soduim acetate

Could someone please help me and my son? we are doing the hot ice for his school science fair project..I'm unsure how long to boil the baking soda & vinegar...what color should it be? after we filtered it it was clear again...is this right? Please please help...this is our last weekend to try!!

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Sodium Acetate Trihydrate or Sodium Acetate ANHYDROUS

I am dying to try the hot ice experiment but i was wondering witch of these 2 chemicals is the write one ??? Sodium Acetate Trihydrate or Sodium Acetate ANHYDROUS . Any help would be great. thanks

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recipe for sulfuric acetate?

Need recipe of how to make sulfuric acetate

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Rayon acetate velvet

Hello, I would like to know if anybody knows where I can buy rayon acetate velvet to do the stamping on. I have looked on line for some time and cannot find that type of velvet to buy. If anybody knows where I can buy this velvet please let me know . thank you, Tina 

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how to make sodium acetate?

Making hot ice for science project, need to find sodium acetate. what store, not internet can I purchase, or how do I make it?

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Whats the fastest way to make lead acetate? Answered

Hello, ive just tried to make lead acetate by putting lead into a mix of lead metal, acetic acid, and hydrogen peroxide, but nothing has happened , the hydrogen peroxide just decomposed by the lead, and then the solution because all frothy and grey. i understand now that lead dissolves very slowly in acetic acid. is there a faster way to make lead acetate?Ive been looking online , and nowhere does it say how long it takes to make, aside from one place that says it makes 30g per year! using just lead and vinegar. also, would electrolysis work? using two lead electrodes? i managed to make copper acetate of a high concentration (solution turned very deep blue), would the same work with lead? ir would it just make HHO?

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in need of a clear thermoplastic

Hi :) Im looking for a thermoplastic which stays clear, and becomes pliable in hot water to then use to mould , i believe it comes in round sheets. I have been told that it is acetate,although I’m not sure about this now, and that it comes in sheets, anyone got any ideas?  thanks 

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NIckel Acetate Creation from Nickel II Oxide for Nickel Plating

Chemistry question here.  I wanted to play around with some nickel plating, and I started to follow a popular recipe that I saw on YouTube.  It started with Nickel II Oxide, placed in a malt vinegar for a week to create a solution of Nickel Acetate that you could then use as a bath to plate things with Nickel.  I purchased 100 grams of 99% grade Nickel II Oxide, and let it sit in 2L of vinegar for a long time.  After 2 weeks there's no hint of the emerald green Nickel Acetate.  So I purchased some glacial Acetic Acid, and added it to a liter of distilled water to make a 50% weight solution of Acetic Acid to make a stronger solution, and still a week later nothing green.  Solution is in a clean glass vessel.  A local chemist at work said it would be slow, but man, this is taking forever.  What am I doing wrong, or what could I do different? I know Ni Acetate can be achieved with pure nickel and electricity in vinegar, but I really want to try to convert the nickel oxide. 

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How to treat acetate (transparency film) to avoid ink from chipping

Hey y'all! I've got an odd issue with some transparency film that I'm sure one of you will be able to help me solve! I have a book of prints which I've been inkjet printing on to acetate. It's a lovely book, but the issue I keep running into is that the ink will rub off should someone or something happen to scratch the "wet" side of any of the prints. The prints also gather dust on this side, which after a while makes for a very dusty book! Does anyone have any idea of a treatment method (maybe a spray or a varnish) that would seal in the ink, protecting the prints from dust and scratches? I realize I could just print it on another type of photo paper and probably not have this issue, but I'd like the prints to be translucent (it creates a layering effect that's important to the finished book). Any suggestions gladly welcomed! Best, M

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What mixed with sodium acetate?

Will make a gel like substance that is flammable but the person using it doent get burned ?

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is there more easy way to make sodium acetate?

Is there a 3 easy steps to make a sodium acetate than 6 steps??

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sodium production

Another way for sodium production heared some where that molten sodium acetate  produces sodium metal, carbon dioxide and ethane Sodium Acetate baking soda and vinagar melting it and doing electrolysis to make sodium Melting point 324 °C, 615.2 °F (anhydrous)<(no water)> 58 °C (trihydrate) still has water Sodium Hydroxide Melting point 318 °C, 591 K, 604 °F ive made sodium with lye very useful thanks alot to this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL1cKb3_ojE message back on what you think

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how to make sodium metal from sodium acetate?

