive 139 Kings Of Leon Use Somebody 140 Pink Floyd Run Like Hell 141 Queens of the Stone Age No one Knows 142 Fleetwood Mac Go Your Own Way 143 Opshop Maybe 144 Split Enz I See Red 145 Green Day When I Come Around 146 Metallica Hero of the Day 147 Offspring, The Come Out and Play 148 Rolling Stones Start Me Up 149 Verve, The Bittersweet Symphony 150 Iron Maiden Can I Play With Madness 151 Bob Dylan Hurricane 152 Rammstein Du Hast 153 Ben Harper Ground On Down 154 Shihad The General Electric 155 Nirvana Lake of Fire 156 Filter Hey Man Nice Shot 157 Red Hot Chili Peppers Scar Tissue 158 Eric Clapton I Shot The Sheirff 159 Feelers, The Venus 160 Queen We Are The Champions 161 Collective Soul Shine 162 Disturbed Inside the Fire 163 Bush Comedown 164 Jimi Hendrix Voodoo Chile 165 POD Alive 166 Steppenwolf Born To Be Wild 167 Marcy Playground Sex and Candy 168 Thin Lizzy The Boys Are Back In Town 169 U2 One Tree Hill 170 Stone Temple Pilots Plush 171 Jimi Hendrix Hey Joe 172 Stone Temple Pilots Interstate Love Song 173 Motley Crue Dr. Feelgood 174 Pearl Jam Yellow Ledbetter 175 Mick Jagger Hard Woman 176 Staind Outside 177 Talking Heads Psycho Killer 178 Shihad Everything 179 Midnight Oil Beds Are Burning 180 Red Hot Chili Peppers By The Way 181 Rolling Stones Sympathy for the Devil 182 Linkin Park What I've Done 183 U2 I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For 184 Shihad Comfort Me 185 Everlast/Sanata Put Your Lights On 186 Live Selling The Drama 187 Led Zeppelin Ramble On 188 Radiohead Karma Police 189 Nickelback How You Remind Me 190 Pink Floyd Learning to Fly 191 Elemeno P Verona 192 Cult, The Sweet Soul Sister 193 Metallica Until It Sleeps 194 White Stripes Seven Nation Army 195 Ozzy Osbourne Close My Eyes Forever 196 Drowning Pool Bodies 197 Dave Dobbyn Whaling 198 7 Mary 3 Cumbersome 199 Dragon April Sun In Cuba 200 Disturbed Land Of Confusion 201 Aerosmith Janies Got A Gun 202 Blur Song 2 203 Bruce Springsteen Born In The USA 204 Red Hot Chili Peppers My Friends 205 Rage Against The Machine Bulls on Parade 206 Eric Clapton Cocaine 207 Guns 'N' Roses Mr Brownstone 208 Feelers, The Pressure Man 209 Pink Floyd Hey You 210 Creed My Own Prison 211 Chris Cornell Bill Jean 212 AC/DC Are You Ready 213 Marilyn Manson The Beautiful People 214 Steve Earle Copperhead Road 215 Billy Talent Rusted From The Rain 216 Bon Jovi You Give Love A Bad Name 217 Foo Fighters Times Like These 218 Faith No More From Out Of Nowhere 219 Hello Sailor Gutter Black 220 Green Day Basket Case 221 Def Leppard Animal 222 Pearl Jam Last Kiss 223 Korn Freak On A Leash 224 Billy Idol Rebel Yell 225 Metallica The Memory Remains 226 Doors, The Riders on the Storm 227 Red Hot Chili Peppers Give It Away 228 Beatles, The Get Back 229 Red Hot Chili Peppers Higher Ground 230 George Thorogood One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer 231 Faith No More Evidence 232 Iron Maiden Wasted Years 233 Oasis Wonderwall 234 Clash, The London Calling 235 Smashing Pumpkins Today 236 Led Zeppelin Rock n Roll 237 System of a Down Lonely day 238 Living End White Noise 239 Jimi Hendrix Purple Haze 240 Incubus Megalomaniac 241 Collective Soul December 242 Blink 182 All The Small Things 243 Beatles Revolution 244 Airbourne Diamond in the Rough 245 Green Day Jesus of Suburbia 246 Tool Forty Six and Two 247 Jimmy Barnes Working Class Man 248 Puddle of Mudd Blurry 249 Men At Work Down Under 250 Foo Fighters End Over End 251 INXS What You Need 252 Live Lakinis Juice 253 Living Colour Cult of Personality 254 Lynard Skynard Sweet Home Alabama 255 Green Day Welcome To Paradise 256 Ozzy Osbourne Crazy Train 257 Matchbox 20 3am 258 Megadeth Symphony of Destruction 259 Nirvana In Bloom 260 Elemeno P Fast Times In Tahoe 261 Metallica No Leaf Clover 262 Mutton Birds Dominion Road 263 Muse Plug In Baby 264 Motley Crue Girls Girls Girls 265 Live The Dolphins Cry 266 Pink Floyd Time 267 Pearl Jam Worldwide Suicide 268 Ozzy Osbourne Bark At The Moon 269 Doors, The The End 270 POD Boom 271 U2 Elevation 272 Rolling Stones Satisfaction 273 Pearl Jam Animal 274 Everclear Santa Monica 275 Dave Dobbyn Slice of Heaven 276 AC/DC For Those About To Rock 277 Audioslave I Am The Highway 278 Bush Everything Zen 279 Skid Row I Remember You 280 Red Hot Chili Peppers Dani California 281 Faith No More Last Cup of Sorrow 282 Aerosmith Sweet Emotion 283 Kings of Leon Fans 284 U2 Where The Streets Have No Name 285 Eskimo Joe Black Fingernails, Red Wine 286 Exponents Why Does Love Do This To Me 287 Incubus Nice To Know You 288 Guns 'N' Roses Estranged 289 Police Roxanne 290 Feelers, The Larger Than Life 291 Supergroove Can't Get Enough 292 Foo Fighters Long Road To Ruin 293 Led Zeppelin Over the Hills and Far Away 294 Marilyn Manson I Don't Like The Drugs 295 Nirvana The Man Who Sold The World 296 