Metal Work

Does anyone out there have any knowledge on Cadam programming? I have a mini lathe and milling head and thinking about putting a Cad system on them. Would it be cheaper to just buy one already set up? Also looking for model plans to build and construct.

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easiest metal to work with

Can any one tell me which hollow meal rods are easiest to work with? I am thinking about building a hammock frame that will support at least 170-200 lbs. ( i weigh 160 but it never hurts to hold more). I wouldn't necessarily need to bend the metal rods but they should be relatively easy to cut. I want to stay away from hard wood and copper if possible. At first i was thinking about using pvc but i don't know how much it can hold. I only have hand tools and a power drill. Please feel free to post any suggestions. If you have a better way to build a hammock frame please post it here. If i figure it out ill post an instructable. I uploaded the top view and side view of my design. it was drawn in paint for brain storm so its not very detailed

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Would this ionizer work?

I built an ionizer in an old metal ATX power supply case. My electricity is 230V 50Hz. It uses 22x 2.2nF capacitors and 22x 1N4007 diodes. The circuit is about this(with the activity indicator). I also added a small unregulated non-switching power supply for a fan that: cools the transformer forces air through the 5 needles. The ionisation current calculates to 5uA/needle. or 25uA total. Important (or so I think) details are bold.

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Recycling Metals

I was looking around the other night for information on how to separate metals through smelting, electrolysis, etc. I wasn't able to find much. I'm guessing this is still somewhat out of the range for the DIYer? My neighborhood typically has a rediculous amount of scrap metal on the curb, but the scrap yards around here only offer a slight profit on pure metal. Besides selling the metal at a scrap yard, how hard would it be to seperate the metal yourself, and just use it for your own purposes. I'm going to be investing in a metal-working lathe in the near future, and I'd rather reuse metal I've got lying around than buying it brand new at a premium. What do you guys think, is this doable?

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Effects on metal

So I really like this clock.  I think I'll buy it soon. But as a beginner's art project, I'm trying to replicate some of the metal effects here.  I'm curious for techniques on how to accomplish some things, like: The back plate is copper, which the artist says is "oxidized".  I expect oxidation to turn copper green, blue, or black, not this silver/grey color.  Any ideas how this was done?  Is it just that it's a light oxidation? I really like the metal texturing here.  I've been able to replicate something similar on copper plate by hand-sanding in one direction with a fine-grained sandpaper.  But notice the vertical texturing on the backplate - how would that have been done?? I like the polished metal look of the minute hand contrasting with the reflective look of the hour hand.  How would you do that - similar way as the backplate?  Same with the gear? I've actually made what I think are much prettier nails by taking old (originally quite rusted) square iron nails, removing the rust and grinding the crap out of them with a bench grinder until I get a cool reflective finish.  Doing the grinding in patches gives it almost a hammered metal look while keeping the reflectiveness.  I think the effect is cool and really works with the "old-but-new" look of the square nails.  I'll post before+after pictures if anyone's interested.

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How does this furnace work?

I just bought a "custom crucible furnace" from a local university's surplus department and I have absolutely no idea how to get it working. It is roughly 4 feet in diameter and 4 1/2 feet tall, it has 6 'coils' of metal attached in series with thick ribbon-y cable at the top. The side has a 'band' that sticks out but as far as I can tell it is hollow.From what I can tell it might be an arc furnace that something blew up in and damaged a bunch of the components. I really want to get it working as I've been saving aluminum cans for a long time and scrap metal so my plan now is to just hook up the cables to my arc welder and see what happens :) but if anyone knows anything about it or where I can go to get more info that would be much appreciated!

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Which paints work best on metal? Answered

I've become oddly obsessed with painting those little metal hair clips that snap open and closed. I began first just using nail polish. It's thick, but works well. I use a nail varnish to seal it, and they look awesome! But there's really not many options out there for nail polish, so I was wondering what other kinds of paint will adhere to the metal hair clips? Keep in mind the clips bend (slightly) when opened and closed. I'm currently experimenting with model-car enamel, which seems to be working. Any ideas? Also, what type of sealant should I use over top of whichever kind of paint that works on metal? ..Sorry if I'm confusing. It's like 4:30 in the morning. lol Thanks! LL

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Sparklers as heat source for work with metal?