Electrolysis of sodium hydroxide to make sodium http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL1cKb3_ojE video showing sodium being made a diagram of how it works http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castner_process heared some where that sodium acetate molten (with no water) produces sodium metal, carbon dioxide and ethane Sodium Acetate  Melting point 324 °C, 615.2 °F (anhydrous)<(no water)>  58 °C (trihydrate) still has water baking soda and vinagar   Sodium Hydroxide Melting point 318 °C, 591 K, 604 °F

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How to make hot ice with sodium acetate?

Using 100 gram bottles of sodium acetate and boiling into water to water can't handle any more crystals. Then I pour into a glass and cool off in fridge, then pouring into another container to try to get the "freezing" effect but nothing happens. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong? 

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Refining Gold Using Vinegar (Acetic Acid)?

Though I've never refined gold, I've heard of gold refining using different acids. I've seen people use vinegar and salt to etch pcb boards. I'm wondering if anyone knows how to refine gold using vinegar so that I can remove it from ram sticks etc.

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HCl obtention from bleach and acetic acid (vinegar).

I have always been curious to know if it is possible to obtain hydrochloric acid (HCl) from chlorine-based bleach and acetic acid (vinegar). I found a lot of answers saying that it was impossible and dangerous because you wouldn't obtain HCl; instead, you would get chlorine gas, which is a very dangerous fume that can cost your life. However, I found an answer saying that it was possible to synthesize it, but not directly from bleach. First, you have to mix equal quantities of bleach and acetic acid to obtain hypochlorous acid (HClO) and then you have to add a transition metal oxide (iron oxide, copper oxide, etc.) to get HCl and oxygen gas.  Filled with curiosity and keeping in mind that safety is the priority, I decided to try it out by mixing equal portions of bleach (NaOCl) and acetic acid (C2H4O2), obtaining an aqueous solution of hypochlorous acid (HClO) and sodium acetate (C2H3NaO2).  NaClO + C2H4O2—> HClO + C2H3NaO2 Then, I added copper oxide (rusty pennies) since I know that copper by itself reacts very slowly with HCl, so I could leave it there until the copper oxide had completely reacted with the HClO (leaving clean pennies).  Little but numerous bubbles started to come out which I thought to be the oxygen gas leaving the hypochlorous acid. I waited there until there were no more bubbles coming out which meant that the reaction had finished. To prove that it was HCl, I decided to add Aluminium foil and see if it reacted accordingly. However, nothing happened, so I tried the whole process of mixing bleach and vinegar again but when I got to the part of adding the metal oxide, I did not add copper oxide. Instead, I left it outside in the sun to react since I know that ultraviolet radiation causes fast disproportionation, forming HCl and oxygen gas.   HClO —> HCl + O2 After all the bubbles had finished coming out, I added Aluminium foil to prove that it was HCl. However, noting happened, and again, I obtained the same product as the last time.  I immediately stated to think of possible products that I could have obtained and the reasons why my reaction hadn't worked properly. It was then when I remembered that in the very first reaction (the one of the vinegar and the bleach) I had obtained a side product that I had completely forgotten about; sodium acetate (C2H3NaO2). And I suspect that this side product could have affected the whole process.  And that is my question; was it really the sodium acetate that one that affected the experiment or could have it been something else?

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Is it possible to do body casting with oogoo?

I know that oogoo outgasses acetic acid, how bad is that to have on your skin?  Would it be possible to coat the skin first with something like  liquid glove or baking soda, to counteract the acetic acid? Thanks for any info

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Can the large amount of sodium acetate decrease the stability of the glow of TCPO?

