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Compressing hydrogen? Answered

I have a hydrogen generator and use the gas as i make it at the moment. I want to try compressing it, the issue is the gas is really a combination of pure oxygen and hydrogen in the perfect explosive mix. If i have flame aresters on all my pipes and have it well earthed as well as not using steel parts in the compressor so there is no chance of static or sparks from steel, will it be relatively safe to try compressing this into a cylinder? or am i insane to try this???

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Visible Gas? Answered

I wan't to fill a chamber with hydrogen, have a chamber of the same size linked with it, with a heavy visible gas in it, then as I pump out the hydrogen the heavy gas displaces it and I can see when I need to stop pumping and refill with hydrogen.  What gas can I use,  I know just about any visible gas will work because hydrogen is the lightest, but it would be nice if it was heavier than average air so I could allow air to flow into my heavy gas chamber to displace it.  Or can I just die the air with some kind of smoke from my smoke machine. Yes hydrogen is extremely explosive, so this would be on a very, very small scale with hopefully 0 oxygen.

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hydrogen gas storage question?

I want to store hydrogen gas(not browns gas) in some kind of pressure container. Since the propane tank is  not a good idea from your forum, I was thinking about using a truck tire that could be pressurized to 120 psi.  What are the hazards in this process. I would suck out the air from the tube tire with a vacuum pump and then generate hydrogen gas, compress it into the tire.  Will it work or will it become unstable and blow up?.

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hydrongen gas for cars?

What will be the basic equipment I need to put together to test hydrogen gas on my vehicle? Where does the hydrogen mixes with the gasoline?

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Can you use hydrogen gas for cooking

Can you use hydrogen gas for cooking ( Stoves ) What modifications would i need to do.? Conversion from Gas to Hydrogen

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Hydrogen Generators

Does anyone know how to test for output quantity of HHO gas from a Hydrogen Generator when connected to a vacuum such as your intake manifold? The output is easy to test when just checking with a submerged bottle with the generator running on its own without being hooked to a vacuum source. The generator will put out substantially more volume under vacuum than when not. How do you check for output volume when under vacuum? Pylgram

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Shouldn't hydrogen burn ? Answered

Hello, I generated hydrogen simply by applying a DC current to 2 tubes filled with water , the ( - ) tube started bubling and filled up with a gas, i suppose that it should be hydrogen, i sucked the gas with a syringe and tried to burn this gas with a lighter by squeezing the syringe directly over the lighter's flame but the gas wouldn't burn, instead i heard micro pop's , like micro explosions.. Isn't hydrogen flamable ??

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Hydrogen gas by combining electron- generating bacteria & small electrical charge...

Hi,Pennsylvania State University researchers last week announced that they have developed a method of producing hydrogen gas by combining electron-generating bacteria, acetic acid and less than .2 volt source in a microbial fuel cell. Info at this URL... http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iXbROJgdF3_6BtG3TZFEs9hiw8CgI first heard about this last week on NPR's Talk of the Nation. Here is NPR link - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16343702≻=emafThe researcher who led the project Bruce Logan, the director of the Hydrogen Energy Center there said last week on the show that this was actually a relatively simple process.He claims 90 percent efficiency. Also claimed is that the process produces 288 per cent more energy in hydrogen than the electrical energy that is added to the process.I would love to build one small scale and combine it with solar panels. Or maybe try to generate some hydrogen and try using it as a fuel supplement for my car using something like this - http://www.hydrogen-fuel.ca/ . Anyone willing to tackle this one?

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Production of minute amounts of dry H2 gas

I need a relatively simple way to produce a few milliliters of dry H2 gas. I do NOT want HHO and I do NOT want electrolysis of water, I also would like this method to produce little to no water as a byproduct. I'm looking for generators because  the minimum tank size of hydrogen I could buy (unless someone could locate a supplier in the UK that would sell me something the size of a propane tank or smaller) is far too large. I'm Interested in a chemical reaction or hydrocarbon cracking method that would require a maximum of 200 degrees C if it requires energy input, but I don't mind if it's terribly exothermic (unless its an thermite-like reaction, then we have a problem) since I have a very effective cooling system in place for it and the rest of the system. I forgot to add what its for, glow brazing. It'll be ionized and remove surface oxides while simultaneously heating the parts to be brazed.

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Running motorbike on hydrogen

Where I've to connect the output of hho gas generator to my motorbike? I've no experience in mechanics, but I know is very simple to connect the hydrogen gas output tube to some part of my motorbike to run the motorbike on hho. The question is... where? If you answer to my that, I'll make an instructable about the process.

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Producing Hydrogen to Function as a Lift Gas

