voltage multiplier bath

I saw the voltage multiplier Instructablehttps://www.instructables.com/id/High-Voltage-Multiplier/and I'm wondering if it's necessary to put it in oil.My capacitors would be severely under volted (that should be a word, the past tense of volt, LOL) and the diodes wouldn't even be challenged.

Topic by guyfrom7up   |  last reply

Can i use different capacitance values of capacitors for a voltage multiplier?

Question says it all

Question by ARJOON   |  last reply

How to make a voltage multiplier?

I need to make a voltage multiplier that is cheap and easy to make and can get up to 20 times the input voltage(12 volts).  Its for an electric car design.  Can anyone help?

Question by Kalrag   |  last reply

Voltage multiplier and magnetic force?

Does magnetic force affect how much energy is multiplied by per section in a voltage multiplier like the one in this instructables: https://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Variable-High-Voltage-Power-Supply/ ? I was thinking of making this multiplier and to make it a bit more variable to make a voltage multiplier (electro-magnets around the capacitors) like the ac voltage muliplier on sparkbandbuzz.com

Question by pmk222   |  last reply

how do i build a voltage multiplier for changing 6 volts to 12 volts using diodes and capasitors?

Hi, since my last question failed miserable resulting in me wasting a bunch of good dollars on a useless , and at the time what was described as a "voltage multiplier", uln2003an darlington transitor array which doent seem to do anything like i was told, i am going oldschool and building a voltage multiplier so i can switch a 12v relay card from here, to power 2 motors via remote control using a 9 amp 12 volt current (10 bats X 1.2v X 3A )X 3 sets in paralell , for my r/c tank which i have used a receiver from a toy car which i have increased its remote control signal to up to 100m away (its a 40mhz remote from china nothing special). anyway i am trying to aquire a 12 volt current ( any amperage above what seems to be less that 5 ma according to the relay cards description) from my receiver that gives me 6 volts 700ma from the motor and 4 volts 900ma for the servo. recently i lost a diode for one of the 4 relay cards i am using so i sent my mother to buy me a uln2003an from jaycar and a single 1n4148 diode from jaycar as well, somehow she was tricked into buying a 100 bulk pack (wich she payed twice for despite getting only 1 bulk pack) but did get me the diode i needed for the relay to work without blowing the "on " led rendeing the relay for somereason inoperable. i have 99 1n4148 diodes now and i want to know if i can make these into a voltage multiplier for the relay to get turned on at 12 volts, using capasitors as well, i know it can be doen, i just dont know what kind of capastor to use or how to assemble it once i have the capasitor. please help em i have een stuck with this for ages and the answer is no i dont know how to use a transistor to switch the relay all i see is 4 ports 12v in 12 v out (for switching relay on) and the switcing part wich is conected to relay contacts http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=ZR1105&keywords;=1n4148&form;=KEYWORD http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=KC5434&keywords;=relay+kit&form;=KEYWORD links to the diodes i have and the relay ard also heres the transistor i have http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=ZK8855&keywords;=uln2003&form;=KEYWORD despite description it says uln2003an on the chip

Question by oldmanbeefjerky   |  last reply

is it possible to make lightning gloves?

A friend of mine is offering me big bucks if i build him  a pair of lightning gloves which would shoot large sparks or lightning from one glove to the other. now because ive never built a voltage multiplier befor ei would like to know if theres any problems with my idea which is i get a  small 12v battery pack for racing car i connect that bttery (with a resistor ) to a transformer i then make a voltage multiplier with hv capasitors and diodes to multiply the voltage until a certain voltage is obtained. however i do not know how hoigh the voltage should be so that it is not lethal, but can jump at least one meter from one glove to the other. also as a safety precaution a large copper wire suit should be worn which me and my friend used on my uncles high voltage vandegraf generator whish shot 20m lighnting at us in our loighting suits ontop of our diving suits , and we never felt a thing. anyways, can you please tell e the specs of everything i will need to acomplish my mission?

