Introducing your Kids to Fishing

Introducing your kids at a young age to fishing, hunting and the great outdoors. Here is a short clip of a family trip we took with, then our 1 year old son.     

Topic by ridgeline16 


Fishing Lures

After seeing this, it has me wonder if anyone has anyone else experimented with making fishing lures? Particularly, has anyone tried making any unusual fishing lures? With any success? I recall, when being dragged on fishing trips as a kid, that outdoor stores would often have some crazy gimmick lures that never seemed like they would work, but claimed to be the greatest thing that ever happened to fishing since the beer hat. I think it would be a fun challenge to not only make an incredibly bizarre fishing lure, but to get it to work.

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So Bizarre, You Had to Know About This

My Dad sent me this. I suppose it's Halloween appropriate? Weird. Have you ever heard of "Bat Fishing?" Kids out in the countryside come up with creative things to occupy their time. This fellow called in to a radio show ... you have a very light monofilament line on your fishing pole. Tie on a very small hook like you would use for small trout, put a small weight just above the hook, and bait the hook with a little bread. You then toss the hook up over a wire or tree branch in an area where bats are flying around at dusk. Kind of tug or wiggle the line so the bats strike at it. Be patient ... eventually one of them will grab the hook. Then you can fly your bat around in the sky ... kind of like a kite. When the bat becomes exhausted, reel it in, remove the hook, and let it go.

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Have you ever made a coloring book for kids?

I am looking ot make a coloring book for kids for our outreach program. Is this the type of program i am looking for to create one. 

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Does anyone have any good "food crafts" to do with a group of middle and high school kids? No baking or stoves.

The group of kids I have coming to the library has been asking for play-with-your-food type programs. Over the summer, I offered a "sweet sushi" workshop, where the kids cut sircles out of poundcake, and using fruit by the foot, swedish fish, coconut shreds, and white frosting, made everything look like sushi rolls. I'd love to find more ideas like this one -- we all love to play with our food!!

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Adland - video - how many ads can you spot?

This rather nice video crams in parts of well-known ad' campaigns. It is UK-biased, but some of these will be global. http://www.coy-com.com/index2.html Includes a cake-car, a fish on a bike, bunnies, a transforming car, and kids running through walls, which should have been seen a lot?

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A fisherman told me a strange story... Answered

 Ok, a couple years ago I was trying to catch some worms for fishing. I tried looking everywhere, but to no luck. I finally went the easy route, and walked to the local fish and tackle store in order to purchase a dozen worms. I was at the counter, ready to pay for the worms, when the old man there said, "well, you're pretty young. Why don't you catch your own worms instead of buying them?". I said that I had tried, but failed.  At this point, he proceeded to tell me a ludicrous story of how he, as a kid, would stick a pitchfork in the ground after a rain, twang it back and forth, and the worms would all go to the surface (where he would pick em up and put them in a can) WTF? I figured he was just pulling my leg, but I tried it anyway. And what do you know? it works like a charm!  Why does it work?

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Concerts! Who have you seen live?

I have seen, Bad brains, naked raygun, nekromantix, dead kennedys, the dickies, cannibal corpse, black dahlia murder, lower class brats, brain failure, mustard plug, stiff little fingers, slayer, 7 seconds, reel big fish, against all authority, streetlight manifesto, the germs, the buisness, big d and the kids table, lawrence arms, koffin kats, blue meanies, youth brigade, the effigies, and a bunch of local groups, and upcoming i will be seeing flogging molly, the toasters, dropkick murphys, the english beat, and rx bandits.

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Mother/Son Event

Our grade school is hosting a mother/son night in March.  Our theme is sports and movies.  This year the kids will visit 10-12 booths.  I have been assigned to do 2. The creative side of me is excited while the other, less appealing side of me says...just survive. I need ideas how to make it work. I was appointed to do a Nerf booth and a another one- which I think they decided on cupstackers.  (heard of those?) With Nerf, I don't have anything specific as to what to do in the booth only that I should plan to be there.  Last year they shot the guns at jungle animals, getting points for each successful hit. Because of the movie theme with sports, I was hoping to combine a movie with the sports, as many of the booths already have it.  Fishing booth has Finding Nemo and so on. I would love to do something with Harry Potter and quidditch.  Or How to Train your Dragon.   ~ ideas, thoughts?

Topic by tillytoo9 


(newsletter) Hidden Compartment, Watermelon Keg, Ferret Wheelchair...

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Daft Punk Table, DIY Hot Air Soldering Iron, The Best Mop in the World...

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Topic by lebowski 


Crowdfunding

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Fun and experiments with water - what is your favourite?

We all know that a fight with water bombs or building a water rocket with your kids can be tons of fun. But what about the things that other people might not even know about? A water drop generator for example can produce thausands of volts in electricity! Water can travel up through capilary actions! Water is even used to break massive rocks in cold climates clean and without the need for explosives! Even the simple task of freezing water for ice cubes is now a science of its own for most serious bartenders... One of my old time favourites involving the often weird proerties involved a very small BW TV and a fishtank. After a lot of cleaning and rinsing I placed a TV into a spare fish tank filled with destilled water. Some other tiny tanks were filled for comparison with tap water and other household liquids. Switching a LED on by placing some electrodes in water without a battery was easy to explain as a battery was just created. Showing that copper can tavel from a wire onto a coin was fun too. But most people got really stunned seeing a movie or the new play on a TV under water - after all we just learned water and electricity is a big no no... What is your biggest "trick" or experiment involving water that noone knows about?? I am working on ultrasonic HF/HV experiements trying to figure out why it seems that under certain conditions the water "produces" more energy in the form of gas, steam and light than what is put into the system from the electrical side of things. Once I can replicate some experiments and understand them I will post my results, so give a few decades please ;)

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How they steal your card at an ATM!!!

This is how they steal your credit card right in frot of your eyes! (Well, kinda)One surveillance camera in a bank in Italy has captured these images. They clearly show how easily you may be swindled out of your money, while banking at automatic teller (ATM)Read the process here, or just hover over the pictures for the explanation of what's happening:Pic 1- The camera shows someone routinely making a bank depositPic 2 - But what this person actually doing is inserting something in the machinePic 3 - To make sure that nobody catches him tampering with the machine, he has a friend outside to alert him.Pic 4 - Once the trap is set, the victim enters the bankPic 5 - He inserts the debit card into ATM, and it gets stuck there! The victim is surprised: "Weird, maybe this machine is broken?" He looks around for advice:Pic 6 - Luckily there is someone eager to help to get the card out. What "the helper" is actually after is the P.I.N. code:Pic 7 - "The Good Samaritan" convinces the victim to try to enter the code again (he may blame the faulty keypad, new type of the machine, or claim to know the "secret unblocking code", etc.)Pic 8 - However, the card remains stuck, no matter how many times he punches "Enter" or "Cancel". The exasperated victim leaves, realizing he will have to get his card from the bank later.Pic 9 - As soon as the victim is gone, "the helper" returns to retrieve the card from the machine. Now he's got both the card AND the P.I.N..Pic 10 - he withdraws the maximum amount of money from all accounts on the card, and leaves.How it happened: Pic 12 - The inserted "card trap" is just a piece of black film, which blends with black plastic of the ATM.Pic 13 - The trap is inserted into the slot, with the ends slightly sticking out and glued to the outside, for an easy withdrawal afterwards.Pic 14 - Once these ends are neatly glued in, it's nearly impossible to tell if there is any foreign object in the slot.Pic 15 - The trap film also has special notches, to ensure that the card is not ejected by the machine when the operation is canceled.Pic 16 - Once the victim is gone, the crook unglues the tips of the trap and "fishes out" the card.DO NOT FALL FOR THESE TRAPS!Never type your PIN in plain view of strangers.Be on guard, and share this information with your friends!

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The "truth" about climate change - a little story