The short version: I want to make hydrogen to fill model airship envelopes with, because screw helium. Help me make a cheap electrolysis device that can do this in under an hour (ideally), or come up with an even better system for production. My immediate problem is that I need a high-surface electrode that won't fail in a solution of sodium hydroxide.The long version:I've devoted a fair portion of my time to contemplating airships, primarily because they're awesome. Fell out of use with the rise of much faster aircraft, and the technology its fate sealed by the extraordinarily bad rep the Hindenburg gave it. It is still far from useless, however, in that lighter-than-air systems can lay claim to flight times measured in days, and sometimes months, thanks to the fact that they literally float in the air like a boat floats in water.Their day may have come and gone, but I still want to experiment with the technology and create some model airships of my own. Helium works okay as a lifting gas, but it remains expensive and isn't going to get any cheaper in the foreseeable future. It is for this reason that I am pursuing hydrogen, in the hope that I might be able to produce a cheap lifting gas for my projects. Unfortunately for my aspirations, hydrogen is surprisingly hard to get cheaply in decent quantities. Here's what I've figured out so far.For one, it is absurdly hard to find sites that don't veer into fringe science when talking about hydrogen. HHO production, Joe cells, power your car with water...it all keeps cropping up, and not only does none of this do what I want, the concepts are often poorly documented or riddled with problems. However, I have been able to glean some information from my research. First off, one of the easiest methods (and the one I'll be pursuing the most) of hydrogen production is through electrolysis. For those of you unfamiliar with the concept, you can basically take two electrodes, stick them in water, add some electrolyte (like regular table salt), and apply a decent voltage. You'll get hydrogen gas streaming out of the negative electrode and oxygen out of the positive electrode. Fancier systems use large tanks, platinum electrodes, and a strong acid or base as the electrolyte. To increase efficiency (yeah, it's not 100% efficient), there is ongoing experimentation with high-temperature electrolysis and ongoing research into an effective electrocatalyst.Now, when I did my research, I thought "Hey! This sounds easy! I'll just set the system up like explained, and away we go!" Unfortunately, those exclamation marks were unwarranted. My first attempt showed that production is mind-numbingly slow with small electrodes. Using salt had the wonderful side-effect of producing chlorine and sodium hydroxide, a.k.a. caustic soda. It's called that for a reason, and I'm lucky I didn't run it too long or I might have a chemical burn now. Now I know. Choosing a good electrode turns out to be a problem too, as most conductors oxidize quickly or dissolve in the solution (now I know why everybody uses platinum when possible). My aluminum foil electrodes in a sodium hydroxide solution? Yeah, that didn't work AT ALL. I had better luck with steel mesh, but I recently found that it seems to fail over time too. The only thing that isn't disappointing is the container and the collection apparatus: an inverted plastic bottle with some airtight hose running off it, connected to a gas valve. If the bottle is placed such that forming gas causes the internal water level to be lower than the external container water level, the gas will be pushed through the hose (no pumping necessary!). There was one good thing I discovered, however. Apparently there was a bit of soap or something left over in the container, and I ended up forming a bit of explosive foam as well. The hydrogen foam blows up like nothing else, and the oxygen foam makes a loud pop and sends (slightly) caustic foam all over the place. Totally useless but still somewhat cool, so long as you're not fool enough to do it in large quantities.So, as of right now, I've got a good container and collection system, but my electrodes suck and production rates are so low that it'd take me hours and hours to inflate a good-sized balloon anyway. I'll be using sodium hydroxide in the future as the electrolyte, skipping the chlorine production and observing the proper safety procedures. My top priority is finding a good electrode, my next is finding a good way to increase surface area, and my last is getting a higher voltage source than the 12V power supply I had lying around. Any ideas?

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electolysis? Answered

What is the best metal to use and setup for making hydrogen gas with a fair good amount of hydrogen output

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Hydrogen Boosters for ICE's.

I've been reading quite a bit about hydrogen boosters for vehicle motors ( gas and diesel )on the internet. Seems like there's some debate about whether they are effective. They are a bit pricey. Does anyone know of any DIY plans to make such a booster?

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How to store hydrogen at low pressure?

What is the most practical and cost efficient way to make a 10m3 gas bag for the storage of hydrogen? I am planning to store pure Hydrogen (made from water electrolysis) in an outdoor area, a bit like the way biodigestor gas is stored in low cost, small scale installations. My concern is the high effusing nature of the gas through membrane material. My first thought was to use reinforced PVC like that used for truck tarpaulins but I can't find any info on effusing rates verses other materials. Ideally the gas would be able to remain in the bag for a maximum 2-3 weeks until needed. This is an experiment on the practical applications of locally produced hydrogen, so I hope to be able to follow up any advice by constructing the gas bag and reporting back with the project progress. Any thoughts and advice would be gratefully received! Thanks in advance, Nick

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anybody know how to keep a lit gas from lighting the gas in a fuel tank? I'm building a hydrogen stove or burner.

I need to keep the lit hydrogen from lighting the compressed tank of hydrogen. The only things between the burner and the tank is a hose and a valve.

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how can hydrogen gas can be compressed to liquid form?..?

Actually i am trying to use a liquid  hydrogen as a fuel in a car ...........

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anybody using on demand hydrogen to heat hot water?

Hello all - I am interested in either converting an existing gas-fired hot water heater to burn homemade hydrogen gas, or building an on demand heater powered by same. Is anybody doing this? What are the issues, beyond safety of making your own highly flammable gas? lol... I am thinking jet/hole size on the gas burner ring for efficiency considerations, corrosion issues, etc..... THanks in advance... Matt

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What kind of tanks would I need to store liquefied hydrogen, and oxygen or gas forms? But not h2o form.? Answered

What kind of tanks would I need to store liquefied hydrogen, and oxygen or gas forms? But not h2o form.

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can i completely replace lpg with hydrogen to run a car? so that hydrogen is used as the primary fuel source.

I want to know if its possible to replace the petroleum gas in a lpg powered car with hydrogen that i can produce myself and fill the cars gas tank with... if not is there a ratio of hydrogen to lpg that get good results?