Question by oldmanbeefjerky   |  last reply

How can I remove the diodes from a modern television flyback transformer?

I need high voltage diodes for a voltage multiplier that I am currently building, however, there is no way that my parents will let me buy any. Therefore, I think that the best place to get some would be a modern television flyback transformer. I have many of them and they are easy to find. I do not care about the rest of the transformer. The primary and secondary windings along with the plastic case will all be discarded. Unfortunately, my attempts with a dremel have all failed. What can I do?

Question by Xellers   |  last reply

What type of capacitors for Voltage Multiplier Circuit?

I want to make a voltage mutiplier circuit to get 30kV+ DC from 12kV AC, I'm not sure what type of capacitors to get or diodes. Also how many times does it multiply the voltage, for each set of 2 diodes and 2 capacitors

Question by JunaidA44   |  last reply

Coilgun, Marx Generator or Voltage Multiplier

I am building a coilgun and I have constructed a coil with several thousand turns, an ohm meter measures its resistance at 300 ohms, so I am having trouble powering it, I ran 240v through it and got nothing. According to my calculations, I need to run 1000 volts at the minimum through the coil in order for it to work. From my research there are three ways to do that: 1)A really big transformer (sub optimal for many reasons) 2)A Marx Generator 3)or with a Voltage Multiplier. Now I realize that you are supposed to connect the voltage multiplier to the Marx Generator, but wouldn't it be easier to just to make more multiplier stages and remove the Marx Generator entirely? I've seen voltage multipliers go up to 15kv, which is more than enough.

Topic by geekman2   |  last reply

voltage multiplier for flourecent tube driver?

I have a flouro tube driver from an old scanner, when i put 12v dc it i get a nice tiny spark across the output wires now i want to make the spark BIGGER how could i do it with not many parts?

Question by The nerdling   |  last reply

I'm making Cockroft-Walton generators again after some time and some problems I had, and I would like to ask some questions I couldn't answer by myself so I don't end breaking this new one I'm making. Is it bad to run the multiplier with the sole intention of making arcs? Could the discharge end damaging the diodes? I've been running the ones I created with UF4007 diodes, which have a peak amperage of 30A, now I'm using two BA159 in series (so I can set the voltage up to 2kV), they have a peak amperage of 20A. If yes I guess there's no easy solution for this, other than to reduce the discharge current or get beefier diodes. Regarding to the previous question, does the whole capacitor array discharges when an arc strikes, or just the last/lasts one/ones? Thanks for your time.

Question by Victor805   |  last reply

Battery voltage and current multiplier ?

Question by JohnM703

Parts for a high voltage supply?

I am trying to make a power 100-200kv power supply. I plan to do this by putting the positive output of a 7.5 kv flyback transformer through a cockroft walton multiplier. I have never done something like this before, so I am not completely sure about everything. I plan to make the multiplier with 14-15 stages. I thought that it would be okay to use 10 kv DC 1000pf ceramic disk capacitors in the multiplier. One thing I'm not sure about though is whether or not the flyback outputs DC or AC electricity. I assume it is DC since the input is rectified, but if it still is producing AC then I should probably use 15-20kv rated caps. The main thing is that I don't know what diodes to use. I thought I would use 1N4007 or something similar but the peak reverse voltage is only 1 kv. Does anyone know what type of diode to use, and where to get it at a reasonable price (below \$2 per unit preferably)?

Question by Higgs Boson   |  last reply

Where can i find prints to a voltage multiplier for 9or 12 v?

I need to build a voltage multiplier for 9v to about 4kv

Question by tulavatalo   |  last reply

How do you remove the high voltage diode from inside of a modern television flyback transformer?