Forgive my ignorance but I was wondering if a sparkler could be used as a heat source for something like soldering or melting small quantities of aluminum? I could use something to bead up the end of a brass rod too. Any idea if that could work?

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Will my metal welder work ok?

I'm totally new to metal welding but am going to give it a try. My oven/range has a power outlet that reads on it: 125/250V, 50Amps. It has four prongs, three vertically oriented flat ones aligned as a triangle with the center one lower than the other two, and a fourth one top center that's round. My breaker box shows a 50Amp breaker for it. The welder says it's a MIG 170, 240V AC, 20Amps,single phase, 60Hz (Harbor Freight). I think the power I have is actually 220V but I'm not sure. If I do only have 220V will the welder only draw as much voltage as is asked by it - that is, if I only crank it up, say 3/4 of the way, will it draw less than its rated 240V? Or is that 240V just a maximum rating and it should run ok with 220V? It would seem odd that they would sell a welder that won't work for the power their customers would have by default without modifications. Also, where can I get a double socket for that outlet with one having an extension so I don't have to pull out my oven every time I need to weld something? Thank you. Bretina

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Giant Firebreathing Snail Car

Well, Burning ManBurning Man is just around the corner people all over are finishing up their fire breathing, tree growing, LED encrusted, jet propelled art cars. Yesterday I got to join my friend Annie to check out Form and Reform put the disco box and lights on their giant snail car they call the Golden Mean. It's a beautiful metal sculpture that drives and shoots fire... hee!The Form and Reform people do their work in a giant studio in Oakland CA called Kraftwork. It's an amazing place filled with awesomely old metal working machines and soot covered greasy machining tools. Wrought iron everywhere, art and robots. A pretty cool place to check out if you can.Now for pictures of the snail:(you can also check: Flickr or Form and Reform for updates and more photos)

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Covering a workbench in metal

I am attempting to put a metal top on part of a wood work bench to make it more resilient.  I am planning on getting into electronics and want to make it less likely to burn . \ Any ideas on what I should use? at the moment I am thinking sheet metal, but I am worrying about toxicity ect. Maybe that is OCD but hell I am so haha. 

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3D Printing - Metal

Is it true that there are 3d printers that print in metal? If so what kind of 3D Printer is this and about how much do they cost? Oh also how exactly does that work when 3D Printing is supposed to be additive manufacturing and metal isnt a liquid or even flexible at solid states?

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Would a reversed tuyere system work? Answered

I was just lying in bed thinking of ways to update my forge and boom it hit me.Instead of having an airblast directed upwards with an ash pit at the bottom of the blast upwards,would it not make more sense to have the blower aiming down at the ground so that ash is sucked out of the forge. The vaccum created in turn would move air from above the forge into it and throwing ashes out the bottom.Would this not work?

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How do those Harmony balls, or Baoding balls, actually work? Answered

The most I've gotten is it's a "sphere within a sphere and there's a bell", but I don't want to cut one of mine open. Is it an ancient chinese secret.? I thought it might be like a rain stick with thin metal soldered to the inside surface with a loose ball to strike them.

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Huge working crossbow!

In art class in school the other day, I took a bunch of random things - this metal thing, some yard sticks, a ruler, fishing line, a plastic thing, and this wooden bit, and made a giant working cross bow. The trigger system consists of two chip clips. With a bad piece of fishing line, the rnage is 40 feet.

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Huge working Crossbow!

In art class in school today, I took a bunch of random things - this metal thing, some yard sticks, a ruler, fishing line, a plastic thing, and this wooden bit, and made a giant working cross bow. The trigger system consists of two chip clips. I haven't tested the range yet, but when I do I will post the stats!

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Faux Metal Plating on Books?