Global warming, climate change, jelly fish attacks, changed ocean currents...We all know the highlights from the news but what is the real deal behind all of this?It can't be denied that burning fossil fuels with no regrets has an impact on our globe.CO2 and other gasses or elements have been trapped for thausands of years.We release them all into our atmosphere and while doing so keep adding more harmful stuff.So, of course it is easy to say that if we would have nver used our fossile fuels to this extent then our world would be unharmed and a happy place throughout.Even if we would ignore the impossible task of making it where we are right now without having used any fossile fuels: How much would it be different?If we trust the offical climate data that has been collected then it clearly shows a rise in so called climate changing emissions since our industrial revolution started.Be it data from the ice, core drillings or just sample taken from old canyons - the results are all the same.Since the late 1800's there is a steady rise in emissions, CO2 and all the other things we don't really want in our air.And for good reasons all these green advocates try their best to stop us from doing more harm.Since the 80's we started to actually care more, better engines, catalytic converters, cleaning mechanisms for our industiral waste and chimneys.But did it make any change or difference?About 40 years now some countries try hard to do it right, so this must show up somewhere?!Well it does not.You see countries like the US never really cared about climate or the enviroment if there was a cheaper and easier option.Just check how long it took them to even acknowledge that our climate is changing due to our interference...Then there is China and as we have seen with the olympics they literally have to shut down production so you can see for more than a few km...But the same is true for so many other countries.Like everwhere else the industrial revolutions comes sooner or later and as always the cheapest way is done first and for far too long.And with the delay in reactions and consequences it is now certain that the worst is yet to come.Of course there is also another side to the entire story - nature itself.We destroy it where we can to safisfy our need for being cheap.Ever wondered where all this cheap furniture is coming from?Or all the wood used throughout the world?Rainforests are disappearing, flora and fauna is destroyed.In most cases with a lot of fires as it is still the easiest way to clean up when done.Now add the vulcanic eruptions that increased over the past 20 odd years around the world.And if you dare all the bushfires or natural causes.Combined this causes a higher impact than all our burning of fossile fuels - and it adds to the mix.And this brings us back in time.Taking the records of climete conditions all the way back to before the dinosaurs showed us that we had periods of much higher temperatures than what we might see soon.CO2 level at some periods were so high that the earth literally was a green house.So why did we humans amke it anyway onto this earth if chance were so bad?Species adjust, evolve or go extinct, new ones appear...Well, unless you are a croc or so and really don't care about Darvin and evolution ;)Does that mean we are on the way to become a new species?Sadly no, because we are the cause of all our problems.We now use technology and science to adjust nature and the enviroment to our needs.It gets too hot? Well add an airconditioner, will you!?The ground water is too contaminted to drink? Well, why do you think we invented bottled water?!You need room for new homes? Don't mind the flood planes, just drain them and build, there was no flood in over 30 years...See, even if we would go fully green and honur nature around the world from today on.Even if we try to clean up the mess we already created.The effects of what we did over the last 40 or more years are still in progress and far from over.Like a good stew it keep cooking until it is ready to serve.But strenght comes in numbers!Like a virus we keep multiplying even in areas with very limited ressources.After all, we just import what we need..Natural selection is being eliminated so pharma companies can make a living too.From just over 40 years our "natural" life expectency increased now to well into the 80's.You are not fertile? No problem we have means to fertilise your eggs with the sperm from hubby!Already suffering badly from diabetes, asthma or other chronical illness? No problem, have some kids anyway.And just to top it always make sure to avoid natural foods in favour for processed and artificial ingredients.In nature the weak, the sick, the old, the malformed and incapable are a food source.We took this food source away, keet them around, care for them and make sure really everyone has the same chance in life.In life - but not in nature anymore!Social evolution meant that natural selection was no longer a requirement to ensure a strong "tribe" or hunting party.We compensated the drain on ressources and all pharma companies are still very grateful for this.No this is no weird rant on humanity or the idea of some mad person, it is just the naked reality we like to ignore.A horse breeder will not accept a weak and constanlty sick horse for his breeding stock.A broken leg, like for a cow usually just means the animal is put down.Some dog breeders still prefer to cull a few pups just because the color pattern is not nice enough or the ears are too short.Even if you just breed fish you o through all sorts of troubles to ensure you have the best genes available in your tanks.You think this is already going to far with the ideas, I know :(But we have real world examples highlighting the results of the exact opposite: Inbreeding and ignoring the defects in genes and health.The british royal family destroyed the italian and russin monarchies the same was the spanish and protugise, even impacted on the french.In times when there was no clue about genetic defects or deseases that can be dormant in females but very active in males, the british royalty simply kept providing tainted bloodlines to the other royal familes.No offsprings that are male and of good health meant the end of their monarchies.The british survived by allowing the common folk to join the blue blood lines and now it is common in all the monachrchies left in the world.Remove the carries, provide fresh genes to get a better diversity.Really no offence, but just look at Charles and Camilla ;)Jokes aside: the story of the european monarchies shows what happens if things go too wrong.From hunters a gatherers that either kept healthy or died out we eveloved to having a gene pool that is full of nasty surprises.Again no offence meant in any way or to any person!If we compare our world with a big aquarium than it might have eveloved like this:Once there was a bowl full of plants, guppies and lots of other fish and creatures living on each other.Over time the guppies learnt when the feeding times are and made sure they get most of the food.Slowly the other psecies had not enough room and food anymore, only the hunter had a good linving with the huge supply of guppies.Then the guppies managed to reduce the dangers from all predators around and started to really take off.Soon every guppy had only conerns about having a good life and enough food.The waste got more and more, the sick and ill too.The last hunter able to fight them died off as he too suffered from the wasten the changed enviroment and gnetic defects transfered.Now there is little plants left, guppies everywhere, crap everywhere and even those guppies only living a few months still manages to find a partner to ensure their tainted gene pool spreads into the general population.We have no tank owner getting the balance right again, removing the sick and weak, we humans just keep going strong and if the crap pile gets too high we put grass and houses on top of it....We humans don't like to be compared with fish, a virus or any other lower being for that matter.These hings just don't affect or concern us.And anyone who dares to do so anyway has a long list of nasty words thrown at them.Is it because we humans can't tolerate the truth?Or is because deep inside we all know but refuse to think about it?

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And now I shall bore you with details of my vacation.

Yes, I know, everyone likes to talk about their vacations and nobody wants to hear about them, kind of like dreams. Must be a quirk in the human conditions. So read on, or not. My wife decided she wanted to go on a cruise, now I had prejudged cruising and had no desire to ever go on one. But she searched around and found one that had a fishing in Key West excursion to convince me to go. Well she planned the whole thing, did all the work and really made the vacation happen. There was one small moment when we decided to cancel the cruise for financial reasons (her transmission went out) but discovered we were one day past the cancellation deadline, so we must have been destined. So anyways, on with the vacation. On the first day we drove down to Miami, about four hours, not to bad. We were so early that we decided to visit Fairchild Tropical Garden. Fairchild is a must see for those with a horticultural bent, eighty some odd acres of lush tropical gardens, though I still felt it wasn't quite as nice as Leu Gardens here. We had lunch at the garden before proceeding to the hotel. We stayed at the Holiday Inn, cheap but surprisingly clean with a friendly staff, and a view of the port. Unfortunately my wife became ill from the lunch, and I don't mean just a little ill, but the throwing up out both ends ill. She was so sick that she was curled up in bed crying. We thought we might have to cancel the cruise. But I loaded her up with acidophilus capsules and a dose of a medicine I take for a condition I have and told her we would decide come morning. Come morning she was feeling better but weak, so we decided we'd continue on with the expedition. That brings us to day two. Getting on the boat is similar to boarding the airplane with one noticeable difference, Port security is infinitely more professional than airport security. We only made one mistake, we didn't check our bags. Since you can board hours before the rooms are ready we were stuck with our luggage. There was a moment of Zen when we boarded, they greet you with food and drinks in an atmosphere of sybaritic luxury, but since it was Christmas they were playing music, the song they were playing when we boarded was 'Do They Know It's Christmas'. The rest of the day is exploring the ship and discovering I get seasick, yea! Day Three Nassau, we have swimming with stingrays and snorkeling planned, afterwards we plan on visiting Ardastra Gardens on our own. Swimming with stingrays was pretty cool, and I enjoyed the snorkeling, my wife who doesn't care for the ocean spent her time sunbathing. Eventually that planned excursion was over but we never got to the garden, I was too darned tired from swimming for three hours and my wife was sunburnt. So, back to the cruise ship to do what else, but eat. Day four Cococay, Royal Caribbean's private island, I have snorkeling planned, my wife has sunbathing. Now, admittedly, we're here at the discretion of the cruise line, so the snorkeling area is prescribed, but it's not bad, there's an area of about 1/2 an acre inside a breakwater and about 5-8 acres outside the breakwater. But here's the interesting thing, of all the people snorkeling, only 5 went outside the breakwater! Which means we each had an acre or more to ourselves (there was an additional area that was closed due to the currents). I did find two 'artifacts' while snorkeling here, the first was a dive glove, so I kept that as a 'trophy', the second, I was snorkeling in about 20 feet of water and spotted a distinctly man made object, a doughnut shape, so I swam down and dug up a bottle top, but not just any bottle top but the top of a pre-civil war 'case' Gin bottle. I though that was pretty cool. Now I've considered the idea that the area was 'salted' but I can't quite believe they would 'salt' with broken glass. So I think it was a genuine find. I, of course, returned it to where I found it after taking a picture. Day five Key West, I'm really in a bad mood this morning, because we have to do a 'papers please' inspection with ICE, but then it gets MUCH worse. There's an envelope under the door, my fishing trip has been canceled, lack of participants, the minimum was 5 people, I'm the only one who signed up. Anyways, wise to the ways of Gov't, I convince my wife to show up early for the immigration control, reasoning that 'It's better to be 15 minutes early and wait 30 minutes, than be 15 minutes late and wait 3 hours', guy looks at my ID, asks where I was born, they punch my Seapass (onboard ID/CC). So we go looking for another excursion, my wife wants me to go Kayaking, but I'm seriously exhausted from the past two days of snorkeling. So we decide the Butterfly Conservatory and the Aquarium are where we'll go. The Butterfly conservatory was beautiful, with dozens of species flying everywhere, landing on you and a selection of birds thrown in for good measure, The aquarium, well, umm, geez, I don't want to be mean, but I wouldn't go back. After that we walked around and enjoyed the architecture and visited the Mel Fisher Museum since I was hooked on books about treasure hunting as a kid (I have a metal detector, the most valuable object I ever found was my wife's wedding ring several weeks after she lost it.) And then back to the boat for more eating. Last day, they get you off the ship early, here, you don't want to check your luggage, if you do, you don't get off until they let you, if you carry your luggage, you can get off the ship first thing at 7:30 am. So once we're off the ship all that is left is the customs and the drive back. Customs was nothing, you hand a guy a form and you are done. The drive back was mostly uneventful until the last rest stop, then, of course, the truck won't start. Well it will start, but it's stumbling and sound like only one bank of cylinders are firing, in desperation I stand on the gas and it picks up, think that last fill up had water in it. I baby it the rest of the way home by drafting behind a truck and keeping to 65 and, obviously, we get home. So, goods, bads, and impressions The goods. The ships are insane about cleanliness these days, I noted that there was one individual who seemed to do nothing but wipe the stair handrails with disinfectant continually. The service was impeccable. The food was variable, but it varied from just good to fantastic, it was always hot and fresh, and you never saw the same item twice. The room also had a revolving menu of movies to watch, so I finally got to see Wall-e. The Steward cleans the room twice a day and turns down your bed while you are at dinner. The excursions take a lot of the 'what do you want to do? I don't know, what do you want to do?' out of the trip. And the room was surprisingly quiet. The bad, I realize that the excursions are done through independent contractors and therefore they are not the ones who canceled my excursion, but they could have informed me before hand that there was the possibility that it would be canceled. They push the drinks and the pictures, learn to say no. During the life boat drill the videographer comes up and says 'Can I get a wave from everybody?' and I turned to him and said 'No', he came back with 'Are you kidding me?' and I said 'I can't speak for all these people, but I'm NOT waving' LOL, he walked off. The elevators are slower than hell, if you use them, you will spend half your cruise waiting, use the stairs. Also there are six elevators amidships, three port, three starboard, when you push the elevator button, it only summons the three elevators on the side you push! Poor design, you can cut down the waiting by pushing the button on one side and quickly walking over and pushing the other button, but, of course, you have now tied up two elevators and are increasing others waiting times. Also, no one tells you that you will suffer dizziness after the cruise, both my wife and I have been having dizzy spells and a search shows it is pretty common. Oh, and I used a Walgreens waterproof disposable for the snorkeling, since you don't see any of those pix, you can guess how well it worked. Impressions Cruises are not for xenophobes! Not just the mix of passengers, but the crew is from all over the world, and I like that when they introduce themselves it was often 'Hello, I'm Melvin from the Philippines.' And as a member of the IBWF I enjoyed the diversity. The formal dining was assigned seating, but we only did it once, I was actually a little uncomfortable with the level of service, three waiters for two people? I'm not used to that. Lastly, tipping is expected, I feel that it should be included in the price of the cruise, so we did the pre paid tips, so we wouldn't have to deal with it. And finally, the myth of the 'ugly American' is just that, a myth, what I learned is that ALL tourists are 'Ugly' So, in Ebay speak, A++++++ Would Cruise again. If you read this far, you deserve a drink.

