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A quick RAID question! Answered

I want to have a larger amount of space on my server and also be able to keep all my music and whatnot together. I currently have a 160gb drive in this pc that is full to the brim with music (oh that will be fun finding places for it all). And I have a 160 in the server with random backup files and whatnot, what I'd like to do is set it up with RAID 0, so I have around 320gb of space all together. I was wondering though what anyone thought of doing this if it was very safe if one of the drives fail, I realize I'd loose all the data on the one drive, but would it be possible to recover the data on other other drive still?

Also, these aren't sata drives, so I'll have to use window's built in RAID controller thingy. Perhaps I should just pull out a bunch of old hard drives and rig them up to one of my test mobo's and try it with that first? Can you raid USB and ide drives together? 

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lemonie

9 years ago

Why RAID it? If you can plug two drives into the same machine, do no more than that.
The board's RAID function would apply to ATA and SATA separately in pairs / quads, I'm not aware of USB RAID support.

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Punkguytalemonie

Reply 9 years ago

 Hm okay.. but I wanted to be able to combine both drives under the same drive letter, I suppose to make it easier for me (to centralize all my files). Perhaps I should just do what you suggest and keep one drive for my music, and the other for videos and whatnot. But damn.. now I'll need a third one for holding what I have on the server already.

I'm trying to figure out someway of getting more space on my server, without splitting it up over many drives, or if I were to set up a couple computers with some spare hard drives, I don't want them all split up by a whole bunch of shares.

There is something I've wanted to try, microsoft makes something called Windows Storage server 2008, and apparently one of it's features allows you to "pool" together storage from other computers on the network (presumable running storage server 08 also). This is a good question I've had for a while now, if I were to set it up like that, say, I have one computer be the storage controller. I could take say a motherboard with 5 pci slots, fill them with ethernet cards, have one connected to my network, and the other 4 connected to spare motherboards I have laying around. Once I have windows installed on the spare motherboards, I could put effectively 3 usable hard drives on each motherboard (the 4th for the os) and raid them together under one drive letter, then share that drive letter via NFS or samba or whatever windows chooses to use, and my storage controller in theory would see these computers and be able to "pool" them together. 

I want to try that idea there more than the idea of putting my other 160 in the server so I have a matching set of hard drives. What do you think lemonie??

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lemoniePunkguyta

Reply 9 years ago

I don't think striping them is going to give you an advantage, a media player can source from multiple drives. Then again big drives aren't that expensive these days, you could just buy a new one?
I've known people combine all the disks they had (small) on a PCI card which would only run under Windows ME, and the whole machine sucked...
If it sounds good try it, I'm struggling to imagine 160 Gb of music, that's what? - months of continuous play without repetition?

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Punkguytalemonie

Reply 9 years ago

 That's true, while it can source from multiple drives, I thought it would keep things simple and eliminate and possible hiccups in my network.

You're right, I plan to buy a couple 1TB hd's the first chance I have some money burning in my pocket, but for now I have to make do with what I have.

That sounds do-able with the pci card, but it would only make sense if I were to use multiple pci ata cards to maximize the throughput... but then again pci is only a 66mhz bus when on a p3 mobo or newer, the built in ide controller is usually capable of 133mhz, allowing full UMDA.

What do I have 160gb of music for? I really love music, and I'm picky about the quality, I've been working on switching my mp3 library over to flac, and while the quality improvement is worth it, I'm finding myself running out of space fast. I have 2,608 flac files in one folder alone, which doesn't seem like much considering my mp3 library consists of 10,834 mp3 files, the flac folder takes up 57gb worth.

I reckon if I had 500gb that would probably be all I need for my music needs, my planned video library, well thats another story. The idea setup for me would be dual raid contollers in a computer with sata hard drives, and have 4x 2TB sata drives, both running in seperate RAID 0 configuration, allowing me 2TB for music and 2TB for videos, both backed up, and both sharable over the network. Would that not be oodles of space or what?

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lemoniePunkguyta

Reply 9 years ago

I've used RAID sockets as extra non-RAID sockets: they only become RAID when configured. See if the board will let you run the 4 drives without a RAID configuration.

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NachoMahma

9 years ago

.  Do not use RAID0 for important data. RAID0 is designed for speed, not reliability.
.  Both of my RAIDs are RAID1 for maximum reliability. I use a RAID controller to take some of the load off of the mobo.
.  RAID5 is not quite as reliable as RAID0, but it's close and allows virtually unlimited drive size.