Sir we had made the TCPO by ourselves and we used the dye DAPN(diaminp phenazine) instead of 9,10-bis(phenyethyl) anthracene and use the solvent ethyl acetate for this and procced as your procedure but we didnt't get the glow for minutes.It lasts only for seconds(i.e. 3-5).Is this due to the use of DAPN rather than the use of anthracene? We had made the DAPN with the mixture of OPDA(orthophenylene diamine) with Distilled water and the addition of the HRP(horse radish periooxidase). We had used the amount as: 15 ml of Ethyl Acetate 1gm of Sodium Acetate 3mg of DAPN 3ml of hydrogen Pero-oxide 800mg of TCPO Sir, we are the student of Nepal studying Biomedical Engineering and we are doing our final year project and we need your help in this, as our project is based in the che miluminescece method for the pregnency detector.Please,please sir help us sending your reply.We will be very thankful towards you if you will be kind to us.Eagerly waiting for your reply.?

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Alternative ways to create a one-way mirror?

Hello, I'm creating a video installation with rear-projection. I want the viewer to see his reflection and the projection so I was thinking of half-silvering Mylar or acetate to create a screen. I also thought of mixing aluminum powder with a clear medium and painting it on however, no luck finding that in Canada.  My only issue with silvering the screen is that it is so large (10x5ft) that I don't know how to go about heating it up when I pour the solution over it.  Looking for suggestions for other materials as well as solutions to these issues. Thanks!

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where can you get the materials for hot ice???

On the instructable "hot ice" it sed u need sodium acetate and i dont know where to get it plz tell me!?!?!?!?!

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Printed circuit bards

I was wondering if I can print my circuit design onto acetate and use it to expose my circuit board. Would that work? If not what could I do instead of of ording them for rediculous prices online?

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I have to remove a huge quantity of limescale (ca. 2 ton).

Do anyone knows the better metod? I tried citric acid (some white powder resist), Hydrochloric acid is not possible to use (some parts are in stainless steel...). I was wondering acetic acid or EDTA.

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Safe DIY PCB etchant

Hello out there, I was wondering if anyone knew a safe, homemade PCB etchant other than the vinegar and hydrogen peroxide method. That produces copper (II) acetate and I don't have any use for it other than copper plating, and I suck at electroplating anyways. I would like to find a safe, homemade copper etchant that is easily disposed or can be reused for something.  Thanks, Sam.

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Suggestions for lamp

Hi I'm making a table lamp from the backlight of a broken 15" LCD, possibly putting some sort of an acetate print or photography slides where the LCD was to make it a bit more interesting and diffuse/colour the light.  However I'm stuck on how to house the light and hoping to get a few suggestions here.  Not sure whether I should box frame the whole thing, let the circuit board remain visible but covered (acrylic box) or perhaps put it into some sort of container upcycled however it will ultimately need to stand. How would you do this?  All and any suggests welcome. Thanks in advance Garrett

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Sourcing solvents in michigan

Ok, so I'm having some trouble finding solvents in quantities of under 5 gallons (5 is too much, and  for this project 1 gallon is too) that arent acetone, MEK, or xylene (home depot and lowes carry those). Specifically I need Perchloroethylene because thats the solvent that E6000 glue is made with and is the glue I want to thin out. The datasheet indicates that  1,1,1-Trichloroethane, Cyclohexane, Methylene chloride, Chlorothane NU, Chevron solvent 1100, gasoline, Propyl acetate, or Toluene will also dissolve it, but I'd really like to stick with its manufactured solvent.  I presume it would have some sort of pricey hazmat shipping charges or the necessity of some sort of licence and I would rather pick it up, so where (or who) can I order some from in the Detroit area?

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How 2 build a simple model car wich runs on c02 produced by d reaction between vinegar n baking soda?bt there is a trick

Hi everyone!!..i hv tis competition cuming soon where we muz build a simple chemical car using cheap materials..d chemicals tad we muz use is 3 molar of 40 ml vinegar n 10 gram of baking soda...d car muz travel at least a distance 5 meters caryying a load of 100ml water ..bt d trick is,there muz NOT be  ANY spillage of water or sodium acetate which r also a by-product of d reaction otr ten co2...so any idea??all suggestions will be welcomed happily!!thx..=D

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Model Railway Exhib-Conservatory of Flowers-Mini Landmarks made of Recycled Materials