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The Rock 1000

Well the biggest rock countdown finished on friday the countdown takes 100 hours over 10 days see if you can find your favourite songs sorry Dj rock only so you wont find your songs here# Artist Song 1 Metallica One 2 AC/DC Thunderstruck 3 Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven 4 Metallica Enter Sandman 5 AC/DC Back 'n Black 6 Foo Fighters Everlong 7 Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit 8 Metallica Nothing Else Matters 9 Guns 'N' Roses November Rain 10 Rage Against The Machine Killing In The Name 11 Guns 'N' Roses Sweet Child 'O Mine 12 Foo Fighters All My Life 13 Shihad Home Again 14 Motorhead Ace Of Spades 15 Pearl Jam Betterman 16 Guns 'N' Roses Paradise City 17 Pearl Jam Alive 18 Pink Floyd Comfortably Numb 19 Pearl Jam Black 20 Tool Sober 21 Metallica Fade to Black 22 Queen Bohemian Rhapsody 23 Kings of Leon Sex on Fire 24 Metallica The Unforgiven 25 Green Day 21 Guns 26 Pink Floyd Another Brick In The Wall 27 Blindspott Nil By Mouth 28 Pearl Jam Daughter 29 Tool Stinkfist 30 Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here 31 Metallica Master of Puppets 32 Shihad Pacifier 33 AC/DC Highway To Hell 34 Metallica Whiskey In The Jar 35 Bon Jovi Living on A Prayer 36 System of a Down Chop Suey 37 Eagles, The Hotel California 38 Live Lightning Crashes 39 Black Sabbath War Pigs 40 Smashing Pumpkins 1979 41 AC/DC Hells Bells 42 Foo Fighters Best of You 43 Jimi Hendrix All Along The Watchtower 44 Guns 'N' Roses Welcome to the Jungle 45 AC/DC You Shook Me All Night Long 46 System of a Down Aerials 47 Metallica The Unforgiven II 48 Foo Fighters Monkey Wrench 49 Foo Fighters My Hero 50 Meatloaf Bat Outta Hell 51 Rage Against The Machine Bomb Track 52 AC/DC T.N.T 53 Pearl Jam The Fixer 54 Iron Maiden Number of the Beast 55 Red Hot Chili Peppers Under The Bridge 56 Black Sabbath Paranoid 57 Green Day American Idiot 58 Guns 'N' Roses Civil War 59 Rage Against The Machine Know Your Enemy 60 Ozzy Osbourne Mama I'm Coming Home 61 Blindspott Phlex 62 Nirvana Lithium 63 Audioslave Like A Stone 64 Pink Floyd Shine On You Crazy Diamond 65 Sublime Santeria 66 Led Zeppelin Kashmir 67 Bush Glycerine 68 Metallica Sad But True 69 Rolling Stones Paint It Black 70 Soundgarden Blackhole Sun 71 Audioslave Cochise 72 Beatles, The Come Together 73 Smashing Pumpkins Bullet With Butterfly Wings 74 Radiohead Creep 75 Led Zeppelin Black Dog 76 Nirvana Come As You Are 77 Alice Cooper Poison 78 Red Hot Chili Peppers Californication 79 Pearl Jam Jeremy 80 Foo Fighters Learn To Fly 81 Dire Straits Money For Nothing 82 Metallica Sanitarium 83 Rise Against Hero Of War 84 Pearl Jam Black 85 Foo Fighters Let It Die 86 Iron Maiden Run To The Hills 87 Alice In Chains Would? 88 Guns 'N' Roses Patience 89 Linkin Park New Divide 90 AC/DC Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap 91 Shihad Run 92 Lynard Skynard Free Bird 93 System of a Down B.Y.O.B 94 Skid Row 18 and Life 95 AC/DC Rock n Roll Train 96 Def Leppard Pour Some Sugar on Me 97 Shihad My Minds Sedate 98 Who, The Baba O' Reily 99 Faith No More Epic 100 John Lennon Imagine 101 Sublime What I've Got 102 Led Zeppelin Whole Lotta Love 103 Guns 'N' Roses Don't Cry 104 Linkin Park One Step Closer 105 Ozzy Osbourne No More Tears 106 Niravana About a Girl 107 Queen We Will Rock You 108 Poison Every Rose Has It's Thorn 109 Split Enz I Got You 110 Pearl Jam Elderley Woman Behind a Counter in a Samll Town 111 Aerosmith Walk This Way 112 Live I Alone 113 Who, The Won't Get Fooled Again 114 Green Day Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) 115 Th' Dudes Bliss 116 Disturbed Down With The Sickness 117 Cranberries, The Zombie 118 Iron Maiden The Trooper 119 Cult, The Fire Woman 120 Pearl Jam Release Me 121 Pink Floyd Young Lust 122 Guns 'N' Roses You Could Be Mine 123 Violent Femmes Blister In The Sun 124 Pearl Jam Even Flow 125 Def Leppard Armageddon It 126 Spiderbait Black Betty 127 Aerosmith Love in An Elevator 128 Offspring, The Self Esteem 129 Silverchair Tomorrow 130 Supergroove Sitting Inside My Head 131 Linkin Park Crawling 132 U2 With Or Without You 133 Foo Fighters The Pretender 134 Deep Purple Smoke on the Water 135 Linkin Park In The End 136 Aerosmith Dream On 137 Audioslave Original Fire 138 Bon Jovi Wanted Dead Or Alive 139 Kings Of Leon Use Somebody 140 Pink Floyd Run Like Hell 141 Queens of the Stone Age No one Knows 142 Fleetwood Mac Go Your Own Way 143 Opshop Maybe 144 Split Enz I See Red 145 Green Day When I Come Around 146 Metallica Hero of the Day 147 Offspring, The Come Out and Play 148 Rolling Stones Start Me Up 149 Verve, The Bittersweet Symphony 150 Iron Maiden Can I Play With Madness 151 Bob Dylan Hurricane 152 Rammstein Du Hast 153 Ben Harper Ground On Down 154 Shihad The General Electric 155 Nirvana Lake of Fire 156 Filter Hey Man Nice Shot 157 Red Hot Chili Peppers Scar Tissue 158 Eric Clapton I Shot The Sheirff 159 Feelers, The Venus 160 Queen We Are The Champions 161 Collective Soul Shine 162 Disturbed Inside the Fire 163 Bush Comedown 164 Jimi Hendrix Voodoo Chile 165 POD Alive 166 Steppenwolf Born To Be Wild 167 Marcy Playground Sex and Candy 168 Thin Lizzy The Boys Are Back In Town 169 U2 One Tree Hill 170 Stone Temple Pilots Plush 171 Jimi Hendrix Hey Joe 172 Stone Temple Pilots Interstate Love Song 173 Motley Crue Dr. Feelgood 174 Pearl Jam Yellow Ledbetter 175 Mick Jagger Hard Woman 176 Staind Outside 177 Talking Heads Psycho Killer 178 Shihad Everything 179 Midnight Oil Beds Are Burning 180 Red Hot Chili Peppers By The Way 181 Rolling Stones Sympathy for the Devil 182 Linkin Park What I've Done 183 U2 I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For 184 Shihad Comfort Me 185 Everlast/Sanata Put Your Lights On 186 Live Selling The Drama 187 Led Zeppelin Ramble On 188 Radiohead Karma Police 189 Nickelback How You Remind Me 190 Pink Floyd Learning to Fly 191 Elemeno P Verona 192 Cult, The Sweet Soul Sister 193 Metallica Until It Sleeps 194 White Stripes Seven Nation Army 195 Ozzy Osbourne Close My Eyes Forever 196 Drowning Pool Bodies 197 Dave Dobbyn Whaling 198 7 Mary 3 Cumbersome 199 Dragon April Sun In Cuba 200 Disturbed Land Of Confusion 201 Aerosmith Janies Got A Gun 202 Blur Song 2 203 Bruce Springsteen Born In The USA 204 Red Hot Chili Peppers My Friends 205 Rage Against The Machine Bulls on Parade 206 Eric Clapton Cocaine 207 Guns 'N' Roses Mr Brownstone 208 Feelers, The Pressure Man 209 Pink Floyd Hey You 210 Creed My Own Prison 211 Chris Cornell Bill Jean 212 AC/DC Are You Ready 213 Marilyn Manson The Beautiful People 214 Steve Earle Copperhead Road 215 Billy Talent Rusted From The Rain 216 Bon Jovi You Give Love A Bad Name 217 Foo Fighters Times Like These 218 Faith No More From Out Of Nowhere 219 Hello Sailor Gutter Black 220 Green Day Basket Case 221 Def Leppard Animal 222 Pearl Jam Last Kiss 223 Korn Freak On A Leash 224 Billy Idol Rebel Yell 225 Metallica The Memory Remains 226 Doors, The Riders on the Storm 227 Red Hot Chili Peppers Give It Away 228 Beatles, The Get Back 229 Red Hot Chili Peppers Higher Ground 230 George Thorogood One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer 231 Faith No More Evidence 232 Iron Maiden Wasted Years 233 Oasis Wonderwall 234 Clash, The London Calling 235 Smashing Pumpkins Today 236 Led Zeppelin Rock n Roll 237 System of a Down Lonely day 238 Living End White Noise 239 Jimi Hendrix Purple Haze 240 Incubus Megalomaniac 241 Collective Soul December 242 Blink 182 All The Small Things 