Pink Floyd On The Turning Away 297 Pearl Jam I Got ID 298 Papa Roach Last Resort 299 Led Zeppelin Dazed and Confused 300 Grinspoon Lost Control 301 Cold Chisel Cheap Wine 302 Feelers, The The Fear 303 Pearl Jam Not For You 304 Pink Floyd Money 305 Shihad Bulletproof 306 U2 Pride 307 Guns 'N' Roses Knocking on Heavens Door 308 Puddle of Mudd She Hates Me 309 Soundgarden Blow Up The Outside World 310 Deep Purple Black Knight 311 Alice In Chains Man In The Box 312 David Bowie Space Oddity 313 Killers, The Somebody Told Me 314 Queen Another One Bites The Dust 315 Eve 6 Inside Out 316 Guns 'N' Roses Live and Let Die 317 Nickelback Something In Your Mouth 318 AC/DC It's A Long Way To The Top 319 Kings of Leon On Call 320 Lou Reed Walk on the wild side 321 Nirvana Heart Shaped Box 322 Foo Fighters Big Me 323 Icehouse Great Southern Land 324 Cult, The Edie 325 Stonesour Through Glass 326 Ozzy Osbourne I Just Want You 327 Opshop No Ordinary Thing 328 Don Henley The Boys of Summer 329 Nickelback Figured You Out 330 Jimi Hendrix Foxy Lady 331 Pearl Jam State of Love and Trust 332 Verve, The The Drugs Don't Work 333 Swingers, The Counting The Beat 334 Kid Rock Bawitaba 335 Whitesnake Here I Go Again 336 Soundgarden Fell On Black Days 337 Smashing Pumpkins Disarm 338 Aerosmith What It Takes 339 U2 Angel of Harlem 340 Motley Crue Smokin In The Boys Room 341 Velvet Revolver Fall To Pieces 342 Bob Dylan Jokerman 343 Blindspott Yours Truly 344 Alice Cooper Only Woman Bleed 345 Metallica Fuel 346 Bryan Adams Summer of 69 347 Incubus Are You In 348 Cult, The Wild Flower 349 Supergroove You Gotta Know 350 Linkin Park From the inside 351 Exponents Erotic 352 AC/DC Who Made Who 353 Mutton Birds Anchor Me 354 Green Day Hitchin A Ride 355 Headless Chickens George 356 U2 All I Want Is You 357 Soundgarden Spoonman 358 Twisted Sister We're Not Gonna Take It 359 Rolling Stones Wild Horses 360 Weezer Say It Ain't So 361 Bruce Springsteen The River 362 Candlebox Far Behind 363 Dave Dobbyn Loyal 364 Green Day Know Your Enemy 365 U2 One 366 U2 Desire 367 Pluto Dance Stamina 368 Metallica The Day That Never Comes 369 George Thorogood Bad To The Bone 370 Kid Rock All Summer Long 371 Neil Young My My Hey hey 372 Nickelback Photograph 373 U2 Sunday Bloody Sunday 374 Powderfinger My Happiness 375 Supergroove Scorpio Girls 376 Collective Soul The World I Know 377 Breaking Benjamin Diary of Jane 378 AC/DC Rock n Roll Ain't Noise Pollution 379 Blink 182 Dammit 380 Led Zeppelin All Of My Love 381 Foo Fighters D.O.A. 382 Hello Sailor Blue Lady 383 Faith No More Easy 384 Meatloaf Paradise By The Dash…. 385 Linkin Park Breaking the habit 386 Def Leppard Lets Get Rocked 387 Disturbed Prayer 388 Phil Collins In The Air Tonight 389 Staind It's Been A While 390 Van Halen You Really Got Me 391 Metallica Turn The Page 392 Rolling Stones Angie 393 Soundgarden Burden in My Hand 394 Shihad Wait and See 395 Who, The Who Are You 396 Red Hot Chili Peppers Otherside 397 Doors, The Roadhouse Blues 398 U2 Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses 399 Faith No More Ashes To Ashes 400 3 Doors Down Kryptonite 401 Alice In Chains Rooster 402 Cold Chisel Bow River 403 Grinspoon Chemical Heart 404 Janes Addiction Been Caught Stealing 405 Nickelback Never Again 406 Clash, The Should I Stay 407 Feelers, The Anniversary 408 Zodiac Mindwarp Prime Mover 409 Led Zeppelin Houses of The Holy 410 Powderfinger On My Mind 411 U2 Even Better Than The Real Thing 412 Pearl Jam In Hiding 413 Bon Jovi Bad Medicine 414 Buckcherry Lit Up 415 Red Hot Chili Peppers Soul To Squeeze 416 Midnight Oil Power and The Passion 417 Scars On Broadway They Say 418 U2 Mysterious Ways 419 Foo Fighters Breakout 420 Gary Moore/Phil Lynott Out in the fields 421 Nirvana All Apologies 422 Sublime Wrong Way 423 Split Enz History Never Repeats 424 Shihad Alive 425 Doors, The LA Woman 426 Metallica King Nothing 427 Led Zeppelin The Song Remains The Same 428 Fuel Haemmorhage 429 Jeff Healy Band While My Guitar Gently Weaps 430 Kooks, The Niave 431 Cult, The Wild Hearted Son 432 Rolling Stones 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The little moonshiner....