I'm trying to turn this old text book into the Book of the Vishanti from Doctor Strange, which features a somewhat intricate pattern of metal design work on the front and spine, as well as some hinges. I was thinking that, for the metal, I would use some thermoplastic, but I still don't quite know about the hinges. Would thermoplastic work? Should I use real hinges or just fake them somehow? How could I work around the spine and still keep it flexible?   

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Painting metal; steampunk

Hey guys, I've never really done any crafts so im not sure how to go about doing this so i figured id bring it up here. I know i'm 8 months early but I wanted to get started now, on a project for halloween. I randomly decided a few weeks ago i was visited by never good "good idea fairy" and i listened when i was told to by a unicycle by my awesome mind. Then I started riding it, realizing that i could probably get pretty decent at it pretty quickly. Then someone talked about halloween and I was thinking about what would be off the wall so i immediately though of the unicycle. Here, my mind went to steampunk, then it went to looking like abe lincoln while riding a unicycle. Then I realized that my boring chrome painted unicycle would hardly look Victorian, and that it would need a facelift. LONG STORY SHORT: My issue is that I would like to spray paint it a brassy colour, and not ruin the unicycle. I just got back from the craft store, where they told me that my idea of wrapping saran wrap tightly around it would not work because the paint would just run off. They suggested wrapping canvas around it, but when they showed me the cost of canvas i let out a faint hearted laugh and said what if i were to wrap it in a paper or construction paper type  material and paint that, but they turned that down because of the appearance it would give.  But again, it is halloween and it wont be all that light out so I dont really see a huge requirement for detail. Is there any way you guys could think of that will not ruin the unicycle?

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How do I fix my tesla coil? Answered

My tesla isn't working, and I just want to see if anyone sees a problem. * NST voltage: 10,000 Volts 30 mA * 12 AWG connections wire (radio shack) * 15 feet primary copper tubing * 900 feet secondary winding * Aluminum ducking top load (18 inch diameter) * 12 0.22 uF 2000 volt capacitors (total: 12,000  volts, 0.0073 uF) * 2mm spacing spark gap * ground rod: metal knitting needle If you need more information, just ask (pictures below). Thanks for your help! (I need it to work in half a month)

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Portable Work Space

Hello,  I have been kicking around this design for a portable work bench. My profession is product design however I am a DIYer by nature (mostly wood working, furniture and the occasional home renovation). I would always loose count of the number of trips I would make back and forth to my shop in the garage.I thought that a portable table that could fold into a hand truck would be a good solution to design, build and possibly sell. I have teamed up with a metal worker in the PA and we are considering crafting a few of these tables however I would like to ask the community if an idea like this was worth anything. If you are at all interested in something like this, could you please take this very short "yes/no" survey so that I could tally and see if there is enough interest in this idea. Also, could you please let me know what you think of this idea? If enough people think this is worth the time I will build a  few tables and post pics.  Survey Link: Thanks, -S

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Can someone tell me if this idea will work.?

I am wanting to make a low powered soldering iron and I want to find out if using a sudden burst of elecricity from some sort of capacitor would be able to melt the solder. I have all the tools to make it but I dont know if it would work. Thank you in advance.

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Can this work for DIY 3d metal printing at home?

Using metallurgical powders with a precision depositing feeder, layout a layer at a time (obviously) of the part you want to develop within a certain size parameter.  Lower the layer into an induction heater coil to raise the temperature of the powder to just below the melting point then hit it with a low power laser to melt the powder together to make the part, again layer by layer.  Theoretically removing the need for high power lasers and either a vacuum chamber running constantly or a constant stream of shielding gas.  Edit: You apply a vacuum or shielding gas only during the fusion cycle, hence the induction furnace. Removes the need for expensive vacuum chambers or heavy use of shielding.

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photo on metal by laser macine

I have laser machine of evlaser, Italy  working with windows 98 and evedit software how i can make the photo on any metal like steel, brass. I think this machine before year 2000. The software of this machine is support only BMP and PLT files. Please help me .

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Pin-pointer metal detector front end not working.