243 Beatles Revolution 244 Airbourne Diamond in the Rough 245 Green Day Jesus of Suburbia 246 Tool Forty Six and Two 247 Jimmy Barnes Working Class Man 248 Puddle of Mudd Blurry 249 Men At Work Down Under 250 Foo Fighters End Over End 251 INXS What You Need 252 Live Lakinis Juice 253 Living Colour Cult of Personality 254 Lynard Skynard Sweet Home Alabama 255 Green Day Welcome To Paradise 256 Ozzy Osbourne Crazy Train 257 Matchbox 20 3am 258 Megadeth Symphony of Destruction 259 Nirvana In Bloom 260 Elemeno P Fast Times In Tahoe 261 Metallica No Leaf Clover 262 Mutton Birds Dominion Road 263 Muse Plug In Baby 264 Motley Crue Girls Girls Girls 265 Live The Dolphins Cry 266 Pink Floyd Time 267 Pearl Jam Worldwide Suicide 268 Ozzy Osbourne Bark At The Moon 269 Doors, The The End 270 POD Boom 271 U2 Elevation 272 Rolling Stones Satisfaction 273 Pearl Jam Animal 274 Everclear Santa Monica 275 Dave Dobbyn Slice of Heaven 276 AC/DC For Those About To Rock 277 Audioslave I Am The Highway 278 Bush Everything Zen 279 Skid Row I Remember You 280 Red Hot Chili Peppers Dani California 281 Faith No More Last Cup of Sorrow 282 Aerosmith Sweet Emotion 283 Kings of Leon Fans 284 U2 Where The Streets Have No Name 285 Eskimo Joe Black Fingernails, Red Wine 286 Exponents Why Does Love Do This To Me 287 Incubus Nice To Know You 288 Guns 'N' Roses Estranged 289 Police Roxanne 290 Feelers, The Larger Than Life 291 Supergroove Can't Get Enough 292 Foo Fighters Long Road To Ruin 293 Led Zeppelin Over the Hills and Far Away 294 Marilyn Manson I Don't Like The Drugs 295 Nirvana The Man Who Sold The World 296 Pink Floyd On The Turning Away 297 Pearl Jam I Got ID 298 Papa Roach Last Resort 299 Led Zeppelin Dazed and Confused 300 Grinspoon Lost Control 301 Cold Chisel Cheap Wine 302 Feelers, The The Fear 303 Pearl Jam Not For You 304 Pink Floyd Money 305 Shihad Bulletproof 306 U2 Pride 307 Guns 'N' Roses Knocking on Heavens Door 308 Puddle of Mudd She Hates Me 309 Soundgarden Blow Up The Outside World 310 Deep Purple Black Knight 311 Alice In Chains Man In The Box 312 David Bowie Space Oddity 313 Killers, The Somebody Told Me 314 Queen Another One Bites The Dust 315 Eve 6 Inside Out 316 Guns 'N' Roses Live and Let Die 317 Nickelback Something In Your Mouth 318 AC/DC It's A Long Way To The Top 319 Kings of Leon On Call 320 Lou Reed Walk on the wild side 321 Nirvana Heart Shaped Box 322 Foo Fighters Big Me 323 Icehouse Great Southern Land 324 Cult, The Edie 325 Stonesour Through Glass 326 Ozzy Osbourne I Just Want You 327 Opshop No Ordinary Thing 328 Don Henley The Boys of Summer 329 Nickelback Figured You Out 330 Jimi Hendrix Foxy Lady 331 Pearl Jam State of Love and Trust 332 Verve, The The Drugs Don't Work 333 Swingers, The Counting The Beat 334 Kid Rock Bawitaba 335 Whitesnake Here I Go Again 336 Soundgarden Fell On Black Days 337 Smashing Pumpkins Disarm 338 Aerosmith What It Takes 339 U2 Angel of Harlem 340 Motley Crue Smokin In The Boys Room 341 Velvet Revolver Fall To Pieces 342 Bob Dylan Jokerman 343 Blindspott Yours Truly 344 Alice Cooper Only Woman Bleed 345 Metallica Fuel 346 Bryan Adams Summer of 69 347 Incubus Are You In 348 Cult, The Wild Flower 349 Supergroove You Gotta Know 350 Linkin Park From the inside 351 Exponents Erotic 352 AC/DC Who Made Who 353 Mutton Birds Anchor Me 354 Green Day Hitchin A Ride 355 Headless Chickens George 356 U2 All I Want Is You 357 Soundgarden Spoonman 358 Twisted Sister We're Not Gonna Take It 359 Rolling Stones Wild Horses 360 Weezer Say It Ain't So 361 Bruce Springsteen The River 362 Candlebox Far Behind 363 Dave Dobbyn Loyal 364 Green Day Know Your Enemy 365 U2 One 366 U2 Desire 367 Pluto Dance Stamina 368 Metallica The Day That Never Comes 369 George Thorogood Bad To The Bone 370 Kid Rock All Summer Long 371 Neil Young My My Hey hey 372 Nickelback Photograph 373 U2 Sunday Bloody Sunday 374 Powderfinger My Happiness 375 Supergroove Scorpio Girls 376 Collective Soul The World I Know 377 Breaking Benjamin Diary of Jane 378 AC/DC Rock n Roll Ain't Noise Pollution 379 Blink 182 Dammit 380 Led Zeppelin All Of My Love 381 Foo Fighters D.O.A. 382 Hello Sailor Blue Lady 383 Faith No More Easy 384 Meatloaf Paradise By The Dash…. 385 Linkin Park Breaking the habit 386 Def Leppard Lets Get Rocked 387 Disturbed Prayer 388 Phil Collins In The Air Tonight 389 Staind It's Been A While 390 Van Halen You Really Got Me 391 Metallica Turn The Page 392 Rolling Stones Angie 393 Soundgarden Burden in My Hand 394 Shihad Wait and See 395 Who, The Who Are You 396 Red Hot Chili Peppers Otherside 397 Doors, The Roadhouse Blues 398 U2 Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses 399 Faith No More Ashes To Ashes 400 3 Doors Down Kryptonite 401 Alice In Chains Rooster 402 Cold Chisel Bow River 403 Grinspoon Chemical Heart 404 Janes Addiction Been Caught Stealing 405 Nickelback Never Again 406 Clash, The Should I Stay 407 Feelers, The Anniversary 408 Zodiac Mindwarp Prime Mover 409 Led Zeppelin Houses of The Holy 410 Powderfinger On My Mind 411 U2 Even Better Than The Real Thing 412 Pearl Jam In Hiding 413 Bon Jovi Bad Medicine 414 Buckcherry Lit Up 415 Red Hot Chili Peppers Soul To Squeeze 416 Midnight Oil Power and The Passion 417 Scars On Broadway They Say 418 U2 Mysterious Ways 419 Foo Fighters Breakout 420 Gary Moore/Phil Lynott Out in the fields 421 Nirvana All Apologies 422 Sublime Wrong Way 423 Split Enz History Never Repeats 424 Shihad Alive 425 Doors, The LA Woman 426 Metallica King Nothing 427 Led Zeppelin The Song Remains The Same 428 Fuel Haemmorhage 429 Jeff Healy Band While My Guitar Gently Weaps 430 Kooks, The Niave 431 Cult, The Wild Hearted Son 432 Rolling Stones You Can't Always get What you want 433 Red Hot Chili Peppers Aeroplane 434 Van Halen Jump 435 Smashing Pumpkins Tonight Tonight 436 Evanescence Bring Me To Life 437 Dragon Rain 438 Breaking Benjamin So Cold 439 Hunters and Collectors Holy Grail 440 Pearl Jam Corduroy 441 Poison Something To Believe In 442 Tom Petty Learning To Fly 443 Velvert Revolver The Last Fight 444 Kenny Wayne Sheppard Blue on Black 445 Iggy Pop Lust For Life 446 Audioslave Show Me How To Live 447 Oasis Champagne Supernova 448 Soundgarden Rusty Cage 449 Clash, The I Fought The Law 450 Shihad You Again 451 Stone Sour Bother 452 Twisted Sister I Wanna Rock 453 Days of the New Touch Peel and Stand 454 Led Zeppelin Dy'er Mak'er 455 Ozzy Ozbourne See You On The Other Side 456 Pearl Jam Nothingman 457 Who, The My Generation 458 Verve, The Lucky Man 459 Rolling Stones It's Only Rock n Roll 460 U2 The Sweetest Thing 461 Black Crowes Hard to Handle 462 Feelers, The Supersystem 463 Urge Overkill Sister Havana 464 Red Hot Chili Peppers Suck My Kiss 465 John Mellencamp Jack and Dianne 466 Sixx AM Life is Beautiful 467 Dire Straits Brothers in Arms 468 Jet She's A Genius 469 Filter Take A Picture 470 Cars, The Just What I Needed 471 Counting Crowes Round Here 472 My Chemical Romance Welcome to the black parade 473 Tom Petty Free Falling 474 Stone Temple Pilots Big Empty 475 Shihad La La Land 476 Ben Harper Please Bleed 477 AC/DC Let There Be Rock 478 Beck Loser 479 Queen Fat Bottomed Girls 480 Smashing Pumpkins Zero 481 Doors, The Light My Fire 482 Radiohead High and Dry 483 Metallica Mama Said 484 Lenny Kravitz Are You Gonna Go My Way 485 Stone Temple Pilots Vasoline 486 U2 Vertigo 487 Incubus Drive 488 Talking Heads Road To Nowhere 489 Angels, The No Secrets 490 Goo Goo Dolls Iris 491 HLAH Hootenanny 492 Pink Floyd Mother 493 Offspring, The Why Don't You Get A Job 494 Doors, The