I recently acquired an AC flyback transformer from an old vacuum tube television. I am planning on making a voltage multiplier for it to achieve voltages of 100kV +. Unfortunately, there is absolutely no way that my parents will let me buy anything at this moment, so I need a source of high voltage diodes and capacitors. Luckily, I have a big bag of capacitors, but I have no high voltage diodes. I do, however, have a pile of modern television flyback transformers that have built in high voltage diode stacks inside of them. I am wondering if there is anyway for me to liberate them. I do not care about the rest of the transformer. The coils can be damaged beyond all hope or repair, as long as I get the diodes out. So far all of my attempts at dremeling the transformers have resulted in a big white puff of dust from the insulation inside of the transformer. Any help is appreciated - Thank you.

Question by Xellers   |  last reply

Micro High Voltage

I'm going to attempt to make a super micro tesla coil that is 100% contained (unless it runs off of like 12 volts dc, then I'll use a wallwart). Of course, one of the i biggest problem is the power supply. So this is what I'm asking, what's the best way of ramping up the voltage? A tiny toroid transformer? An inductor that gets pulsed? Voltage Multiplier? Something with static electricity? Some type of Inverter? Using Greinacher Cascades? A marx generator hybrid? Other stuff I havn't heard of?

Topic by guyfrom7up   |  last reply

Can someone share with me a schematic to multiply a dc source? That produces, obviously a higher, output. Answered

I have a bug zapping raquet and i would like to increase the voltage to create bigger spark gaps. Portability is key. Output in AC or DC doesnt matter to me, but I guess AC would get better arcs.

Question by blindpyro   |  last reply

Why not get high voltage by boosting 300V to say 2KV ?

Hi, I plan to build High Voltage of 4KV. The output current is very low (say 100uA). I intend to use this as focus voltage in a CRT application. Hence, I am exploring the ways to do so. I have seen people building high voltage (8-20KV) using transformer followed by voltage multipliers. Now a days, MOSFETs are available which can withstand voltage upto 4.5KV. So it should be possible to create boost converter which could boost 300V to 2KV. Then one can further boost the voltage using voltage multipliers. The input voltage of 300V is achieved by rectifying the line voltage of 220V/50Hz. Visiting internet, I do not see anybody doing so. Hence I wonder what could be wrong in doing something of this kind. Could somebody elaborate ? Regards, Hardeep

Question by hardeeps   |  last reply

How can I multiply/double (or just increase) voltage in a DV 5v curcuit ???

ok i have the following parts to ue for this: (all leftovers from former project..)  :) 1x mosfet IRF510 power transistor 5,6A 100V 9x 2N3904 amplifier transistors 40V 0,2 A .0.625 W ~16x 1uF capacitors 50V ~99x recifier diodes 1A 50V ~35x 2k resistors  0.25 W the idea is to charge a battery pack consisting of 4x 1,2-1,25V = 4,8-5V 3000mah AA nimh batteries using my 5v usb wall charger that has 1A output! i tried connecting the battery pack directly to + and - and 'i think' its starting to charge but after 1-2 hours at full rate (5v 1a) it should be at least 50% charged (3 hours would be full charge -> 5W x 3 = 15W), but if i connect them they last for about 2 -3 minutes and then empty again!! so after this im concerned that i might need at lest 6V-10V to achieve the desired effect !!  -> charge 15W NIMH batterpack with wall charger (nokia ac-60e.. 1-1,5A) i nless than 3 hours (as like a phone would need !!) therefore i need a cuirciut (ONLY DC) to double my 5V OUTPUT to 10V (yiou shouldnt apply more than twice the curent of a batter pack) or ideally 6-7 V but i dont know if thats possible without a swiching IC or more different resistors.. so just doubling would be nice at the moment!!

Topic by sblocc10   |  last reply

Cockcroft–Walton High Voltage Power Supply

Greetings! I have wanted to begin experimenting with high voltages recently and have already collected a series of projects that I would like to conduct. The only issue is that of my high voltage power supply. I have not the funds or resources to buy into a NST or MOT system and ended up looking for alternatives. I at first tried the ignition coil route that ended in failure and have now moved on. My question is, will a Cockcroft–Walton generator be able to run say, a tesla coil, jacob's ladder, or even a farnsworth fusor given that the necessary voltage is outputted from the multiplier.  Kind of between a rock and a hard place here, Thanks anyway!