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How would i compress hydrogen gas into a propane-type bottle? Answered

Im trying to store hydrogen into these propane bottles so i can use that instead of propane to fuel my foundry furnace.

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HHO bike

Today i try to run a motorbike by hho gas wow its amazing https://www.instructables.com/id/HHO-Hydrogen-Generator/

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How to produce 14,000 cubic feet of hydrogen? Answered

Okay, here is the deal. Me and a friend where thinking about filling two weather balloons( http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIANT-Weather-Balloon-Meteorological-Military-8-Dia-/330626487344?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cfadfd430) with a lifting gas, sending it up with a camera and gps-cellphone. Now, we have everything else figured out but how to get hydrogen, as it is the lightest gas. Is there any way to produce those quantities of hydrogen within a 6-36 hours? I figure I'd ask here because there are quite a few hydrogen powered vehicles here.

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How to make a mylar balloon from a space blanket

I want to make a hydrogen balloon and am afraid rubber won't hold the gas in well enough. I was thinking I could make a balloon from a space blanket but am not sure how to connect the edges. I thought maybe I could fuse them with an Iron but am not sure. Will apreciate any help.

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can u guys ,tell me how do i convert my liquified petroleum gas car to a proper hydrogen running car?

I am in India ,i have a fiat car i wanna convert that car make it run on hydrogen i dont mind few modifications .but can it be succesful in doing so .plzzzz help me on this .should we change the fuel container and all that stuff.the car is abt 10 years old .i found out that other car makers r making cars which run on h2 with same concept of IC engines

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The real gas guzzler: Car that turns hydrogen into electricity hits the road

Car that turns hydrogen into electricity hits the roadIntroducing the family car that runs on hydrogen and pumps out only pure water from its exhaust pipe.Honda's FCX Clarity is the world's first production hydrogen-powered 'fuel cell' car - with its own onboard power station which creates electricity to drive its motor.It has a range of 280 miles and a top speed of 100mph, yet emits no harmful pollution. And it is about to become the latest 'must-have' accessory for the Hollywood set wanting to show off their green credentials.Just the thing at a time when oil prices are rocketing to record highs. The only drawback? Finding somewhere to fill it up.The FCX is the result of nearly 20 years of research and many prototypes by the Japanese firm.It is being launched first in California where Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has spearheaded the creation of a chain of hydrogen filling stations - as part of his environmental drive for cleaner cars. The first five customers include movie actress Jamie Lee Curtis. Honda claims the FCX offers three times better fuel efficiency than a traditional, petrol-powered car.The highly explosive lighter-than-air gas - which once kept the ill-fated Hindenburg airship in the air before its fiery end in the 1930s - is kept safely in a pressurised tank in the boot.Honda plans initially to produce about 70 of the eco-cars a year. They are initially available only to lease for around £300 a month including insurance - equivalent to a purchase price of £24,000.But Honda admits that the billions it has spent on research means that the true cost would be more like £1million per car.British motorists will have their first glimpse next month at the British International Motor Show in London's Docklands. Although there are price issues, its great to see there's development of this idea. I hope this sort of car is available for the "common man" at a "common price" soon.......

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THE BEST FUEL

Hello I am looking for the most accessible, cheapest, hottest burning, most efficient fuel and maybe even environmentally friendly. And what would be already in my house(and NO I AM NOT MODIFYING MY NATURAL GAS PIPES).So post what you think. I usually burn fuels in those little pop can stoves, and in my pyrotechnics. Thats Not My Stove. But Its VERY similar.

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Pulse jet cogeneration either hydrogen generator or steam turbine?

I wanted to make a pulse jet and use peltiers to generate electricity to create hydrogen that will be added to the pulse jet. That or i'd run water around the metal of the pulse jet to cool it down and produce steam that could drive a turbine. Give me suggestions and any flaws in my idea. Thanks

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About metal hydride?

When I fill metal hydride in tank or cylinder to storage Hydrogen gas Do I must refilling agin metal hydride to the tank or cylinder to storage Hydrogen?

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Does Hydrogen occupy less space when it is super cooled (When it is in its liquid state)? Answered

If i freeze hydrogen to -253 drgree (liquid state), will it occupy less space when it is in its earth natural state (Gas)?

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Someone can help to build a small system to mix three gas from three various tanks and compressing it in a fourth tank? Answered

I need a small system to mix three gas (carbon dioxide, helium and hydrogen) from three various tanks and compressing it in a fourth tank. I don't need high pressure, but I need extreme accuracy and purity in the ratio of the mix. I want to try different ratio in gas mixture, then I need to regulate any single gas amount

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which valve to use for storing gas in bottles?

I need to store gases(mainly hydrogen, generated from electrolysis)  in a bottle. I was thinking of getting a bicycle valve and attaching it to the bottle. The problem is I cannot find a bicycle valve anywhere online. Moreover, when a bicycle valve is opened the inside gas leaks out. Is their anyway of storing a gas in a (soda or soft drink) bottle? Which air valve should I use?

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Zinc+hydrochoric acid=?

I put a zinc coated nail into hydrochoric acid and the nail started to bubble.The bubbles came to the surface and when they popped a small cloud of some gas appeared and I was wondering what this gas was.I think to was hydrogen.

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PLEASE HELP, I'VE BUILT A HHO GENERATOR (2 CELLS-THE SPRING KIND)...how can i make the flame that comes from it bigger?