Found an old topic that someone reactivated with a reply, so I though I do a new one to make it easier. "Moonshine" can be as tasty as any good spirit from the shops. I have done a few liters back in my days... There are a few things to consider right from the start though. What type of sugar is used, e.g. fruits, corn, wheat, potatoes or plain sugar and water. Equally important is the yeast, some prefer natural fermantation, others use baker's yeast, most prefer dedicated yeasts for wine. Even the water used plays a role in the final taste!Hygine is another thing that many people overlook or neglect. Anything that can grow in a warm and sweet enviroment will grow rapidly! That means if your yeast is not good or fast enough, other cultures can take over and sometimes totally change the outcome and quality. In some cases, like with fruits to the better but usually to the worse. Imagine you want to bake a nice cake with vanilla in it. But since your vanilla stick is already quite old and you stored it together with your garden herbs in one jar.... You get the idea of taste I hope ;) Just go from start to finnish like you would prepare chicken meat together with fish - keep it clean, keep it healthy.The still.... Now, if you trust some old blokes doing moonshine since they were kids then it all sounds so easy. But for the hobby brewer there are now tons of options available. Basic pot stills you can put on your stove, electric ones that are basically just an electric boiler with a cooling tube, tower models with several levels of control or the good old "reflux" still in copper. Why is it important to know your way around stills? Again, if you ask a cook then he will tell you why he uses a certain pot for certain dishes or why he won't work with certain materials. Sometimes it is for taste or ease of handling, often just preference. Lets check the main differences in material. We have the modern stainless steel and the classic copper. Stainless steel is easy to clean, won't affect the taste and won't cause any chemical reactions that would alter the taste of your product. That is true only if you trust the manufacturers ;) To compensate for the problems I will explain in a bit they use all sorts of gadgets. I call them brewing helpers and explain them in a bit. Copper on the other hand is now quite expensive and also deemed to be a pain to clean and sanitise. To be honest: how hard it is to clean a still only depends on the design. If you can seperate it into nice straight pieces with good access you can clean anything. But copper was and still is the prefered option for drinking vessels and cookware in a lot of cultures - and it is coming back into our kitchens now as well. Why is that then? Copper has natural sanitising abilities but also reacts with a lot of chemicals. And since copper is considered to be a "good" metal, these reactions usually happen only directly on the copper. Meaning all reaction products stay on the copper as well. Work with fruits or potatoes and a copper still can look dark black and really ugly when done. Do the same in a steel still and then compare the taste ;) Copper produces a far better taste! Especially sufur based compounds react strongly with the copper but also anything causing bad smells or tastes is reduced big time. To flux, reflux not not to flux at all!? A basic still heats the mesh to a set temperature, a cooling coil or similar lets the steam condensate and the alcohol (and everything else) drips out. More complex models have a more tower like appearance and with that allow for a better temperature control. Here the steam will cool down in the tower and at the right height you have the outlet. Brings a much more refined product. The best is still the reflux still however. Here the steam is allowed to travel further and cool down completely. Only a fraction is allowed to come out while the rest runs back down into the heated pot. From first to last model the quality, taste and purity improve. Lets take a closer look on what actually happens inside a still:Once the mix is hot enough that something can turn into a vapor or gas form it will try to escape. That is why we usually discard the first "head" coming out - it contains the most methanol for starters but also the worst of tastes. Again more on heads and tails later ;)In a simple still all steam produced is now turned back into a liquid.One reason why the alcohol concentrations is quite low, around 40%.But also the reason for the low quality taste that can happen.Even with a generous amount of head removed literally everything that is in the opt ends up in the spirit.A good temperature control is a must have and the less deviation the better.And as with all pots running low, once you are low enough all impurities left in your mesh will be concentrated.If the bottom now gets too hot they release unwanted tastes...We skip the tower models and go right to the reflux as the later is just better and includes all there is to say about the tower models anyway.At least on a hobby level a reflux still already starts with a quite tall boiling vessel.It just allows a better and more evenly heating of the mesh inside.While the bottom part is hotter than the top currents form that constantly mix what is inside.The heat is controlled so there is no real boiling, in the best option so that no part of the pot will go over 85° C.When all is hot enough so the first alcohol could run out the system is actually still