Hi,I breadboarded the pin-pointer metal detector and am having trouble with the front end. pcounterA reads 11-14 on the serial port monitor.See previous question on instructibles reproduced below:_________________Asked by jont4e 2 days ago Hi, I bread-boarded your circuit for just the end coils to start, and loaded the sketch. It seems to be pulsing the coil OK but the leds aren't responding nor the buzzer. I uncommented the serial port code and it shows ledthreshold1 always at .97, pcounterA at 12, and calav1 at 81. Is this OK? (The other reported variables are always 1000.) I wound the end coils with some bifilar wire I reclaimed from a microwave HV supply transformer. I assumed that was OK? Do you have a flow chart or description of how the code works so I can troubleshoot? Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated. Jon T 0 Answer from TechKiwi... 2 days ago The pcounterA value should be much higher 200 to 800 at least. My advice is to focus on one channel. Try reversing the polarity of one of the coils as this often is the problem as the pulseIn function needs to have a clean leading edge to trigger the timing process. Ensure your breadboard connections to the coil are short and well grounded. If this does not work direct message me with a link to some photos of your setup and I will try to assist. I'm just building a second unit so your timing is fortuitous as I can provide some test measurements._______________________________Attached are images of the front end scope traces and a shot of the breadboard. Coils are off screen to the left.Swapping coil polarity did not seem to change any waveforms.Hope someone has some suggestions I can try.JT

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Microwave oven metal foundry?

Can you melt steel scraps in a heat resistant pot hot enough to mold or pour with a rewired MOT? What if you put multiple MOTs in series/parallel? how could you make into three phase (i want to know weather this works or not)?

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how do plasma cutter power supplies work? Answered

I built a small stick welder, now i plan to build a plasma cutter i am going to buy the torch head because it seems it would be hard to make one(if anyone has an easy way to make a torch please tell me) but what i need to know is what goes into a plasma cutter power supply, right now i have 2 transformers (20 volts, about 30 amps) i know for plasma cutting i need DC current. how much voltage and current is needed. i don't plan on cutting any really thick metal this is just a little experiment i want to try. so can you please provide a schematic of a power supply and explain to me what the required outputs are

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How to join metal to metal to create a T shape, no welding, no soldering?

Hi, i've been working on a spring loaded arm mechanism and ran into a problem. i need to join metal(1mm thick) onto another sheet in a sort of T shape. Gorilla glue brand epoxy has failed me. Any suggestions? 

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Would a t-shirt "ironing" machine work?

I already have a cardboard t-shirt folding machine, but i was wondering if it were made out of solid plastic or something, and included a metal plate on the parts which touch the clothing. Could the plate be heated and be used to not only fold the shirt but also iron it?

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Defeating Metal Detectors at Concerts? Answered

I plan to bring a camera to the future concerts of a singer. I believe fans have a right to do so. The camera will be hidden from sight, but I need a way to shield it from any metal detectors that may be used. Using a metal detector designed for coins, I found that steel wool can hide steel items from the detector in ferrous mode. But switching the detector to non-ferrous mode quickly reveals the steel wool. I have found no other material that has any desired effect. Perhaps I could carry something that transmits a jamming signal to the detector. Has anyone here had experience working on this problem and can offer a solution? ~Bob~

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Scrap Metal and Coal/Charcoal

Hey everyone, i was wondering if anyone in the Hollywood-Miramar-Pembroke Pines area of Florida USA has any old scrap iron, steel, charcoal, or coal they do not want and would be kind enough to offer it to me for free or for a reasonable price. I am doing blacksmith work so it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Things wanted: Bolts, car springs, brake drums, any kind of bar (round, flat, square, hexagonal, octagonal, etc.) lump charcoal, any large chunks of steel to be used as anvils, any old blacksmith tools such as hammers, etc.... anything donated is appreciated. Thanks again!

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does anyone know how to work with the rubber that looks like metal? and where I can get the rubber? Answered

Examples can be seen here I want to make my own costumes... those are nice... and expensive.

