A "death" in the family... Answered

good with a nice cuppa of fruity tea .go and by a new one it dosent look good

How do you give an Egg CPR ? LOL

Start CPR on an egg, but save an omelet!

an omelet ? isn't that normally worn around one's neck ? Oh wait, that's an amulet ... my bad. ;-) Omelets can be cheesy.... ;-)

Mmmmm... cheesie!

I should know.....some have daubed me the king or at least the prince of "cheesie" LOL That reminds me: why in the world can I not get Stilton here (without paying through the nose at a fancy cheese shop)?

I'm not a fan of Stilton (plus, the mould is too close to penicillin for Kitewife, and sets off her allergies). I am rather partial to a nice Wensleydale, or a crumbly Cheshire or Lancashire.

They're really nice in a sandwich with white crusty bread, butter and a nice tart blackcurrant jam. Failing that, just a nice lump of Wensleydale in one hand and a pint of a decent bitter in then other.

Ah, yes, all good English cheeses to be had in any decent cheese shop. Never seen them in the states. Any mizuki(sp?) players in those cheese shops?

They're all in supermarkets over here - most of the cheese shops are closed and the musicians are all unemployed or farming Norwegian Blues.

Hold on! We went from ummmmmmm digital death to CPR to mold and then finally we're talking about cheese!!! Why don't we just disuss the Loch Ness Monster.

Why dear Hawaiian, because Nessie's a hoax.

Or at least a fig-newton of someone's imagination ;-)

I watched a test on TV -

As part of a tour, a coach load of Nessie tourists were taken to a bay where sightings had been made on previous occasions. Unbeknownst to the tourists, a pulley system was rigged up under water to allow an unadorned telegraph pole to bob vertically to the surface for a few seconds and then disappear.

As soon as it was spotted, the pole was pulled back underwater and the "guide" gave out paper and pencils for the tourists to record the sighting.

All the pictures showed animals - they added heads, teeth, fins, crests, scales, tales, the whole nine yards.

People see what they expect to see, which is why Nessie ranks right up there with ghosts, angels, seances, aliens and miracles as gullible-folk mythology.

I'd say most angel sightings are imagination, as well as ghosts, and miracles. Don't think any aliens and don't know anything about seances. The big problem with all of the experiments I've read about things that deal with faith is the scientists leave too many variables. Spiritual experiments require an exertion of faith. Can't leave that out or it's just positive thinking.

Can we get back to cheese

I'm not rising to the bait, RS, except to say that the science tries not to leave any variables out of consideration.

Try looking for the various researches that have been done on the effects of prayer by the faithful. I don't have any references to hand, but you'll find that the faithful die at an equal rate to the faithless, get cancer at an equal rate to the faithless, suffer disasters at an equal rate to the faithless (although fires in churches tend to skew the results to show faith is a bad insurance risk), win the lottery at an equal rate to the faithless and get divorced at an equal rate to the faithless.

Specific studies on the effect of prayer on recovery showed that patients who were told that a group of people were praying for their recovery actually did worse than patients who were told that nobody was praying for them, or that were told that somebody might be praying for them, the doctors weren't sure.

The experiments didn't just account for faith, they required that a proportion of their subjects had it in significant quantities.

(But you were expecting that sort of response - we both know this is a subject we will never agree on, but I couldn't resist making that point. Pax?)

It's not bait. You just stated stuff as fact that you don't know is fact, some stuff that I happen to know a bit about. Just making my two cents. As for faith in experiments, I believe you on death rates, etc, but not how one qualifies faith. For one reason, people lie. Research into even consumption of groceries compared to dumpster diving their actual trash shows that. One can't tell faith or "a lot" of faith by proclamation from the "faithful". Anyhow, religions in which the participants actually live according to guidelines that differ from accepted societal norms tend to have much fewer divorces. Pax.

but you'll find that the faithful die at an equal rate to the faithless, get cancer at an equal rate to the faithless...

Not to be disagreeable, but there is some evidence that has scientific background, although it is not related JUST to faith, it involves "belief": and that is the Placebo Effect.

Here is a listing of several Placebo Optional reasons for them working....

I have also discovered that people will "not" see something they expect not to be there. This explains the "why can't I find my car keys" syndrome, when they are lying in plain sight.. I have a brother that thinks like this all the time.....he even thinks VISTA is the best OS since sliced bread or the Video Toaster LOL

Ah the video toaster. That was a good hunk of hardware. Amigas sure were ahead of their time.

well, over here, our bleu cheese is somewhat salty (and since I have never had the Stilton type, I am always game on trying something new in the culinary market - especially cheeses). (ok, I just noted one place said that Wensleydale comes in a type {one of four} with blue veins in it, and is not as salty as Stilton *sigh*) Just as I would be if I ever saw the names: Wensleydale, or a crumbly Cheshire or Lancashire. Of the descriptions I could pull up of these, the farm made Lancashire sounds the most promising of being "different" than our local stuff.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHEESE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pretty fond of Orpington cheese m'self.

Hmm, back when I was a member of the "cheese of the month" club, over 30 years ago, I enjoyed a soft cheese that was dubbed "lover's cheese" but I have been unable to locate it since. Everything I find online is not what i remember (of course, my memory could be defective. too). It was a heavenly cheese too :-)

There's always one, isn't there?

Sounds fun?

It's one of those Japanese cyber pets.