Topic by SidC1   |  last reply

How many farads do I need (capacitor)?

I'm making a voltage multiplier circuit which involves the use of diodes and capacitors but I'm not sure how many farads I'd need for the capacitors. The input voltage for the first stage is 12kV 30mA.

Question by JunaidA44   |  last reply

Help application note on for High voltage supply of 12kv, 6kv from 24V AC, 50

Dear forum members. I am looking for HV multiplier circuit that accept 24V AC, 50 Hz and convert it to two HV outputs 1) 6KV , 2 mA 2) 12 KV , 2mA Can anybody have such application details, or made by themselves, or any app note reference. OR anyone had instructables on this site. Please give me such details on my email id "bdmehta@yahooo.com Regards, Bharatkumar

Topic by bdmehta

can I turn 2A into 5A? Answered

I am makinga hot wire foam cutter and using the hot wire foam calculator from Shawn James and it says that I need a supply of 7.5V 5A, but my transformer only gives 2 A. I've seen voltage multipliers and I don't know if there's a current multiplier. If so, please give me the instructions to make one.

Question by tgferreira184   |  last reply

how to convert High Voltage DC into AC without changing Voltage? DO CAPACITORS WORK ON HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT? Answered

I want to build a Spark Gap Tesla Coil but the problem is that I am unable to find a neon sign transformer locally. so i decided to a voltage multiplier. But its output is DC which means that Capacitors (most probably) not work. so please can you tell me how to convert dc to ac without changing its voltage. ALSO, I was wondering whether a capacitor will work with high frequency flyback transformers or not. ????????????????????????????????

Question by SHREYANSH_HV   |  last reply

How do you build a small High voltage high frequency power supply? Answered

I need the plans/general guidance to build a high voltage/high frequency power supply like the one used here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQReIW8f1Q&feature=plcp  . He describes it as "A small ignition-coil, driven by a simple NE555-circuit feeds a 2-stage-multiplier. 12kV out...almost no current, but as you see: Enough to start a fire." Im not sure how to build that.

Question by lug big lug   |  last reply

do capacitors like this work?

Do capacitors like these:http://cgi.ebay.com/20KV-1000PF-High-Voltage-Ceramic-Disc-Capacitors-Y5T_W0QQitemZ360099674640QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Electronic_Components?hash=item360099674640&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318work in applications like voltage multipliers, marx generators, etc. Or are they meant for something else? They seem like a really good deal and I just don't want to buy a ton of them to fail on me in like 2 seconds.

Topic by guyfrom7up   |  last reply

I want to increase my 4.5v DC to 9v DC (actually little above 9v. 10v will be good), so plz help me out for this...?

and current 0.5Amp is required......hoping any voltage multiplier circuit can do it. plz help.  srrry bad English!!

Question by anuk07   |  last reply

easy way of converting dc into ac

Does anybody know of an cheap simple circuit, using only a few components, to convert dc into ac or pulsed dc? I'm going to be using a super capacitor that's rated for 2.5 volts and I want more out of it, so the output is going to be put through a voltage multiplier circuit.