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Conductive Thread - what's it made of, and how does it work? Answered

Is it just a very, very fine bare metal wire, or does it have some sort of textile fiber core to give it more flexiblity and wear resistance (or is it a textile fiber that has inherent conductive properties itself)? Is it insulated like normal electrical wire? How does it differ from metallic embroidery thread?

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What type of metal would work best to make the piano (piano?) in music boxes? Answered

 I have been wanting to make a music box in large scale.  The music box I am referring to is a mechanism that when a crank is turned, a metal cylinder attached to the crank revolves.  Attached to the cylinder are metal teeth, which pluck a piece of slotted metal, like in the picture below (which I will be referring to as the piano, because I have no idea what term is actually used to describe it).  Usually these can be found in bookshops, and commonly play "somewhere over the rainbow".   As I mentioned, I want to construct one on a larger scale.  The problem is, I do not know what to make the "piano" with.  I tried an old tin lacquer can, but the metal proved to be too flimsy to produce the sound required.  Then again, I don't want something too hard to where it cannot be plucked.  Which type of metal would be best suited? In my previous attempt, I just scaled the image below, traced and cut it out.  Is there something that I'm missing, or is it just the metal? I have been running dry on Google, and can barely produce any images of the item I am looking for.

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What would you do with a ton of very rusty metal?

My place of work backs onto the beach in Portsmouth harbour (UK) - the shore is littered with many pieces of very rusty metal - mostly big bolts, rods, nuts, huge washers etc - from the engineering works that used to be here, but there are also bits of old hardware that look like they came from some of the derelict barges that lie rotting in the estuary mud.It's all in pieces small enough to pick up, and there's a ton of it. Some is so rusty that it's all rust, but most is merely heavily corroded/encrusted.There's got to be something interesting that can be done with all this material, but... what?

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epoxy gone wrong! can i start over?

I was working on a belt buckle with colored epoxy, but i screwed up mixing in the hardener. so it's still wet in some places and then it hardened real ugly in others. is there anything i can do about it or should i start over?

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Is there a specific rod to be used for welding aluminum together?

I need to weld a 3/8 inch thick piece of aluminum together. I was wondering if there was a specific rod to be used. I have 2011 1/8 rods. Just putting it out there. I never had to work with aluminum.

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needs idea for crafts

 I have a few hundred 2009 rabies tags ( i work for a vet) they are blue and flower shape, I am using the rings for another project but If anyone has suggestions I rather do something with them than recycle. I hope this is posted in the right place, this is my first post

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DIY Metal Rubber Band Gun

This rubber band gun works just like the wooden ones you've probably seen. The difference is that this is made of metal, has a safety, and includes a flashlight and laser sight. OK, just a wee bit over the top, but impressive. via bbgadgets

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Fine tip marker for guiding cutting/engraving small metal?

This is probably a simple question, but I'm having trouble finding something that works. I'm looking for a marker to make guide marks on where to cut or engrave metal. This is for jewelry, so I need a fine tip since it's small metal. It needs to be permanent enough to withstand the cutting/engraving while still being able to be washed off once I'm done.

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Building a Foundry?

So I've been experimenting with building a mini foundry made out of steel cans. I've experimented with several different fuels, fuel injection systems, oxygen injection systems, crucibles, and different metals. However, the only metal I've ever been able to melt with it is zinc. (if you don't know, zinc doesn't take alot to melt; only about 700F) My target metals are aluminum and copper, but despite over a year of experimenting, I've never been able to melt either. I would like to know what I'm doing wrong, or what I could do better. Here's the rundown of the furnace's construction: The fuel I'm currently using is propane. The foundry isn't big, (you could fit it in a backpack) so I just use propane canisters for torches with a normal output line on the end. The line runs to a small piece of glass laboratory tubing with a tiny nozzle on the end which is about 1 mm in diameter. The propane shoots out as a stream and mixes with air utilizing the venturi effect. The propane mix then shoots into a large metal pipe about 2 cm in diameter. It then bends up at a 90 degree angle and enters the furnace, which is in essence, a steel can with a hole in the bottom. inside this is a steel can cut in half with a thick wire through it to suspend it above the burner.  So what could be improved? When I run it at full blast, the whole furnace glows orange, but no metal melting happens...