closed.All vapour has to run back down the tower - which is why some towers even come with cooling fins...As a result all things with a low boiling point will stay in the tower as vapor and once the still is opened they come out first.The heads can be much smaller then too ;)Since the outlet is set at a suitable height and is naturally cooler than the steam, a lot of steam will condense above the outlet.Much more below it and only a fraction is collected to run to the outlet.That means that once the system has reached stable temps throughout that the tower is filled with ethanol vapour only.And since it is constantly re-boiled and runs back down and up all that comes out is already at quite high concentrations.With a good setup as high as 95% vol.It also means that you can have a great level of control about what exactly ends in your ethanol.Depending on how high the outlet is located a different amount of things that can either bond with ethanol or have a similar boiling temperature will be collected.Sole reason why most simple pot stills are designed to work with sugar and clean water only...When working with fruits as a base you often want quite a lot of the flavours and tastes preserved.Only experience and trying will get you tot he sweet spot where the alcohol content is just right and all wanted flavours are included.Go too high with your quality and the alcohol is too pure, go too low and the taste is bad...Which of course brings us back to why you should take your time before the cooking starts!I know far too many people who have no patience when it comes to the end of fermantation.Some yeast might be still active, far too much sugar left over in the mesh or just not enough care in general...You want most if not all of the sugar gone and used.What is not dead in terms of yeast needs to be dormant due to the alcohol concentration.And that can be the tricky part already!You see, once yeast dies off quickly due to the alcohol only the strong survive.In some cases, especially if you re-use your leftovers often, these few can still be active at over 20% of alcohol volume in the mix.The best option is to have a spare fridge and to put the entire container or drum in there.Let it sit cold for a few days, the yeast goes dormant, all sediments settly down to the bottom as no CO2 is produced anymore.Once all is really nice and clear use a hose or similar to remove the clear content only!Be careful here and once the levels are low use a seperate container to drain off!Take out what you can and if in doubt let what you take settle again for a day or two.Doing this time consuming step will make sure you only boil up what brings you the good stuff.On the other hand, when using potatoes, fruits or such you might have to press the liquid out and and add that to what you drained off already.I prefer to do this first and just put it back into the big drum again to let it all settle together.Ok, you only use sugar anyway but what comes out just does not taste or smell right...Would also mean you only use a basic still...As mentioned before the heads are what contains all the nasties.There are ways to actually measure if there is methanol present but for what we do now this is not so important.When the dripping start use shot glasses or such to catch it.Preferably while watching it ;)Smell what it is the glass when you put the next one under.The first glass should smell quite bad anyways.Quickly the smell in the glasses will change to something more "pure" and alcohol like - now start collecting for use.With a simple but good controlled still you will see the flow increases and levels out at some point.When the volume starts to go down your tails start.It is good practise to now use a seperate collecting vessel for the rest until what comes to fully discard.At some point you will notice the difference between just enough and really good temperature control.In a really good system the flow will go down to a slow drip or even stop.While in a dirt simple one the flow will just slow down for a while and then suddenly start running again.This running happens when the remainig water starts boiling...Keep smelling what comes out and once the taste or smell changes noticably again use a different container to collet what comes out. - This is you first tail collection.What comes out until the smell and taste go bad is your second tail collection - now you can turn your still off for a while.Let all what you collected cool down to room temperature is not already.Check what you collected from the heads, helps to have small jars for this ;)From start to last the smell should get better.If the last two or three collections smeel somehow interesting then add them to your main collection.Smell the first tail collection again - it should not be that bad