Topic by guyfrom7up   |  last reply

How much Ampage (aprox) can you get out of a basic voltage doubler? Answered

What valus caps should I use? Is bigger better? (regerding the caps) Can you use electrolitic caps? Will a full-wave multiplier give more current then a half-wave? I'm looking at doubling 12V to aprox.24V for a fairly high ampage aplication (>4A) Can it be done? (I don't have a 1:2 transformer, and am unable to buy one) Thanks so much!!! Every and Any bit of help or advice is greatly apreaciated. Thanks again,                        Mike

Question by muttyfutty   |  last reply

Sensor Help with Arduino

Hi all! I need help with trying to figure out datasheets. I was digging through my electronics when I found and LM35 sensor. So I looked up the datasheet but I couldn't find out how to convert the analog output to a temperature. I found an i'ble on how to do it but I want to know how to find that information in the datasheet so that next time I get something I'll be able to do it myself. I looked at all the curves and none of them seemed to be temperature vs. voltage. I also looked through the whole first part and couldn't find the multiplier. Also does that multiplier change with the amount of voltage you supply the LM35 with? Say I use 5 volts. Will it give a different reading over 4.5 volts? There's so much technical and complicated data that I don't know what to look for. Here is the link to the datasheet http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm35.pdf Thanks!

Topic by HavocRC   |  last reply

how can you use a tetrode in a vttc? Answered

I have this ww2 nos 803 pentode tube that can be used as a tetrode tube. It has a 350 watt rating and i want to use it in  a class c armstrong oss. How would i do that, and what resistors should i use, the power supply is a 2kv voltage multiplier

Question by electricfan   |  last reply

Is there an inbuilt voltage doubler/tripler in Modern half-wave DC DST flyback or just a inbuilt diode?

Hi, I have dc half wave modern type DST flyback from a   computer  CRT and put out around 30kv. I wonder: Is there an inbuilt voltage doubler/tripler in  these modern half-wave DC DST flyback or just a inbuilt diode?  I became every confused from very contradiction   info.   Why I ask? I want to know as well as I would want to build a multiplier for the flyback.   I know mine isn't the old AC type but the DST should be a DC  pulsed ...The  flyback I have just  looks like these typoical modern DST ones here: http://www.imagebam.com/image/b88cbf268367234 . Your help would be tremendously relieving for me. I have been struggling to  find out  for a while now...  Thanks a lot

Question by leviterande   |  last reply

How to use an op-amp?

Hi, I've got an op-amp, the part number is OP07CP and I am trying to use it to amplify a voltage by around about 200 times. My set up is 6v going into a voltage divider with one resistor of 100ohm and a variable resistor of 10,000-50,000 ohm, so the output is 10mV-50mv. What I want to do is have the op-amp proportionally increase the voltage, so it goes to a voltage range of 1-5v, which an arduino can read. The power supply is  5v (from the arduino) and the powers both the voltage divider and the op-amp. For some reason, following the simple non-inverting op-amp configuration I just can't get it to work. Do I need a separate power source for the amp? I think it might have something to do with the fact that the amp's ground, input and negative are all just going to the arduino's ground. What can I do to fix it? If someone could help or even give me exact values and configurations of components that would be fantastic. I know that the amp and divider seem like a pointless complication if was just trying to measure the output of the variable resistor, but if you knew the greater extent of my project it would make more sense. Cheers

Question by makincoolstuff   |  last reply

Power Supply Question? Answered

Question by -max-   |  last reply

ion ray gun

Remeber a while ago I said I wanted to make some cool high voltage weapon in the shape of a gun? Well I've dicided to make an ion ray gun! The only problem is that I don't want to pay for plans (that's just not right, half the time they probably jip you). The closest thing I've found is this:http://www.freeinfosociety.com/site.php?postnum=250but that doesn't help me with saftey procosions (sorry, having a bad spelling day).Basically I need help for the schematics and the safe way to build and handle one. I don't want a wimpy one either, I want a medium power one, like do stuff from 10-20 feet or something like that.Oh and if possible, skip extra circuits by using something like this:http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G9695I also don't mind making voltage multiplier circuits.If everything works I'll make an instructable out of it!Oh, and tech-king, you can use the sign now.

Topic by guyfrom7up   |  last reply

PSU design (major revisions): Transformer calculations help?