There is going to be a Model Railway Exhibition at the Conservatory of Flower in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. They turned one of the wings into the largest fantasy Model Railroad layout. Landmarks of San Francisco have been built out of Recycled/Repurposed Materials and placed around the layout. It looks really cool.The Conservatory of Flowers is Recycled Acetate File Folder Tabs, Corrugated Plastic and Chess Pieces for Finials. The Chinatown Gate is out of Mah Jongg Tiles and Dice, Portals of the Past is from Cassette Tapes, the TransAmerica Pyramid had 6000 Computer keys, and Coit Tower has Rulers and Yardsticks. There are more buildings also.November 20, 2008 - April 19, 2009Golden Gate Express ExhibitionThere is a video at the link and you can read a news story about it.Model Railway-Conservatory of FlowersPhotosSan Francisco Chronicle

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Model Railway Exhib - Conservatory of Flowers - Mini SF Landmarks made of Recycled Materials

There is going to be a Model Railway Exhibition at the Conservatory of Flower in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. They turned one of the wings into the largest fantasy Model Railroad layout. Landmarks of San Francisco have been built out of Recycled/Repurposed Materials and placed around the layout. It looks really cool.The Conservatory of Flowers is Recycled Acetate File Folder Tabs, Corrugated Plastic and Chess Pieces for Finials. The Chinatown Gate is out of Mah Jongg Tiles and Dice, Portals of the Past is from Cassette Tapes, the TransAmerica Pyramid had 6000 Computer keys, and Coit Tower has Rulers and Yardsticks. There are more buildings also.November 20, 2008 - April 19, 2009Golden Gate Express ExhibitionThere is a video at the link and you can read a news story about it.Model Railway-Conservatory of FlowersPhotosSan Francisco Chronicle

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Externally Mounted LCD/LED TVs?

I was going to wrap my 1996 Fleetwood Seawind Motorhome and have sponsor spots.  However, I rather hang 55" LED/LCD TVs on both flanks of the beast. The issues as I see them are as follows: How to power the TVs--I think I can cable out the rear windows and run an inverter to provide them with AC--Please give me inverter size sufficient to drive two LCD/LED units Getting a TV signal to the TVS.  Using a Macbook Air, I could use Airplay to stream MP4 video to the TVs, or just hardwire them with HDMI-Lightening connectors.  A hardwire solution is, again, possible via the rear windows. The pivotal engineering riddle is ho to secure, insulate and protect the units on the back end of the vehicle.  I was thinking a sheet of Acetate to cover and protect the faces of the TVs. Input on what form the shock-absorbing, waterproof frame could/should take is welcome.

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Hydrogen gas by combining electron- generating bacteria & small electrical charge...

Hi,Pennsylvania State University researchers last week announced that they have developed a method of producing hydrogen gas by combining electron-generating bacteria, acetic acid and less than .2 volt source in a microbial fuel cell. Info at this URL... http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iXbROJgdF3_6BtG3TZFEs9hiw8CgI first heard about this last week on NPR's Talk of the Nation. Here is NPR link - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16343702&sc;=emafThe researcher who led the project Bruce Logan, the director of the Hydrogen Energy Center there said last week on the show that this was actually a relatively simple process.He claims 90 percent efficiency. Also claimed is that the process produces 288 per cent more energy in hydrogen than the electrical energy that is added to the process.I would love to build one small scale and combine it with solar panels. Or maybe try to generate some hydrogen and try using it as a fuel supplement for my car using something like this - http://www.hydrogen-fuel.ca/ . Anyone willing to tackle this one?

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Group : Collection of Instructables for class-room and teaching purposes ...