Break On Through 495 Living End Raise The Alarm 496 David Bowie Cat People (Putting Out The Fire) 497 Metallica For Whom The Bell Tolls 498 Cold Chisel Khe Sanh 499 U2 Beautiful Day 500 Dandy Warhols Bohemian Like You 501 Blind Melon No Rain 502 Black Sabbath NIB 503 Black Crows She Talks To Angels 504 A Perfect Circle Judith 505 Def Leppard Love Bites 506 Elemeno P Nirvana 507 Queen Headlong 508 Rob Thomas/Santana Smooth 509 Red Hot Chili Peppers Around the World 510 Split Enz Shark Attack 511 Soundgarden The Day I Tried To Live 512 Quiet Riot Come on Feel The Noise 513 T Rex Get It On 514 Radiohead Fake Plastic Trees 515 Puddle Of Mudd Psycho 516 Van Halen Running With The Devil 517 Offspring, The Pretty Fly 518 INXS Original Sin 519 Marilyn Manson The Dope Show 520 Skid Row Youth gone wild 521 Queen / Bowie Under Pressure 522 Datsuns, The Harmonic Generator 523 Robert Plant Heaven Knows 524 Foo Fighters Stacked Actors 525 AC/DC Ride On 526 Blink 182 What's My Age Again 527 Blue Oyster Cult Don't Fear the Reaper 528 Butthole Surfers Pepper 529 Green Day Wake Me Up When September Ends 530 Eagles Life in the Fast Lane 531 Incubus I Wish You Were Here 532 Cold Chisel Flame Trees 533 Airbourne What's Eatin' You? 534 Goodshirt Sophie 535 Rolling Stones Brown Sugar 536 Green Day Boulevard of Broken Dreams 537 Tom Petty American Girl 538 Soundgarden My Wave 539 Santana Black Magic Woman 540 Silverchair Anthem For The Year 2000 541 R.E.M It's the End of the World As We Know It 542 Pearl Jam I Am Mine 543 Radiohead Just 544 Presidents of the USA Lump 545 Rob Zombie Living dead Girl 546 Simple Minds Waterfront 547 Creed With Arms Wide Open 548 Aerosmith Crazy 549 Collective Soul Where The River Flows 550 Gary Moore Still Got The Blues for you 551 Shihad Rule The World 552 R.E.M Losing My Religion 553 Push Push Trippin' 554 Snow Patrol Chasing Cars 555 Soundgarden Outshined 556 Foo Fighters Baker Street 557 Billy Idol Eyes Without A Face 558 Live All Over You 559 Shihad Debs Night Out 560 Sex Pistols Anarchy In The UK 561 Red Hot Chili Peppers Desecration Smile 562 Iron Maiden The Evil that Men Do 563 INXS Kick 564 Hoobastank The Reason 565 Rage Against The Machine Renegades of Funk 566 Smashing Pumpkins Cherub Rock 567 Linkin Park Shadow of the Day 568 Queensryche Silent Lucidity 569 Elemeno-P 11'57 570 Midnight Oil Forgotten Years 571 Papa Roach Forever 572 Oasis What's The Story Morning Glory 573 Casanovas California 574 Crash Test Dummies Mmm Mmm Mmm 575 Feelers, The Beautiful Feeling 576 Mutton Birds Nature 577 Nirvana Rape Me 578 Our Lady Peace Superman's Dead 579 Tom Petty Refugee 580 Stokes, The Last Nite 581 Jimmy Eat World The Middle 582 Police Message In A Bottle 583 Tonic If You Could Only See 584 T Rex 20th Century Boy 585 Offspring, The Original Prankster 586 Van Halen Hot For Teacher 587 Feelers, The Stand Up 588 Jet Are You Gonna Be My Girl 589 Led Zeppelin Nobody's Fault But Mine 590 Marilyn Manson Personal Jesus 591 Th' Dudes Be Mine Tonight 592 Powderfinger My Kinda Scene 593 Tom Petty Mary Janes Last Dance 594 Fuel Bad Day 595 Dragon Are You Old Enough 596 Franz Ferdinand Take Me Out 597 Europe The Final Countdown 598 Offspring, The Gotta Get Away 599 ZZ Top Legs 600 Nirvana Where Did You Sleep Last Night 601 INXS I Need You Tonight 602 U2/Green Day The Saints Are Coming 603 Talking Heads And She Was 604 Seether Fine Again 605 Pearl Jam Brother 606 Black Sabbath Black Sabbath 607 Arctic Monkeys I Bet that You'd Look Good on the Dancefloor 608 A Perfect Circle 3 Libra's 609 Aerosmith Livin On The Edge 610 Coldplay Yellow 611 Finger Eleven Paralyzer 612 Genesis Home By The Sea 613 Good Charlotte Motavation Proclamation 614 Men at Work Be Good Johnny 615 Ugly Kid Joe Everything About You 616 Killers, The When You Were Young 617 White Stripes Icky Thump 618 Golden Earing Radar Love 619 Evanescence Going Under 620 Talking Heads Burning Down The House 621 Silverchair Pure Massacre 622 Split Enz Six Months In A Leaky Boat 623 Shihad Beautiful Machine 624 Police Can't Stand Losing You 625 Powderfinger Sunsets 626 U2 Bullet The Blue Sky 627 Metallica Die Die Die My Darling 628 Led Zeppelin Misty Mountain Hop 629 Green Day Longview 630 Billy Idol Flesh For Fantasy 631 Candlebox Cover Me 632 U2 When Love Comes To Town 633 Evermore Running 634 Pink Floyd Great Gig In The Sky 635 White Stripes My Doorbell 636 R.E.M Drive 637 Mi-Sex Blue Day 638 Green Day Working Class Hero 639 Boston More Than A Feeling 640 Foo Fighters Generator 641 Pearl Jam Immortality 642 Who, The Pinball Wizard 643 Elemeno P Every Day's A Saturday 644 Choir Boys Run To Paradise 645 Daughtry It's Not Over 646 Exponents Who Loves Who The Most 647 Snow Patrol Take Back The City 648 Bruce Springsteen I'm on fire 649 Faith No More Stripsearch 650 R.E.M What's The Frequency Kenneth 651 Offspring, The I Choose 652 Reef Place Your Hands 653 Queen A Kind of Magic 654 3 Doors Down Loser 655 Alice Cooper No More Mr Nice Guy 656 Manic Street Preachers Your Love Alone 657 Police So Lonely 658 Incubus Dig 659 R.E.M Man On The Moon 660 Tenacious D Tribute 661 Third Eye Blind Semi Charmed Life 662 Van Halen Why Can't This Be Love 663 Fuel Sunburn 664 David Bowie Ziggy Stardust 665 Foo Fighters Resolve 666 Red Hot Chili Peppers Breaking The Girl 667 Semisonic Closing Time 668 Muse Hysteria 669 Dave Dobbyn Love You Like I Should 670 Green Day Warning 671 INXS Good Times 672 Lit My Own Worst Enemy 673 Robert Plant 29 Palms 674 Offspring, The Gone Away 675 New Order Blue Monday 676 AC/DC Money Made 677 Matchbox 20 How Far We've Come 678 R.E.M Pop Song 89 679 Shihad Leo Song 680 Split Enz Dirty Creature 681 Hoobastank Disappear 682 Kiss God Gave Rock n Roll To You 683 Linkin Park Numb 684 Van Halen Panama 685 HLAH Cornbag 686 Bon Jovi Blaze of Glory 687 Black Sabbath Iron man 688 Ben Harper Excuse Me Mr 689 3 Doors Down When I'm Gone 690 AC/DC Heatseeker 691 Linkin Park Bleed it Out 692 4 Non Blondes What's Up 693 Chad Kroeger Hero 694 DD Smash The Outlook For Thursday 695 Luger Boa On My Mind 696 Exponents Victoria 697 Creed What's This Life For 698 Good Charlotte Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous 699 Def Leppard Rockit 700 Incubus Anna Molly 701 Led Zeppelin Good Times Bad Times 702 Living End Wake Up 703 Peter Gabriel Sledgehammer 704 Oasis Don't Look Back in Anger 705 Rolling Stones Love is strong 706 Foo Fighters The One 707 Crowded House Something So Strong 708 Placebo For What It's Worth 709 Billy Idol Sweet Sixteen 710 Audioslave Doesn't Remind Me 711 Motley Crue Home Sweet Home 712 Finger Eleven Falling On 713 Hoodoo Gurus Whats My Scene 714 Dishwalla Counting Blue Cars 715 Kings Of Leon Notion 716 Jimmy Barnes Lay Down Your Guns 717 D4 Sake Bomb 718 Dave Dobbyn Welcome Home 719 Muse Starlight 720 Bleeders She Screamed She Loved Me 721 Crowded House Better Be Home Soon 722 Disturbed Shout 723 Gary Moore Walking By Myself 724 Grinspoon No Reason 725 R.E.M Stand 726 Poison Your Mama Don't Dance 727 Seether Fake It 728 Australian Crawl The Boys Light Up 729 Midnight Youth All On Our Own 730 Icehouse We Can Get Together 731 Matchbox 20 Push 732 Motley Crue Saints Of Los Angeles 733 Kiss Crazy Crazy Nights 734 Living End Roll On 735 Neil Young Like A Hurricane 736 Foo Fighters This is a Call 737 Pearl Jam Rearviewmirror 738 Soul Asylum Misery 739 Saving Abel Addicted 740 Live Freaks 741 INXS Never Tear Us Apart 742 Linkin Park Somewhere I Belong 743 Noiseworks No Lies 744 Pluto Long White Cross 745 Default Wasting My Time 746 Deep Purple Hush 