anymore, especially if you let it cool down slightly open.Especially when working with fruits you might to add quite a bit of this to your main collection.If only sugar was used just move on to the last tail collection.In case you still don't like the smell mix the tail collection together and keep in a seperate and sealed vessel.Those tail collections can then later be used to destill them again (with more tails from other runs) to get a decent cleaning alcohol or something that might still be worth adding in small amounts for a better overall taste.However for sugar only mixes it can be considered to be for cleaning purposes only.What you have now is little waste and a lot of almost good alcohol.It still contains more or less amounts of unwanted things that mainly come from the yeast and their by-products.To "clean" you alcohol the best option is to destill it again - it will also increase the concentration quite a bit.Best option here is to use properly filtered and prefeably demineralised water to get back to a full fill of the still.If your still is quite small and what you collected would make for one or two full fills then go for it.Be warned though that you should not fill it up to the full mark, a bit under is better as the mix now will boil far quicker and more violent.Personally I prefer to have the alcohol conectration in the still at around 205% only.As we already discarded the worst of the worst in the heads during our first run only a tiny amount, like half a shot glass should be too bad in terms of taste and smell.Whatever comes after shall be fine.Again, once the tails start try to be carefull and if you can slow things down a notch.You will see a quite destinct reduction in the flow rate once the tails start - use a new container right away.The alcohol concentration should now drop quickly too as another indicator.If you want just pure tasting alcohol add what you comes out from this point to your tails container for later use as you don't want to drink it.Again, for fruits and potatoes you might want to keep the first bit of the collected tails.You alcohol concentration should now be already over 75% even if a basic still was used.The overall volume you collected will be lower accordingly of course - so don't be too disappointed by the liters you got from the second run.In a perfect world you now would use some nice barrel and let your creation age...But since we do moonshine...There is a chance that even after two runs you still taste and smell things you don't want or like.So if in doubt do it all again and get to 90 or more percent...Either way the final stuff should be now either watered down (filtered and clean of course) to the desired level.How to further improve on the outcome....There are little helpers along the way to get far bette results than without using them.If you check ready to go kits then they often contain specialised yest strains, a carbon mix and some "clearing aids".The yeast part is obvious, although I do prefer life prt wine yeast anyway.Carbon or activated charcoal is used to bind some of the bad odors and tastes the yeast produces.Keep in mind they are designed to work together, unlike using proper wine making cultures.Using power yeasts without carbon always results in a low quality.The clearing aids actually change the acidity levels and cause some things to mineralise or otherwise change so they settle to the ground.But they mainly make sure the yeast is dead.If you only use sugar then these kits are your easiest option and just follow their instructions.For fruits or anything else however you might want to try the slow route and use actual wine making yeasts for a change ;)And of course here we do not use carbon at all as we actually want to keep the taste of waht we use.We already had the proper way of getting the mesh to settle down, so that bit is clear.For sugar only you can now try to run your creation through activated charcaol or just add it and mix it.Let it sit and mix again for a few days.You do not need to filter the black stuff out, just drain it carefully and run the last bit through a coffee filter.Nothing will end in your destilled product.Inside the still you can use ceramic bioling thingies of all sorts.They provide a surface for water or mix to boil on instead of just the bottom.If you can't them for a good price then just use the stuff for aquarium filters ;)As said earlier too, copper is good but most modern stills are made from steel.If you can't find any copper wool pot cleaners you can cut some plumbing pipe into small sections.Inside the boiling vessel they will quickly turn brownish black while collecting bad things.Cleaning is easy with some cirtic acid/delimer/coffee machine cleaner...For a tower or reflux still it really helps to have these copper pads or wool