Hi !I created a group that seems not to have been ever created here yet."Class-Room" group.The main purpose of this group is to make a collection of every instructables that may be useful for school teaching, and that may be reproduced by pupils or students as science-fair or class-room projects ...Please, add your Instructables if they fit this description._Biology :"Be a Scientist : map your skin"Chemistry :"Carbonating""Kitchen laboratory II : The CO2 trap""Make crystal clear ice !""Make Rheopectic slime in less than 15 minutes !""Shelling a raw egg !""Sodium Acetate"Investigations :"Amazing Kite For Under $5""How to make Playdough (Play-doh)""Oobleck""Pop-Up 3D words and messages !""The Huffin' Hoopster""The Improved CD Hovercraft."Physics : Electricity & Electrostatics :"Build an Electrostatics Motor""Jacob's Ladder Sculpture from found materials""Kelvin's Thunderstorm : Create lightning from water""Paper Resistor"Physics : Instruments & Measures :"Be a Scientist : Make your own force-meter.""Be a Scientist : Make your own thermometer"Physics : Magnetism :"A simple mechanical resonance demonstrator""Diamagnetic Levitation Experiment"Physics : Optics :"Naff Movie into _DVD-Spectra_""Optical Water-Prism"Physics : Sound :"How to measure the speed of sound ...""Mechanica Wave Driver for Chladni Plate"

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High quality and safe nickel plating question? Answered

Hi. There is instruction on this address https://www.instructables.com/id/High-Quality-and-safe-Nickel-Plating/ how to make high quality and safe nickel plating,and i have some question about that. When he showed to add salt to the vinegar in order to make the vinegar  more conductive,isnt the salt become Na and Cl ions? Will the Na positive ion stick to the negative nickel plate?(while making the nickel solution-step 3)? Will the Na positive ions stick to the item that we are plating besides the nickel( in the plating process-step 5)? will it spoil the object that we are plating with nickel? I see in the supermarket vinegar which said"synthetic vinegar" 5% acetic acid,water.(for food).Is it ok? when he said(step 4)"You can further clean your object by reverse electroplating (ie "electrocleaning") it for a few seconds.  Hook your object up to a negative voltage, a WIRE to the positive voltage, and drop them both in a vinegar salt solution for 10-30 seconds.  This will remove any left over oxidation" What wire did he mean? and the last one:how pure is the nickel should be?because i notice that most of the nickel sheet are about 99%-99.7% purity.is it ok? can i use pure nickel strip(97% pure nickel)that is used for battery welding? Thanks in advance.

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nickel plating question

Hi. There is instruction on this address https://www.instructables.com/id/High-Quality-and-safe-Nickel-Plating/ how to make high quality and safe nickel plating,and i have some question about that. When he showed to add salt to the vinegar in order to make the vinegar  more conductive,isnt the salt become Na and Cl ions? Will the Na positive ion stick to the negative nickel plate?(while making the nickel solution-step 3)? Will the Na positive ions stick to the item that we are plating besides the nickel( in the plating process-step 5)? will it spoil the object that we are plating with nickel? I see in the supermarket vinegar which said"synthetic vinegar" 5% acetic acid,water.(for food).Is it ok? when he said(step 4)"You can further clean your object by reverse electroplating (ie "electrocleaning") it for a few seconds.  Hook your object up to a negative voltage, a WIRE to the positive voltage, and drop them both in a vinegar salt solution for 10-30 seconds.  This will remove any left over oxidation" What wire did he mean? and the last one:how pure is the nickel should be?because i notice that most of the nickel sheet are about 99%-99.7% purity.is it ok? can i use pure nickel strip(97% pure nickel)that is used for battery welding? Thanks in advance.  

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Contest: Photos of Crafts/Projects/Gifts Using Ribbon

What Is It?At PrintMyRibbon.com, we are always on the lookout for new and creative ways to use ribbon. We love it when customers send in photos of the ways they have put their personalized ribbon to good use. We decided to hold a contest to see what other ideas are out there. Please submit your unique ribbon ideas in one or all of the following three categories. Multiple submissions are welcomed and encouraged.Contest Categories:Events: Submit your ideas for using ribbon creatively at an event.Weddings: Send in ribbon ideas that can be used in a wedding ceremony, shower, or reception.Holidays: Email us photos of your creative holiday-related ribbon ideas.What are the Prizes?Ribbon, of course! Each of the three categories will have three prize levels.1st Prize: One 50 Yd. Roll ofPersonalized Ribbon (Your choice of Widths & Premium Ribbon Styles: Double Face Satin, Grosgrain, or Picot Edge)2nd Prize: One 50 Yd. Roll of Personalized Satin Acetate Ribbon (Your Choice of Widths) * 3rd Prize: One 100 Yd. Roll of Preprinted Ribbon (Your Choice of Printing)How Do I Enter?To submit your ribbon ideas, please send in a minimum of one photograph that is 500 x 500 pixels or larger. Descriptions and how-tos are encouraged but not required.Click here to view contest page.We want to share these ideas with everyone, so don't be surprised if your photos and ideas show up on our blog!Click here to view contest page.