747 Creed Higher 748 Bruce Springsteen Dancing in the dark 749 Athlete Wires 750 AC/DC Whole Lotta Rosie 751 3 Doors Down Here Without You 752 Hunters and Collectors Throw Your Arms Around Me 753 Korn Word Up 754 Pink Floyd Lost for Words 755 Puddle of Mudd Control 756 Primal Scream Rocks 757 Shihad One Will Hear 758 Red Hot Chili Peppers Behind The Sun 759 Powderfinger Lost and Running 760 Church, The Under The Milky Way 761 Oasis Live Forever 762 Guns 'N' Roses Nighttrain 763 Pantera Cemetery Gates 764 Audioslave Be Yourself 765 Deep Purple My Woman From Tokyo 766 Midnight Youth The Letter 767 Monster Magnet Space Lord 768 AC/DC High Voltage 769 Fur Patrol Lydia 770 Jimmy Barnes Sweat it Out 771 Matchbox 20 Disease 772 Fratellies, The Flathead 773 R.E.M Everybody Hurts 774 Everlast Black Jesus 775 Cake The Distance 776 Counting Crowes Rain King 777 Checks, The You And Me 778 David Bowie Changes 779 Guns 'N' Roses Chinese Democracy 780 Exponents I'll Say Goodbye 781 Hole Celebrity Skin 782 Lenny Kravitz American Woman 783 Live Shittown 784 Goo Goo Dolls Name 785 HLAH Comfortably Shagged 786 Spin Doctors Two Princes 787 Muse Knights of Cydonia 788 Billy Idol Cradle of Love 789 Daughtry What I Want 790 INXS Devil Inside 791 Motley Crue Same ol' Situation 792 Nickelback Rockstar 793 Silverchair Greatest View 794 Melissa Etheridge Bring Me Some Water 795 Tool Schism 796 John Mellencamp Paper and Fire 797 Incubus Warning 798 Lenny Kravitz Fly Away 799 Janes Addiction Mountain Song 800 Everclear Heartspark Dollarsign 801 Billy Idol White Wedding 802 Buckcherry Too Drunk 803 Creed My Sacrifice 804 Deep Purple Highway Star 805 Oasis Cigarettes and Alcohol 806 Pink Floyd Have A Cigar 807 Metallica I Disappear 808 Goo Goo Dolls Here Is Gone 809 Led Zeppelin Immigrant Song 810 Opshop Secrets 811 Black Crowes Remedy 812 Iron Maiden Hallowed Be Thy Name 813 Ben Harper Steal My Kisses 814 Cold Chisel You Got Nothing I Want 815 Marilyn Manson Sweet Dreams 816 Midnight Oil King of The Mountain 817 Alice In Chains Heaven Beside You 818 Jimmy Barnes Driving Wheels 819 Rise Against Re-Educate 820 Crowded House Don't Dream It's Over 821 Bloodhound Gang Fire Water Burn 822 Airbourne Running Wild 823 Aerosmith I Don't Want To Miss A Thing 824 Tool The Pot 825 3 Doors Down Behind those Eyes 826 AC/DC The Jack 827 Blue October Hate me 828 Bon Jovi Keep The Faith 829 Live Rattlesnake 830 Eagle Eye Cherry Save tonight 831 Collective Soul Smashing Young Man 832 Aerosmith Dude Looks Like A Lady 833 Foo Fighters Low 834 AC/DC Moneytalks 835 Def Leppard Hysteria 836 Candlebox 10,000 Horses 837 Alice Cooper Schools Out 838 Blacktide Shockwave 839 Bush The Chemicals Between Us 840 David Bowie China Girl 841 Kings of Leon Crawl 842 Pink Floyd Keep Talking 843 Silverchair Ana's Song (Open Fire) 844 Pearl Jam Nothing As It Seems 845 R.E.M The One I Love 846 Raconteurs Steady As She Goes 847 Red Hot Chili Peppers Tell Me Baby 848 Harvey Danger Flagpole Sitta 849 INXS New Sensation 850 Nickelback Too Bad 851 Cure, The Friday I'm in love 852 Velvet Revolver Get Out The Door 853 Ben Harper Diamonds On The Inside 854 Rob Zombie Dragula 855 Semisonic Singing To Me In My Sleep 856 Tadpole Blind 857 Red Hot Chili Peppers Knock Me Down 858 Silverchair Straight Lines 859 Queen Tie Your Mother Down 860 OK Go Here it Goes Again 861 Soul Asylum Runaway Train 862 Th' Dudes Walking In Light 863 Seether/ Amy Lee Broken 864 Whitesnake In the Still Of The Night 865 Grinspoon Better Off Alone 866 Dire Straits Sultans of Swing 867 Jet Cold Hard Bitch 868 Feelers, The One World 869 System of a Down Spiders 870 Simple Minds Sanctify Yourself 871 Soundgarden Pretty Noose 872 Nickelback Saving Me 873 R.E.M Orange Crush 874 Snow Patrol Run 875 Poison Nothing But A Good Time 876 Kaiser Chiefs Ruby 877 Guns 'N' Roses Rocket Queen 878 Shinedown Second Chance 879 Billy Idol Shock To The System 880 Johnny Cash Hurt 881 Atlas Crawl 882 Australian Crawl Downheatred 883 Blindspott Room To Breathe 884 Bon Jovi It's My Life 885 Hinder Lips of an angel 886 Tom Petty Into the Great Wide Open 887 Oasis Roll with it 888 Counting Crows Mr Jones 889 AC/DC Sink The Pink 890 Coldplay Clocks 891 Split Enz My Mistake 892 Steriogram White Trash 893 Green Day Holiday 894 Bruce Springsteen Radio Nowhere 895 Cage The Elephant Ain't No Rest For The Wicked 896 Extreme More Than Words 897 Seether Remedy 898 Simple Minds Promised You A Miracle 899 Feelers, The Astronaut 900 Mutton Birds Giant Friend 901 Living End Second Solution 902 Lenny Kravitz Believe 903 Hunters and Collectors Do You See What I See 904 Motley Crue Kickstart My Heart 905 Live Heaven 906 Icehouse I Can't Help Myself 907 Nirvana You Know You're Right 908 Spacehog In The Meantime 909 Seether Driven Under 910 Robbie robertson Somewhere Down the Crazy River 911 AC/DC Anything Goes 912 J Geils Centrefold 913 Stellar All It Takes 914 Angles, The We Gotta Get Out Of This Place 915 Killers, The Read My Mind 916 U2 New Years Day 917 Supergrass Sun Hits The Sky 918 Ozzy Osbourne Perry Mason 919 Goo Goo Dolls Slide 920 Guns 'N' Roses Yesterdays 921 Opshop One Day 922 Cult, The She Sells Sanctuary 923 Seether The Gift 924 Clash, The Rock The Casbah 925 Feelers, The Communicate 926 Cult, The Love Removal Machine 927 Killers, The Mr Brightside 928 Poison Unskinny Bop 929 Muse Uprising 930 Australian Crawl Reckless 931 Alien Ant Farm Glow 932 Danzig Mother 933 3 Doors Down It's not My Time 934 Bloodhound Gang The Badtouch 935 Matchbox 20 Long Day 936 Mockers, The Forever Tuesday Morning 937 POD Youth of Nation 938 INXS Mystify 939 Nickelback Some Day 940 ZZ Top Gimme All Your Lovin 941 Lifehouse Hanging By A Moment 942 Aerosmith The Otherside 943 Kings Of Leon Revelry 944 Tom Petty Running Down A Dream 945 Datsuns, The Stuck Here For Days 946 Tom Cochrane Life Is A Highway 947 Steriophonics Dakota 948 Angles, The The Dogs Are Talking 949 Keane Somewhere Only We Know 950 Stellar Violent 951 Bon Jovi Have A Nice Day 952 Lost Prophets Rooftops 953 Men at Work Overkill 954 Red Hot Chili Peppers Love Rollercoaster 955 Darkness, The I Believe In A Thing Called Love 956 Barenaked Ladies One Week 957 Mile High Now 958 Airbourne Too Much, Too Young, Too Fast 959 Crowded House Locked Out 960 Dandy Warhols We Used To Be Friends 961 Tom Petty Don't Come Around Here No More 962 Feelers, The Fishing For Lisa 963 Feelers, The As Good As It Gets 964 David Bowie Lets Dance 965 Exies, The Ugly 966 Garbage Only Happy When It Rains 967 Chills, The I Love My Leather Jacket 968 Train Drops of Jupiter 969 Pearl Jam Dissident 970 Steriogram Walkie Talkie Man 971 Verve, The Sonnet 972 Phantom, Rocker and Slick Men Without Shame 973 Weezer Buddy Holly 974 Cars, The Drive 975 Weta Calling On 976 Led Zeppelin Heartbreaker 977 Thirsty Merc In The Summertime 978 Peter Frampton Do You Feel Like We Do 979 Calling, The Wherever You Will Go 980 Talking Heads Once in a Lifetime 981 Weezer Hash Pipe 982 Doors, The Touch Me 983 Killers, The Bones 984 Refreshments, The Banditos 985 Panic Channel, The Teahouse of the Spirits 986 Guns 'N' Roses Better 987 Red Hot Chili Peppers Can't Stop 988 Zed Renegade Fighter 989 Live Turn My Head 990 Wallflowers One Headlight 991 Offspring, The Hammerhead 992 Weta Let It Go 993 U2 Sometimes You Can't Make it on Your Own 994 White Stripes Blue Orchid 995 Travis Why Does It Always Rain On Me 996 Velvet Revolver Slither 997 Hootie and the Blow Fish Let Her Cry 998 Phantom Planet California 999 Pearl Jam Given To Fly 1000 Joan Jett I Love Rock n Roll