PLEASE HELP, I'VE BUILT A HHO GENERATOR (2 CELLS-THE SPRING KIND), I HOOKED THEM UP ON AN ADAPTER (12V), AND THEY MAKE JUST ENOUGH GAS FOR A LIIIIIIITTLE FLAME, AND EVEN THAT DOESN'T LAST LONG, SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT I CAN DO TO IMPROVE MY CELLS (HOW TO BOULD UP MORE PREASURE OR SOMETHING TO MAKE THE FLAME BIGGER) P.S. WHAT SHOULD I PUT IN THE WATER (I USE SALT OR BAKING SODA) AND AT WHAT RATIO THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

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If i post this instructable, will it be taken down?

I'm planning to put "How to rapidly produce hydrogen gas (faster than electrolysis)"

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How do I make small amounts of Hydrogen by reacting Mg and HCL. ?

I know how to drop the acid and collect the gas, but my question was "what proportions of acid to Mg?" Thanks

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Exploding Lithium

Does any body know how to get lithium out of those battery's? it produces hydrogen gas and may ignite on contact with water.

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How do I collect the oxygen from the reaction of hydrogen peroxide and manganese dioxide?

I believe that the reaction between the black, powdery manganese dioxide found within carbon-zinc batteries, and household-variety hydrogen peroxide produces oxygen. However, it is my understanding that oxygen is heavier than air, and will therefore that collecting the gas will not be as simple a matter as seen in steven07's Instructable on producing and collecting hydrogen.Unless I'm completely wrong, and a reaction that produces oxygen will inflate the balloon. :POr, does anyone else have another way of collecting the gas?

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I volunteer to gather eyewitness info on water into hydrogen.

I'm a beginning engineering student and my dad is also an engineer. He is pretty skeptical and he recently told me of someone he knows who is using electrolysis to get better gas mileage in a Toyota pickup. I'm not sure, but it seems he is using secondary voltage to power the split and then burning it. He claims 60 mpg. If you guys would like to give me a series of questions/tests, I would love to go to my hometown and ask/perform them, then report back. Any takers?

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Hydrogen torch - anyone made or used one? Answered

I am working on my own "hydrogen batteries" to create a lot of hydrogen when I need it as a replacement for those propane/butane canisters when camping or fishing. Got some simple prototypes working for the gas creation but do struggle a bit with converting some orifices (is that eve a word?) and a torch to work with hydrogen. Not to mention the pressure regulation LOL Biggest problem so far seems to be the flame temperature. The gas is produce at up to 50°C and my current burners all start to glow red hot after just a short amount of time. Where they struggle to braze copper with propane the hydrogen is almost overkill ROFL Must be really close to these yellow acetylen bottles the plumber use. So big questions: Do I really need a different orifice hole and if so bigger or smaller than used for propane/butane? Do I really need a acetylene rated torch or can I just ignore the orange red color of mine when using hydrogen? I don't think it will melt but after a while the heat travels down into the handpiece too...

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CFL re-purposed for spectrum tube?

Can a CFL circuit be modified to drive a hydrogen spectrum tube?

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Paper two stroke hydrogen engine

 Ok so I have this crazy idea to make a two stroke engine out of paper that runs on hydrogen and well ive allready built part of it just the piston head and cylider and stuff but if i lined the inside of the cylinder with tin foil would that be enoth to keep the paper from burning? and so ya anyways the engine of i have made allready is very sturdy each peace is 10 sheets of paper or more compressed for over 24 hours  now the compression im not two worried about because its more of the sheer pop of the explosion that will push the piston down well i guess thats how it is anyways but if the gas ignites anyways with oxygen why have compression  for this anyways because the explosion is going to be soooo small anyways that it wont really matter much.  the overall size of the engine is about almost 2" tall by about 1" wide on the widest part the bottom . So um I know by now im classified as "CRAZy" but that asside can i get some opinions and ideas plz. thanks MRN

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What keeps diy water torches from "back firing" ? Answered

I wish to make one using electrolysis. Electricity breaks the water into hydrogen and oxygen, then the gas then goes through a bubbler and then to the torch. Can water torches backfire because of the oxygen in the HHO gas?

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Hydrogen Peroxide at home and in the Garden