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Wood gasifiers and safety - Carbon Monoxide poisoning - hospital

Sorry if it is in the wrong section of the forum. If it can be moved to a better place then do so. This is a quick mention to anyone that is playing around with any burners such as:    wood gas generator    bio-gas    wood gasifier    'hobo' stove I am not severely concerned but it did happen, I think it needs a mention, as it is for everyone's safety. After playing with wood gas and attempting methanol creation from a small gasifier unit for a few weeks, I had started to realize that each day I had a most annoying headache / migrane in my frontal area of my brain / head. They ended up getting so bad that my body could not tolerate them anymore and started to go into shock, causing a rather painful, endless throwing up session for many hours each time even.  It came to a point where after 3 weeks of playing with a bio-gas generator for about 4 hours a day had started to lead me into temporary blindness an hour and a half at a time. This was when I was concerned as I could not read any more instructables :( After a quick jot to the local doctors, I explained what I had been up to and I was correct. I had given myself the rather classic, and very close to death, carbon-monoxide poisoning where my doctor insisted I go to emergency at the hospital ( 2 hours away ) immediately and have someone else drive me. Pretty much equivalent to staying inside a garage with your car running for 5 hours, all the doors closed. I was very close to severe carbon monoxide poisoning and death.  At the hospital, blood was taken, analysed, and they had discovered large traces of C02 that they attempted to flush with some oxygen, but this only works to a point and they mentioned that nothing else could be done apart from telling me not to use or be near any smoke sources for at least 3 weeks and I should recover fine. I am still playing with my wood gas generators, and attempting to make methanol, but these days, after 3 days ago, I take further safety precautions to make sure it wont happen again. Such as: ventilation / exhaust fan ( I WAS OUTSIDE WHEN I WAS POISONED! DONT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY! ) keep a distance, find a better way to ignite / extinguish the burner keep your face and body out of the smoke dont watch the flames / smoke from above for any longer than 2 seconds do not taunt the Criosote by-product of wood. I am not sure which is more toxic. The smoke or this.   ( criosote / bio-crude, whatever you want to call it, it is the condensate of the burner unit containing more chemicals, very stinky) do not store criosote indoors withough a sealable container ( the smell likes to soak into things, like my kitchen ) if you know what you are doing, keep oxygen tank nearby use all protective clothing and masks, etc. There was a small arrogance in my head when playing with these units. And that is simply that I was thinking 'it is just smoke'. Wood gas generators are generating a much more toxic smoke than just sitting around your camping fire and should not be considered to be something to play with, without proper valves, pipes, burn off points etc. It contains on some scale: carbon-monoxide, methane, acids ( acetic ), tar and many other defects that will cause you issues if you are not careful. Keep it safe guys, this was a rather difficult one for explination, but I do not want someone other than me to be in that same sickness / position as I was with the poisoning, as it is the most painful experience I had yet had.  Worse than me hitting a tree head on at 80km/h. Worse than falling 2 stories off a cliff onto rocks. Worse than being hit by a car and thrown over it's windscreen. Worse than the feeling of an unsuccessful home made rocket launch. All of these above I have had happen to me, and the poisoning was by far the worst and I was scared more for my life than than any above accidents. It is not a very nice feeling, it is a deathly, sickly, useless feeling, blindness is not far away from death if found in this situation. Oxygen / fresh air is the only thing to help you if poisoned, even if in hospital. Keep it safe guys. If you want me to write up a full on poster on wood-gas / wood-heater safety I can or even just a propper write - up on general safety with this smoke and the wood gas units etc. Ask please and I will. Hospital staff will most likely give you 'items of interest' for instructables if you just ask them too. I have a heap of things from a stethoscope to vials to 'red dots' for homemade ECG machines. They tend to like crazies like me that make weird stuffs .. i hope ive gotten the point across anyway.   

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