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The little moonshiner....

Found an old topic that someone reactivated with a reply, so I though I do a new one to make it easier. "Moonshine" can be as tasty as any good spirit from the shops. I have done a few liters back in my days... There are a few things to consider right from the start though. What type of sugar is used, e.g. fruits, corn, wheat, potatoes or plain sugar and water. Equally important is the yeast, some prefer natural fermantation, others use baker's yeast, most prefer dedicated yeasts for wine. Even the water used plays a role in the final taste!Hygine is another thing that many people overlook or neglect. Anything that can grow in a warm and sweet enviroment will grow rapidly! That means if your yeast is not good or fast enough, other cultures can take over and sometimes totally change the outcome and quality. In some cases, like with fruits to the better but usually to the worse. Imagine you want to bake a nice cake with vanilla in it. But since your vanilla stick is already quite old and you stored it together with your garden herbs in one jar.... You get the idea of taste I hope ;) Just go from start to finnish like you would prepare chicken meat together with fish - keep it clean, keep it healthy.The still.... Now, if you trust some old blokes doing moonshine since they were kids then it all sounds so easy. But for the hobby brewer there are now tons of options available. Basic pot stills you can put on your stove, electric ones that are basically just an electric boiler with a cooling tube, tower models with several levels of control or the good old "reflux" still in copper. Why is it important to know your way around stills? Again, if you ask a cook then he will tell you why he uses a certain pot for certain dishes or why he won't work with certain materials. Sometimes it is for taste or ease of handling, often just preference. Lets check the main differences in material. We have the modern stainless steel and the classic copper. Stainless steel is easy to clean, won't affect the taste and won't cause any chemical reactions that would alter the taste of your product. That is true only if you trust the manufacturers ;) To compensate for the problems I will explain in a bit they use all sorts of gadgets. I call them brewing helpers and explain them in a bit. Copper on the other hand is now quite expensive and also deemed to be a pain to clean and sanitise. To be honest: how hard it is to clean a still only depends on the design. If you can seperate it into nice straight pieces with good access you can clean anything. But copper was and still is the prefered option for drinking vessels and cookware in a lot of cultures - and it is coming back into our kitchens now as well. Why is that then? Copper has natural sanitising abilities but also reacts with a lot of chemicals. And since copper is considered to be a "good" metal, these reactions usually happen only directly on the copper. Meaning all reaction products stay on the copper as well. Work with fruits or potatoes and a copper still can look dark black and really ugly when done. Do the same in a steel still and then compare the taste ;) Copper produces a far better taste! Especially sufur based compounds react strongly with the copper but also anything causing bad smells or tastes is reduced big time. To flux, reflux not not to flux at all!? A basic still heats the mesh to a set temperature, a cooling coil or similar lets the steam condensate and the alcohol (and everything else) drips out. More complex models have a more tower like appearance and with that allow for a better temperature control. Here the steam will cool down in the tower and at the right height you have the outlet. Brings a much more refined product. The best is still the reflux still however. Here the steam is allowed to travel further and cool down completely. Only a fraction is allowed to come out while the rest runs back down into the heated pot. From first to last model the quality, taste and purity improve. Lets take a closer look on what actually happens inside a still:Once the mix is hot enough that something can turn into a vapor or gas form it will try to escape. That is why we usually discard the first "head" coming out - it contains the most methanol for starters but also the worst of tastes. Again more on heads and tails later ;)In a simple still all steam produced is now turned back into a liquid.One reason why the alcohol concentrations is quite low, around 40%.But also the reason for the low quality taste that can happen.Even with a generous amount of head removed literally everything that is in the opt ends up in the spirit.A good temperature control is a must have and the less deviation the better.And as with all pots running low, once you are low enough all impurities left in your mesh will be concentrated.If the bottom now gets too hot they release unwanted tastes...We skip the tower models and go right to the reflux as the later is just better and includes all there is to say about the tower models anyway.At least on a hobby level a reflux still already starts with a quite tall boiling vessel.It just allows a better and more evenly heating of the mesh inside.While the bottom part is hotter than the top currents form that constantly mix what is inside.The heat is controlled so there is no real boiling, in the best option so that no part of the pot will go over 85° C.When all is hot enough so the first alcohol could run out the system is actually still closed.All vapour has to run back down the tower - which is why some towers even come with cooling fins...As a result all things with a low boiling point will stay in the tower as vapor and once the still is opened they come out first.The heads can be much smaller then too ;)Since the outlet is set at a suitable height and is naturally cooler than the steam, a lot of steam will condense above the outlet.Much more below it and only a fraction is collected to run to the outlet.That means that once the system has reached stable temps throughout that the tower is filled with ethanol vapour only.And since it is constantly re-boiled and runs back down and up all that comes out is already at quite high concentrations.With a good setup as high as 95% vol.It also means that you can have a great level of control about what exactly ends in your ethanol.Depending on how high the outlet is located a different amount of things that can either bond with ethanol or have a similar boiling temperature will be collected.Sole reason why most simple pot stills are designed to work with sugar and clean water only...When working with fruits as a base you often want quite a lot of the flavours and tastes preserved.Only experience and trying will get you tot he sweet spot where the alcohol content is just right and all wanted flavours are included.Go too high with your quality and the alcohol is too pure, go too low and the taste is bad...Which of course brings us back to why you should take your time before the cooking starts!I know far too many people who have no patience when it comes to the end of fermantation.Some yeast might be still active, far too much sugar left over in the mesh or just not enough care in general...You want most if not all of the sugar gone and used.What is not dead in terms of yeast needs to be dormant due to the alcohol concentration.And that can be the tricky part already!You see, once yeast dies off quickly due to the alcohol only the strong survive.In some cases, especially if you re-use your leftovers often, these few can still be active at over 20% of alcohol volume in the mix.The best option is to have a spare fridge and to put the entire container or drum in there.Let it sit cold for a few days, the yeast goes dormant, all sediments settly down to the bottom as no CO2 is produced anymore.Once all is really nice and clear use a hose or similar to remove the clear content only!Be careful here and once the levels are low use a seperate container to drain off!Take out what you can and if in doubt let what you take settle again for a day or two.Doing this time consuming step will make sure you only boil up what brings you the good stuff.On the other hand, when using potatoes, fruits or such you might have to press the liquid out and and add that to what you drained off already.I prefer to do this first and just put it back into the big drum again to let it all settle together.Ok, you only use sugar anyway but what comes out just does not taste or smell right...Would also mean you only use a basic still...As mentioned before the heads are what contains all the nasties.There are ways to actually measure if there is methanol present but for what we do now this is not so important.When the dripping start use shot glasses or such to catch it.Preferably while watching it ;)Smell what it is the glass when you put the next one under.The first glass should smell quite bad anyways.Quickly the smell in the glasses will change to something more "pure" and alcohol like - now start collecting for use.With a simple but good controlled still you will see the flow increases and levels out at some point.When the volume starts to go down your tails start.It is good practise to now use a seperate collecting vessel for the rest until what comes to fully discard.At some point you will notice the difference between just enough and really good temperature control.In a really good system the flow will go down to a slow drip or even stop.While in a dirt simple one the flow will just slow down for a while and then suddenly start running again.This running happens when the remainig water starts boiling...Keep smelling what comes out and once the taste or smell changes noticably again use a different container to collet what comes out. - This is you first tail collection.What comes out until the smell and taste go bad is your second tail collection - now you can turn your still off for a