Although the topic is quite old for some of us and mostly because I am too lazy today to make an Instructable: Hydrogen Peroxide ! Back in the day Hydrogen Peroxide was mainly known for the ability to bleech your hair, later it replaced chlorine based products for the preparation of paper and organic fibres. For me it is a good opportunity to go back in time and to pull out some of the remedies my grandparents already used. Who knows, there might be something that helps you or you might know other good uses that I failed to mention here, so feel free to comment. First off: What actually is hydrogen peroxide? We could check Wikipedia but I think it is enough to say that it basically water with an added oxgen mulecule which turn the stuff into a quite powerfull oxidizer. When hydrogen peroxide reacts the added oxygen is released and the normal water remains. Precausions and health risks. In the normal supermarket form hydrogen peroxide comes at a strenght of just 3%. This is just enough for wound treatment or cleaning off a fresh and small stain. The stuff you can buy at your hair dresser comes in concentrations of 5-15%, above that it is of little use to them. Pool grade peroxide however can come as high as 50%. It often requires a permit of at least leaving a copy of your drivers license to buy such high concentration but well worth it price wise. The downside of anything above 5% is a risk for your skin, eyes and airways. So when handling hydrogen peroxide you should waer long sleeve rubber gloves, safety or better swimming goggles and make sure that you don't create vapour by spraying it against the wind direction. Having water at hand to dilute and spillage on your skin is always good. What happens to me if things go wrong? Well, if handled correctly nothing should go wrong but of cause the worst would be eye contact. Getting concentrated hydrogen peroxide in your eyes means extreme pain and even with rinsing it out asap eye damage is more than just possible. Again: wear proper eye protection and if spraying use a filter mask, the paper type is enough!!! Nothing immediate happens on sking contact but a few minutes after contact the skin will turn slightly brown or goes white. This is caused by the oxygen release into your skin cells, if washed off quickly after noticing the discoloration will fade after a few hours. Prolonged exposure of the skin can cause skin cells to fully discolor and living cells might get damaged - a burning sensation is usually the sign that you need to wash the area now ;) Enough bad stuff said, let's see what we can do in the garden.... Fungal infection of your old roses or on your fruit trees? Sometimes the weather does not like our plants and by the time we discover a fungal infestation it is usually pruning time. There are commercial producta available that work quite well but especially the copper based ones tend to do more harm than good in th long run. An alternative is a solution of 10-20% hydrogen peroxide. Spray generously over all affected parts of the plant, leaves, twigs, stem and all. Make sure everything is properly wet! In some cases the fungus can act as a water replellent and it seems impossible to get any of the solution to wet these areas - a drop of dish washing liquid into the bottle will fix this! Watever runs off can be left as it only helps to get oxygen into the soil but of course you should not soak the area... Leave it on for about an hour, around 20 minutes if it quite warm. Rinse all off with clear water and repeat every 2 days for 5 treatments all up. After this time wait 2 or 3 weeks and check if the fungus still gows in some hard to reach areas. If so then repeat the treatment there until satisfied but wait another 2 weeks every 5 single treatments. In some areas of the world certain types of fungus on roses are refered to as "rust". ----- Moved into a new home and the garden beds smell really bad? The last house I moved into had a previous occupant with a big dog but no time to clean after his pet. The garden beds looked dead and I mean so dead that I could not even find weeds in them. And the smell was a distinct mix of old dog poo with lots of fresh cat poo mixed in it - the perfect outdoor pet toilet :( Trying to dig it all under made me recover that the top soil was more §$&*# than soil. I had to get rid of the bacteria of all the poo and somehow neutralize a lot of the unwanted "nutrients". The solution was to first loosen all the soil as deep as I could go. Then I added rice straw (but anything straw like or dry grass will do) to mix it through. At this stage I wished I had a gas mask LOL All up the contaminated garden beds covered about 20square meters. I got a 10 liter canister of pool grade hydrogen peroxide, from this I diluted down with 20 liters of water and a few drops of dishwashing liquid to help with the soil wetting. All was applied as evenly as I good with a watering can and then the area was covered with some tarp to try keeping as much oxygen on and in the soil as possible. A day later the tarp was removed and all beds watered with hose to drowning point. This watering was repeated every 3 days for 3 weeks to drive out all the excess and unwanted nutrients from the poo. The smell was already gone except for some cat urine residue which disappeared after some rounds of watering. Three months after the initial treatment I did some soil tests, added nutrients were required and the next season I had vegetables growing :) ----- Planting? Whether from seeds or seedlings, give hydrogen peroxide a try! I use a 5% solution to soak the potting mix I use before putting my seeds in it. Not only does it kill a few of the unwanted things that might still be in there but it adds a lot of oxygen into the soil, which gives the seeds a much better start. For seeds I use a 5% solution as well but only leave them in for about an hour before placing them between some wet paper towels until they start germinating. This way I can be sure all harmful bacteria and fungal spores are dead and I can use a sterile seed to keep going. Might just be my opinion but I think the germination rate is better and seedling in comparison start growing faster and stronger. Home uses.... As we learned before hydrogen peroxide, at least in higher concentrations is a powerful way to remove fungus. In our bathrooms we often have the problem that the ceiling starts to develop black spots as in the colder times water condenses here and takes a long time to dry off. If you now go to your favorite hardware store they will recommend the use of a chlorine based product, basically bleach... And although it does the job it also means your house will stink for days and if you scrub the ceiling you will get it on your sking and stink too. Hydrogen peroxide at 20% or higher concentrations can be sprayed onto the cleiling :) Of course you will need good protection for this and all things color should be removed, like towels or floor mats. By protection I mean a minimum of swimming goggles, a tyvek suit or similar to cover all exposed skin areas