Question by -max-   |  last reply

What power supply and wiring setup should I use for an LED lighting fixture? Answered

I'm trying to build a light from LEDs. I managed to pick up 40 Bright white LEDs for \$4 and want to put them all together into one light fixture. I know a bit about electronics, but I'm stumped on what kind of power supply I should build and how I should wire them. They are 3V 20mA. When building it should I multiply the voltage or the amperage? And should I run them in series or parallel? Any help would be appreciated. And please don't just give a "Do this" answer. I'm looking for more of "Do this because this is how it works." Thank you.

Question by animomne   |  last reply

Power Electronics: power converter Answered

I have been running through example questions for an exam I have coming up; the following picture is a condensed version of half a page of working. My lecturer gave us the solutions and a few steps between beginning and end to get to the solution so we could work it out. However, as you can see the picture below I got 30.6A whereas she wrote 54.2 down. The problem is to "Find the maximum values of the average" (done this bit) "and rms thyristor currents for any firing angle, alpha.". The values of R and Vs are in the diagram. Alpha is assumed to be 0 since then the thyristors will conduct for the greatest possible length of time. I think she may have got to the end then forgotten to square root of Pi before multiplying Vm/2PiR by it. Does anyone agree?

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Calculate capacitance across full wave bridge rectifier? Answered

OK,so I need an AC to DC converter.I used a 9 Volts transformer to convert 220VAC to 9VAC,then rectified it to 9VDC using a full wave bridge rectifier(IN4007).I need to know the value of capacitance which is to be connected to the 9 volt DC output(I heard somewhere that its got by multiplying the forward current*5 then dividing it by input voltage to the rectifier and the result is obtained in Farads........well I'm not sure if this is right and I need clarification).I've currently used a 1000uf capacitor and my multimeter shows the dc output from the bridge as 14 volts which is really confusing because before I used the capacitor it showed 9 volts.I really need a way to deal with capacitance.Pls do help me. I've added some pics(not much of help but.....)

Supercapacitor for power supply design?

Hi I am new to electronics but I have studied the basics and the logic. I have 6 3000 farad supercapacitor from Maxwell(not the boost cap one) with a power rating of 3 watt- hour, so each capacitor holds about 10.8 kilo watts(3 watt x 3600 seconds= 10,800 watts). So I have been wanting to make a power supply out of these and two types have ran across my mind: 1. Turning them to a voltage multiplier type of circuit( so like a voltage multiplier but the capacitor is these capacitors). So I would have an output of 500 amperes(6 3000 farad capacitors in series would have a capacitance of 3000f/6=500f) and output voltage of 16.2 volts. For charging this power supply I will use a step down transformer connected to the mains with some circuit breaker, fuse, switch and ballast/ resistor at its input, the transformer will step it down to approximately 2 volts ac which then I will rectify with a bridge rectifier. 2. Putting them in parallel so I would have a total capacitance of 18,000 farad at 2.7 volts, and putting them in parallel with my power supply. So this works by charging the bank and the bank will discharge when fully charged. The power supply will be the same like the first design power supply. However this circuit seems very risky and I might need some feedbacks. For your information I live in Indonesia and the wall outlet have 220 volts with amperage of ~20 amperes So I have some questions which are: Q1. Which power supply design is more ideal in terms of safety and efficiency? And how can I improve? Q2. For power supply design 2, I believe I might need some "system" for timing the charge and discharge of the bank,what circuit or system should I use/ make? How about using relay? Or spark gap? Q3. What should I do to avoid explosion of capacitor in both power supply Q4. What components are recommended for the charging power supply and what diodes are recommended for the design one capacitor bank? I already have the thick wires necessary for this since i know both systems deliver huge amount of power. And please inform me if there is any mistake or anything wrong. Any input is very greatly appreciated, you don't meed to answer all question since i know is a lot and i don't want to waste anyone's precious time. Thank you so much for your time.

Question by dikap123   |  last reply

How to make power bank with 8 rechargable AA batteries?