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Would this tennis ball mortar design work?

I was thinking about using 3 pringles cans. I'd cut the metal bottoms off of 2 of them and tape them together ontop of the third one, which still has the metal. Then I'd tape/glue a capacitor from a digital camera onto the tennis ball and charge it up. It would hit the bottom, create a spark, and ignite the fuel. Would this work?

Question by Shadow94   |  last reply

Materials Suppliers for CNC type work

Hi, I've been digging around for material suppliers for machinable plastics, foams and metals (aluminum, copper, brass). I found McMaster-Carr and got great service and it is next day delivery, but shipping can be expensive. Amazon has acrylics and other polycarbs at sometimes reasonable prices. Who do you use as a supplier and has it been a good experience? Thanks, Andy

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What have you done to upgrade/improve your projects' professionalism? Answered

I was thinking aloud that while my projects work well, they do have the professional look of Michael Jackson's nose. Now that might be fine for Bubbles, but I feel that I need to make my work look like it was produced professionally. As a general roundabout - what have you done to improve the look of your project? If possible I'd be very interested in how you fabricated metal and plastics to a high standard that didn't break the bank - I'm still trying to do stuff on a small-ish budget. Thanks for reading me; keep well ;-)

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I,once, viewed a project making a desk/work,station out of metal shelving, such as could be found in awarehouse. I downloaded it, but, seem to have lost it.

I want to built the project I downloaded ,but, lost. It used metallic shelving. It was perfect for my space. I have looked long and hard ,  but do not find it. Any help is appreciated. Will

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Can't epoxy metal, help appreciated. Answered

I'm trying to epoxy two pieces of metal together, I'm mixing the epoxy the right way but once it hardens the piece breaks off, any suggestions? I'm gluing this flat piece of metal to the nut that's glued on the viewfinder.  The nut stays on the viewfinder with the same epoxy so I'm confused about why the other metals won't adhere, should I sand the pieces first? By the way I photographed the wrong side of the flat piece, the side showing has prongs, the other side is flat, the flat side gets glued to the nut. This is a viewfinder from an old Mamiya press camera, not sure what kind of metal it is.

Question by buffysissy1   |  last reply

diamond cutting steel.... Friction cutting?

Recently got a diamond wheel for angle grinder.   tho it is marketed to cut tile, marble, etc, i tried it on steel.  cuts quick enough, but leaves huge burrs. burrs 4x thicker than the workpiece.   seems the blade just melts and squishes the steel out of the way.  it works, kinda, leaving a hazardous ragged edge on the work... i see why they dont market those blades for  steel. im reminded of friction cutting blades.

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Best dark metal for solar absorbance.

What's the best metal for absorbing sunlight? ie, darkest. It needs to be immersed in ethanol, which will dissolve pretty much any paint etc. I've tried steel with some kind of enamel or anodised layer, but the eths started eating that too. Also whatever it was seemed to reduce the heat getting into the ethanol. And are there ways of making metal darker, chemically or through heating? I've been recommended getting something rusty and using a rust converter, which turns the oxidised layer into a phosphate, which is dark and might work well. Also.. are there other characteristics I should be paying attention to in order to maximise the amount of heat transferred to the fluid, like conductivity, emissivity, etc? Cheers.

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Metal Contest - Thank you Instructables and Lincoln Electric

Here's a great big THANK YOU to Instructables and Lincoln Electric. I just received my prize pack for the Metal Contest. I love it! The whole package is fantastic, but I can't stop playing with the Mini Multi Angle magnetic clamp. Can someone please tell me how it works? How can I just switch a magnet on and off? I'm intrigued.

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How to make a conveyor belt with no wood or metal?

Hello, I am a student who is working on a project. I was wondering if there was a way to create a conveyor belt with no wood or metal? The biggest concern for me is the motor. Thanks.

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