and at least a paper dust mask, better a filtered respirator like you use for spray painting or using insecticides. If you have a spray bottle with an adjustable nozzle then a stream is far better than a spray mist!! Not only is your exposure far lower but it much easier to wet the ceiling quickly. Wet all affected areas, then leave and the room, close the door and take off all clothes you used t protect you. The clothes can be left out to dry but double check that you had no soaked spot where your sking might have been in contact - if so rinse the skin with plenty of water! It will take some time to work and then dry, so best to do this in the summer time or if during the colder times you need to make sure the room is porperly heated and aired out to dry! Repeat until all black spots are gone, really bad areas will leave a permanent discoloration looking like a slight brwonish color is the ligh it right otherwise you won't see it. Once fully dry it is best to scrape off all lose paint and then to use a acrylic based sealer before giving the ceiling a fresh coat of white. The sealer will prevent the water to penetrate more than the paint level and if you get the fungus back on the paint it is far easier to clean ;) ----- Carpet cleaning.... When moving into a new rental with carpet on the floor you often are left with areas indicating the carpet might be "clean" but the underlay certainly is not. You can fix the underlay but you certainly can make sure all harmful stuff is gone from the carpet. Carpet cleaning machines can be hired but often much cheaper if you buy the "recommended" cleaning product with it. Rent is usually based on a daily base and price depends on how much cleaner you need. If you only want to desinfect the carpet which otherwise looks mostly fine than go for the smallest pack available and use it to spot clean areas you want cleaner first. For the desinfecting part I recommend to test how high you can go with the concentration of the hydrogen peroxide before using it on a big scale - keep in mind the carpet will never be fully dry and the remaining peroxide will continue to act! Test a 10% solution first before you go higher as you don't want to buy 30 liters or more of pool grade peroxide - just trust me on that one and only try to buy this much you do want to get into trouble a few days later! If 10 percent solution left on the carpet does not cause any bleaching of the fabric (unwanted bleaching that is) you can try higher for spot cleaning in demanding areas. A good spot to try the solution is under the cover or duct outlets, under these joining bars where carpet changes to tiles (if you can lift them off) or in wardrobes if the carpet goes inside. There are two way to treat your carpet once the general cleaning is done. a) use a garden sprayer or similar to wet the carpet This is good for single room treatment like for the baby room but especially on thicker carpets it requires a lot of solution and can become costly. Once wet leave for at least 30 minutes so the peroxide can do its thing, then use the machine with either the solution filled or just to dry off the carpet. I recommend to use the peroxide solution in the machine as it allows for better penetration and it will remove more soiled solution this way. If your catching container starts bubbling like mad it means you have a lot of §$%&#+ in the carpet and it might be best to first clean it all with the normal carpet cleaning agent before using the peroxide again - again tesing on smaller areas can help wasting the peroxide. If you need to store prepared solutions than it is best in a cold place. It will take several hours on an otherwise clean carpet for the peroxide to fully disappear so it best to use shoes and prevent skin contact during that time - especially if a baby crawls around ;) ----- Toilet.... We don't want to talk about it but everyone needs to clean their toilet sooner or later. For most things in there using the toilet brush when it happens will keep things clean and healthy. But what if someone in the house is sick or with a weak immune system? You could use all sorts of commercial cleaners and desinfectants but a wipe with wet towel or cloth soaked in a 10% solution of hydrogen peroxide will quickly eliminate all harmfull things on your seat, lid or bowl, including the buttons to press and the door handles ;) Just wipe and leave it wet for a minute or two then wipe again and ry - done! Personal use I always pack a small bottle of supermarket grade peroxide when going off road or camping trips. Although we now have modern desinfectants that won't stink or otherwise harm you I still prefer the old stuff ;) If you are far from civilisation than the last thing you want to need is medical attention for something that started as small as a scratch or graze.... Out in the unkown wilderness you will never know if the rockk you just crash landed on was used as a urinal by a fox the night before... A bit of gravel left in your skin might contain harmful bacteria... A cut with your own knife?? - What did you all cut since the last proper cleaning of the blade? You see where I am going here, a small thing might turn into something really nasty a day or two later. If you clean a freash and minor wound properly and then rinsie it with hydrogen perodixe most if not all harmful leftovers will be killed by the releasing oxygen. Of course this pretty much useless on bleeding wounds or where it is obvious that you won't be able to remove all debris from the wound - here it means you trip is still over in favour for proper medical treatment. The thing is that hydrogen peroxide was basically abandoned for all wound treatment once the modern "cleaning aids" became available as the peroxide will not only attack harmful things but also living tissue. The claims goes as far as causing bad scar tissue, damage to blood vessels and even "burning" of the tissue. One big problem I have with all these claims is that they were never really mentioned until the new meds came out. IMHO exposure time and how you use it it the key - common sense if you ask me. Noone should ever soak a wound in peroxide, if it is that big that you need to soak it you need medical attention anyway. And as said you should rinse the wound, that means all remaining liquid should be allowed to flow off - this will only leave a minor amount of peroxide in the wound and the exposure time will end with once all oxygen is released. For minor wounds I only use a paper tissue or cotton bud soaked in peroxide and wipe the wound.... ----- Smelly feet? Ok, maybe not the best way to start a conversation but we all know what sneakers do to our feet in the summer... Insoles with copper and activated carbon will help a lot and at least "cure" your sneakers while they are off your feet and have time to dry. But the smell is actually cause by bacteria growing from everywherey in your sneaker to your sking, actuall starting at your sking... If you wear your sneakers for long periods of time time or even whenever possible and also suffer from