I'm a nobody at electronics, electricals and stufs. well i have some rechargeable batteries for some reasons,. 2 of my friend has a portable power bank for their phone. then curiously thinking if i can make that kind of stuf.. (DIY),.. if it possible please help me make this... my AA batteries is 1.5V with 500mah of power if i'm right. , then multiply by 8 so that will be 12V with 4000mah of power? right?. then i want this to charge my phone... recently searching i need to drop the voltage to 5, because if not, my phone battery will or might explode., then my phone will be damaged?.. so i need to make a circuit,, then that my problem, i dont know any thing about resistors and things like LM317, just i don't know anything about that.. i need it be able to be recharge and charge my phone, so here's another question, expect the wee did make something like that, then how will i be able to charge it?, it's 12v right from the inside? right?.. that all, hope we can make something like this,, if there's a related post, which has been already answered, if this is not possible.. That all.. Advance Thanks for helps...

Question by ZoneOne26   |  last reply

how do i make an ac current with a battery? Answered

Hi, i have searched over the internet many a time, looking for how to make pulsating dc or an ac current, however all my results end up with devices which use ac or pulsating dc, which is comming from some homemade ac-dc converter running of mains. now, i am trying to find out how i can use a aa battery to aquire an ac current, or pulsating dc current, preferebly using parts aquirable from a disposale camera. the reason i need ac or pulsating dc is so that i can build a voltage multiplier, and also a tazer. i have tried plasmanas instructable on making a worlds smallest shocker, but it just doesnt work, if you cant get the specific transistors and transformers only aquirable from polaroid brand disposable cameras. plus there are no details on where to buy the parts, or even their details, beyond resistance and capacitance values. the main thing though is that i need to make the pulsating dc or ac from a portable power supply, aka a battery, as i also wish to make a dc-dc boost converter to use on different components within my rc tank. please help, whoever can answer my question best will receive a " best answer"

Question by oldmanbeefjerky   |  last reply

How to make a lightweight 10kv 500 watt power supply?

I need to convert up to 500 watts of 12 volt to at least 10 kv. It's important that it has both +10kv and -10kv. Right now I'm thinking flyback converter driven by a 555 to 1000 volts then voltage multiplier to 16kv. It's important that it's light so I don't want a regular flyback transformer. I'm wondering how duty cycle effects a transformer. Does it effect it like it would with an inductor-based boost converter? If so, then according to this calculator http://www.ladyada.net/library/diyboostcalc.html I would need an 88% (88% high?) duty cycle to get 12 volts up to 100 volts with a boost converter. Does this mean with a 1-10 transformer I could get 1000 volts from 12 volts with an 88% duty cycle? If so, then I need a light weight 1-10 transformer. I'm thinking winding a toroidal transformer will be best? So I could get a ferrite toroid (I'm thinking material 61, size 114) and wind a 1-10 transformer, but I need to make sure it doesn't saturate. Do I find out the saturation just like I would an inductor in a boost converter? If so, then according to the same calculator, the higher the output current, the less henries I need. So that means if I don't draw enough power it will saturate? I'm probably going to use 25 khz, so according the the calculator, if it's 100 watts then I need a little over a 25 henry primary. But if I use 500 watts, then I only need a little over 5 henries? This doesn't seem right. Soooo according to this toroid winding calculator http://www.66pacific.com/calculators/toroid_calc.aspx with a material 61, size 114 toroid, I would need 2 primary turns if it was drawing a minimum of 100 watts (the lower inductance/higher current can't be right can it?) and then I would need 200 turns. Sooo my question are (haha) is this a good idea for a light weight high power hv power supply, if so are the similarities I'm assuming between boost and flyback converter correct, and if so, how many/how do I figure out how many windings I would need on each side of a toroidal transformer/ how do I figure out what inductance I need for the primary. I have pretty good experience making boost converters but I've never made anything hv. Very long question thank you this is for an ion thruster.

Question by sk8aseth   |  last reply