inside for a far greater surface area to aid condensation and slow down the run off.I know how hard it is to get the stuff these days so if no other option use stainless steel ones and only loose the benefit of more cleaning through chemical reactions.Tools that come in handy....Monitoring the sugar and alcohol level to know when the mesh is right is quite obvious.What might not be is that you can correct bad level towards the end of fermentation.Yeast already dying slowly but far too much sugar left? Just add luke warm water to lover the alcohol conectration...Yeast going dormant with low alcohol levels? The sugar might be out so chack and if in doubt add some more.A good stir will help the remaining yeast to get more active in a day or two.So these little glass measuring tools should be put to good use from the start.During the destillation a purpose made overflow pipe to hold your alcohol tester is extremly helpful!The destilled liquid goes in through a pipe or hose at the bottom of the pipe.The bottom is closed, the top open to allow to drop the alcohol tester inside.Overflow or outlet should be just under the rim.During your run you can now see directly how the alcohol content changes.It will stabilse once the heads are finnished and get a slight rise just before it drops during the tails section.Improving basic desing of a basic still...Once you are done with a dead simple pot still and buy a reflux or tower model you might wonder why you did not build one yourself.What looked good on the pics and in the shop turns out to be still a bit away from perfect.The outlet might not have any flow control or is located to low/high.The vital overpressure protection might be missing and the thing sometimes runs out like a garden hose...For the later you can slavage some old pressure cooker and use the weight with the screw in counterpart in the lid ;)A simple hole in the top with flat weight on it works too, I used an old rubber plug from my bathtub one (could not find the purpose made one in time).For the outlet you can cheat a bit ;)Wrapping the tower with some insulating material improves on the heat loss - this helps if the still struggles to heat enough to provide a proper flow rate.Cooling the tower with wet towels, running water or similar well help on hot days or if the outlet is located reall high with little chance to provide decent condensation in the lower parts.How to cheat with the barrel....No matter if you just run with sugar or if you prefern corn, wheat, fruits....For some spirits good taste means good age.And well, good age for commercial spirits usually happens by resting in wooden drums.Oak, white oak, red gum and several other types of wood are used.Some small destilleries even use only locally available wood and won't even tell you which tree it was...Means we have a few chocices if we don't want to stick to the well known classics.But how do we make a barrel ?A good one is not just made from any old wood - the wood needs to be of the right age and moisture.To keep it simple just treat it like your firewood and let it rest for the same time.A good barrel is often "charred" - burnt with a flame or by rolling it with burning charcoal inside.This does two imortant things:1: It provides charcoal to bind remaining bad stuff.2: It releases some sugars from the wood plus resins and othe stuff.Both are an essential part of the final product and aging process!Now it becomes clear why a good sprit cost more than vodka...Using a neutral vessel like glass to age your spirit is one thing, preparing the wood the right way another...You see, size matters here in several ways.Big chunks provide a decent surface are without causing too much debris.The also provide more tannins for the color and more resins and sugar.Smaller chunks provide more charcaol for a higher level or binding impurities.But both will soak up far more alcohol than the correspong barrel size would!Obviously, if you are on a small scale on only got about 5 liters of alcohol to deal with loosing much is bad.The best way to char the wood IMHO is inside a clsed can or steel box.Just a small vent hole and a lot of turning with the right eye for when the wood is charred enough to be black and sealed.Opinions vary here but I use about a cup full of wood per 5 liters of alcohol at around 93% vol.Some goes for the storage, apart from dark some can't really agree here.Tossing and turning is as much prefered as undisturbed resting - take your own pick.The thig I do differently after the filtering off is to re-use the wood that is soaked.It goes into a freezer bag until the next run of the still and then the frozen wood is just added to the second still run to get back the alcohol in it, plus some nice taste and smell :)

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