a bad smell hydrogen peroxide might be able to help you. Most sneakers will tolerate a machine wash and should come out germ free, if that is no option pack them in a sealed back and leaven them in the freezer over night - this will kill all bacteria and remove the smell. Now to break the endless cycle you need to remove the bacteria from inside your skin. So daily sock changes, freezing shoes and washing feet is a must! Your feet will really benefit from a foot bath in a 5% solution of hydrogen peroxide. To keep costs at a minimum use a container that is just the right size for your feet and prepare the solution from pool grade peroxide. I an ideal case you should not need more than 2 liters but all used product can be stored cool and re-used the next day, after that you need to make a new batch. Keep your feet submerged for at least 10 minutes. This will allow a deep penetration of the skin but might result in some white spots that will disappear after a few hours. Consenquent foot baths can be reduced to 5 minutes. After about a week you should notice that wearing your sneakes no longer causes and bad smell and you can stop the treatment. Freezing the sneakers over night, dialy (or more) sock changes and daily, proper cleaning of your feet should prevent any further bad smells :) ----- Bleaching your hair Althoug it was done for many years I really can't recommend using hydron peroxide for this purpose! Any concentration strong enough to have a proper effect in a reasonable time will at least cuase skin irritation. Back in the days they said your burning scalp is what you need to endure to get blonde hair :( And as said already you really don't want to get that stuff into your eyes... General uses If you have a fruit based stain then cahnces are hydrogen peroxide will remove it, especially if fresh. Even at supermarket concentration repeated application and proper drying off with a paper towel or similar will remove even red wine or beetroot stains. ------ Blood... On you skin blood is easy removed with cold water, same on other surfaces but washing off is no option a wet cloth or cotton piece will work fine. Hydrogen peroxide is good if things need to go fst or if the surface is porous, here the releasing oxigen will drive out the blood with the bubbles. ----- Fish tanks... If you love your tank then you really hate to medicate or even worse have a bad algea infestion, especially the stuff of the black kind. A change to activated carbon filter material is always recommended after a medical treatment to remove all leftovers from the system. However, certain medication simply won't be affected by a carbon filter and stay in the system until fully used or broken down otherwise. Especially in bigger tanks a partial water change is often out of the question as it would cause too much additional stress to the fish and plants. Hydrogen peroxide can help to break down most if not all remains of the used medication while at the same time adding more oxygen to the water. To be sensitive and safe in all enviroments I recomment to calculate the concentration based on the volume of your tank and to add the required amount of peroxide very slowly into the outgoing water stream from your pump. By slowly I mean in terms of a slow drip if using solutions over 10% to be added to the tank. If in doubt remove a suitable amount of tank water into a bucket and add the concentrated peroxide to reach the final tank limit. I strongly recommend to stay below 2% in favour over additional treatments a few days later if required. That means the diluted solution you add should be entered into the tank slowly if in doubt add a glass full every few minutes. For the treatment of the dreaded black algea you do the same 2% solution but be prepared that it will take several treatment until you see them die off. If you can then it is best relocate the fish for a few days so you can use a stronger solution of 5-8% just with the plants left in the tank. When transporting fish in a bag it can pay off to add a little bit of 3% peroxide to the bag to give additional oxygen for transport. I do this maually for every fish I buy from a store so I can be sure all fungus and bacteris is killed of before I introduce it to my tank. Really helps to prevent loosing a lot of fish just because you added one or two more to your tank ;) For the normal sized transport bags I use a good shot glass full of 3% peroxide in case you wondered. ----- Fridge and freezer Be it after long use or because you bought one second hand - once empty and warm some of our colling gadget just smell bad. A good clean with a hot water and your favourite cleaning agent is a good start, no need for aggressive stuff ;) If clean but still smelly, like after a power failure with fish in it you might want to go one step further. Best option is to use a spray bottle and a peroxide solution of at least 15% here. Use proper protection as mentioned above and spray all surface with the solution until soaked. What you can take out you take you take out, clean properly and then wipe or brush with the same peroxide solution. Bare aluminium should be handled with caution as in some cases it can oxidise badly, leaving a white and not removable crust behind. Here it is best to wipe and then wipe again with a cloth soaked in clear water to limit exposure time. No need to dry out - wipe out and check if it still smells, if so repeat and wiped off all areas as good as you can with a solution soaked cloth. Once the smell is gone dry out and enjoy smell free use from now on :) ----- Fruit and vegetables Unless you know exactly what happened to it you might want to clean your vegies and fruits properly before using them. Pesticides, herbicites, fungicites.... Not mention normal fungus and bacteria on the product.... On a commercial base hydron peroxide baths are often used to clean products for sensible people, hospital use or long term storage. For a personal use this only makes sense if you have free and unlimited access to the peroxide. An alternative are ozone bubblers. Expensive models can eb bought in shops or online, complete with timers or even a gauge showing the concentration in a room. On a hobby level for the kitchen sink we can use an ozone generator, air pump and bubble stone from the aquarium store ;) Let the pump bubble out the ozone for a minute or two, fill the sink with the fruit and veggies and move them around every few minutes. Best of course with an open window to limit you exposure to the ozone! Rule of thumb: If you can smell it is already too much in the air! The ozone in the water does the same as the peroxide: It breaks down harmful things with pure oxygen. The downside is that it is very harmful for your airways and body in general, so against all what youtube can offer I actually prefer to treat my fruit and veggie in a sealed bag. Place them inside, push out as much air as you can and then fill up with the ozone from the generator. Once the bag is full leave for about 30 minutes then wash and use or place the things in the fridge.