while.Let all what you collected cool down to room temperature is not already.Check what you collected from the heads, helps to have small jars for this ;)From start to last the smell should get better.If the last two or three collections smeel somehow interesting then add them to your main collection.Smell the first tail collection again - it should not be that bad anymore, especially if you let it cool down slightly open.Especially when working with fruits you might to add quite a bit of this to your main collection.If only sugar was used just move on to the last tail collection.In case you still don't like the smell mix the tail collection together and keep in a seperate and sealed vessel.Those tail collections can then later be used to destill them again (with more tails from other runs) to get a decent cleaning alcohol or something that might still be worth adding in small amounts for a better overall taste.However for sugar only mixes it can be considered to be for cleaning purposes only.What you have now is little waste and a lot of almost good alcohol.It still contains more or less amounts of unwanted things that mainly come from the yeast and their by-products.To "clean" you alcohol the best option is to destill it again - it will also increase the concentration quite a bit.Best option here is to use properly filtered and prefeably demineralised water to get back to a full fill of the still.If your still is quite small and what you collected would make for one or two full fills then go for it.Be warned though that you should not fill it up to the full mark, a bit under is better as the mix now will boil far quicker and more violent.Personally I prefer to have the alcohol conectration in the still at around 205% only.As we already discarded the worst of the worst in the heads during our first run only a tiny amount, like half a shot glass should be too bad in terms of taste and smell.Whatever comes after shall be fine.Again, once the tails start try to be carefull and if you can slow things down a notch.You will see a quite destinct reduction in the flow rate once the tails start - use a new container right away.The alcohol concentration should now drop quickly too as another indicator.If you want just pure tasting alcohol add what you comes out from this point to your tails container for later use as you don't want to drink it.Again, for fruits and potatoes you might want to keep the first bit of the collected tails.You alcohol concentration should now be already over 75% even if a basic still was used.The overall volume you collected will be lower accordingly of course - so don't be too disappointed by the liters you got from the second run.In a perfect world you now would use some nice barrel and let your creation age...But since we do moonshine...There is a chance that even after two runs you still taste and smell things you don't want or like.So if in doubt do it all again and get to 90 or more percent...Either way the final stuff should be now either watered down (filtered and clean of course) to the desired level.How to further improve on the outcome....There are little helpers along the way to get far bette results than without using them.If you check ready to go kits then they often contain specialised yest strains, a carbon mix and some "clearing aids".The yeast part is obvious, although I do prefer life prt wine yeast anyway.Carbon or activated charcoal is used to bind some of the bad odors and tastes the yeast produces.Keep in mind they are designed to work together, unlike using proper wine making cultures.Using power yeasts without carbon always results in a low quality.The clearing aids actually change the acidity levels and cause some things to mineralise or otherwise change so they settle to the ground.But they mainly make sure the yeast is dead.If you only use sugar then these kits are your easiest option and just follow their instructions.For fruits or anything else however you might want to try the slow route and use actual wine making yeasts for a change ;)And of course here we do not use carbon at all as we actually want to keep the taste of waht we use.We already had the proper way of getting the mesh to settle down, so that bit is clear.For sugar only you can now try to run your creation through activated charcaol or just add it and mix it.Let it sit and mix again for a few days.You do not need to filter the black stuff out, just drain it carefully and run the last bit through a coffee filter.Nothing will end in your destilled product.Inside the still you can use ceramic bioling thingies of all sorts.They provide a surface for water or mix to boil on instead of just the bottom.If you can't them for a good price then just use the stuff for aquarium filters ;)As said earlier too, copper is good but most modern stills are made from steel.If you can't find any copper wool pot cleaners you can cut some plumbing pipe into small sections.Inside the boiling vessel they will quickly turn brownish black while collecting bad things.Cleaning is easy with some cirtic acid/delimer/coffee machine cleaner...For a tower or reflux still it really helps to have these copper pads or wool inside for a far greater surface area to aid condensation and slow down the run off.I know how hard it is to get the stuff these days so if no other option use stainless steel ones and only loose the benefit of more cleaning through chemical reactions.Tools that come in handy....Monitoring the sugar and alcohol level to know when the mesh is right is quite obvious.What might not be is that you can correct bad level towards the end of fermentation.Yeast already dying slowly but far too much sugar left? Just add luke warm water to lover the alcohol conectration...Yeast going dormant with low alcohol levels? The sugar might be out so chack and if in doubt add some more.A good stir will help the remaining yeast to get more active in a day or two.So these little glass measuring tools should be put to good use from the start.During the destillation a purpose made overflow pipe to hold your alcohol tester is extremly helpful!The destilled liquid goes in through a pipe or hose at the bottom of the pipe.The bottom is closed, the top open to allow to drop the alcohol tester inside.Overflow or outlet should be just under the rim.During your run you can now see directly how the alcohol content changes.It will stabilse once the heads are finnished and get a slight rise just before it drops during the tails section.Improving basic desing of a basic still...Once you are done with a dead simple pot still and buy a reflux or tower model you might wonder why you did not build one yourself.What looked good on the pics and in the shop turns out to be still a bit away from perfect.The outlet might not have any flow control or is located to low/high.The vital overpressure protection might be missing and the thing sometimes runs out like a garden hose...For the later you can slavage some old pressure cooker and use the weight with the screw in counterpart in the lid ;)A simple hole in the top with flat weight on it works too, I used an old rubber plug from my bathtub one (could not find the purpose made one in time).For the outlet you can cheat a bit ;)Wrapping the tower with some insulating material improves on the heat loss - this helps if the still struggles to heat enough to provide a proper flow rate.Cooling the tower with wet towels, running water or similar well help on hot days or if the outlet is located reall high with little chance to provide decent condensation in the lower parts.How to cheat with the barrel....No matter if you just run with sugar or if you prefern corn, wheat, fruits....For some spirits good taste means good age.And well, good age for commercial spirits usually happens by resting in wooden drums.Oak, white oak, red gum and several other types of wood are used.Some small destilleries even use only locally available wood and won't even tell you which tree it was...Means we have a few chocices if we don't want to stick to the well known classics.But how do we make a barrel ?A good one is not just made from any old wood - the wood needs to be of the right age and moisture.To keep it simple just treat it like your firewood and let it rest for the same time.A good barrel is often "charred" - burnt with a flame or by rolling it with burning charcoal inside.This does two imortant things:1: It provides charcoal to bind remaining bad stuff.2: It releases some sugars from the wood plus resins and othe stuff.Both are an essential part of the final product and aging process!Now it becomes clear why a good sprit cost more than vodka...Using a neutral vessel like glass to age your spirit is one thing, preparing the wood the right way another...You see, size matters here in several ways.Big chunks provide a decent surface are without causing too much debris.The also provide more tannins for the color and more resins and sugar.Smaller chunks provide more charcaol for a higher level or binding impurities.But both will soak up far more alcohol than the correspong barrel size would!Obviously, if you are on a small scale on only got about 5 liters of alcohol to deal with loosing much is bad.The best way to char the wood IMHO is inside a clsed can or steel box.Just a small vent hole and a lot of turning with the right eye for when the wood is charred enough to be black and sealed.Opinions vary here but I use about a cup full of wood per 5 liters of alcohol at around 93% vol.Some goes for the storage, apart from dark some can't really agree here.Tossing and turning is as much prefered as undisturbed resting - take your own pick.The thig I do differently after the filtering off is to re-use the wood that is soaked.It goes into a freezer bag until the next run of the still and then the frozen wood is just added to the second still run to get back the alcohol in it, plus some nice taste and smell :)

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