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is it illegal to sell sodium and calcium?

I know sodium and calcium are both strong alkalines and make hydrogen gas and ignite it when put in water. So is it illegal to sell it completely or do you need to have a license.

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Hydrogen for renewable energy storage- total system efficiency?

This is a question that has been bugging me for some time, especially since the questions about methanol synthesis revived my interest in energy storage. Say I have a wind turbine or solar panel or whatever, that produces 1000 Wh per day.  If I use that electricity to electrolyse water, store the generated hydrogen at roughly atmospheric pressure in an upside-down water butt or a big gas-tight bag in my shed (don't worry, I'm not going to actually do this) and then feed it into a generator converted to run on H2, what percentage of that initial energy input would I get back out?  20%?  5%? 1%? The follow-up questions to this are a) How does that compare against a battery bank? What about a similar DIY-style pumped water storage system? b) What one component of the system should be improved to raise the overall system efficiency? Electrolyser, storage, generator? c) Are there any other DIY-friendly methods for storing intermittently generated electricity that I'm not thinking of? And, I suppose, d) Does doing this and providing 5-10x your overall power requirements in wind turbines work out cheaper than spending thousands on batteries?

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Generating a Couple of Watts Using Urine?

Hello, I recently came across a paper written by a researcher from a Scottish University about generating electricity directly from urine in a fuel cell and I was wondering if a larger version could be built to generate around 2 watts.  The power per square cm is around 1.5mW so even at 1mW I would need 2000 cm-sq so I think it would be easier to build a stack of cells instead of one or 2 large cells. I'd like to attach the paper but it's one which you need to pay for though I got it for free, could a moderator let me know what to do?  It was written by a Shanwen Tao and called 'A Direct Urea Fuel Cell' DOI: 10.1039/b924786f Another idea I had was to use a small PV setup to generate hydrogen from urine and then store the gas so that it can be used in a hydrogen fuel cell.  I've had some difficulty in trying a to find a cheap fuel cell but then I came across this page: http://www.mtmscientific.com/fuelcell.html Are there any really simple ways of building a fuel cell? I'm posting this here to see if anyone can help me come up with a viable design and maybe even build it for me.  I can pay you for your time and effort; though as a student I do have a tight budget to stick to. Any help, advice and ideas will be very much appreciated. Thank-You

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Converting a 12V Lead acid to a hydrogen generator? Answered

Is it possible to take a 12V lead acid battery, remove the acid from all 6 cells and replace with water and connect to a 12V power source, and get H2 and O2 gasses bubbling out the top? The reasoning behind this question is that the 12 volt lead acid batteries are made of 6 cells, each producing about 2 volts, connected in series.  If instead of producing 12V we could (by removing the acid and replacing with salt water) feed it 12V, wouldn't we have 6 hydrolysis cells running at 2V each?   6 cells of 2V hydrolysis cells is nothing new, but has anyone of you ever tried to convert a lead acid battery before? Is the lead going to be any good as electrodes? Will the lead oxidize too fast? Will the there be any chemical reaction that would change the produced gasses? Should I be worried about lead poisoning for even typing these words? Should I be asking anything else I haven't thought about? Thanks!

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have i done anything wrong?

Today with my friend, i made a saturated solution of hydrogen sulfide by boiling aqeous hydrogen sulfide solution made by reacting hydrochloric acid with calcium sulfide. then what we did was we mixed the solution with ammonium hydroxide with hopes that as simply logic would predict, that we would get ammonium sulfide. now, the end result was nothing like ammonium sulfide, and was actually almost completely scentless, aside from the strong odor of exess ammonia, though we have not yet removed any of the mixed solution from its sealed container yet. i would like to ask, did we make ammonium sulfide suitable for use in a stink bomb? and if not, what did we do wrong? in multiple previous questions i have asked if hydrogen sulfide and ammonium hydroxide will mak ammonium sulfide, however, in all questions lemonie and others change the subject and spam the questions with warnings about the dangers of hydrogen sulfide, but refuse to actually answer the question, and so have forced me to go trial and error in the practical rather than the theoretical first. we do not plan on re-attempting the experiment until we know exactly what our outcome will be, which is , if we either mix a solution of hydrogen sulfide and ammonium hydroxide, or bubble hydrogen sulfide gas through ammonium hydroxide solution, will we get ammonium sulfide! also whoever best answers the question will recieve a best answer, also if you know any other ways to make ammonium sulfide, please do tell

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can i make hydrogen sulfide by reacting a sulfide with oxalic acid?

Hi, i am trying to make hydrogen sulfide for the purpose of reacting it with ammonium hydroxide to create ammonium sulfide. however, since my parent think that concentrated hydrochloric acid is too dangerous to work with, especially since i can only get huge 20L bottles of it, i have decided to quest for a new acid to react with calcium polysulfide, to get hydrogen sulfide, thats when i came across solid oxalic acid. at first glimps, i saw that it said, hazardous, extremely corrosive acid, i thought "yes", this would work, i could react this with the lime sulfur , but then after some research i discoverd that no-one in the history of the world has ever documented the practical reaction of oxalic acid with a sulfide, in order to make hydrogen sulfide. so i want to ask , will oxalic acid, when mixed with calcium polysulfide, generate hydrogen sulfide? another reason though i might point out why i dont think oxalic acid will react with calcium polysulfide, is because it is a solid crystal acid, one that does not evapourate into gas like sulfuric or hydrochloric acid, and i cannot find anywhere documented either of non gaseous acids being able to react with calcium sulfide to make hydrogen sulfide, according to what i have found out, only nitric, sulfuric and hydrochloric acids will work. but this is also the reason i want to use oxalic acid over hydrochloric because i want to boil off the hydrogen sulfide through a tube and into concentrated ammonium hydroxide, but if there is hydrochloric acid in the solution, it would very likely boil off as well, which would be something of a hassle.

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