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Are you guys up for a challenge, I need a hand with something Answered

Well, peeps, I got a challenge you guys are going to help me with. Let me explain what it's about. We pay $35 something a month for 3mbit internet. I've only ever seen 1.3-1.5mb of it. The CO (Centeral office, it's a brick building they place in each "area" and it handles all the telephone and internet connections for you area, most isp's have one or more in each town they cover and those buildings are linked with fibre optic cables) is just down my street, I can practically walk out my front door, down the street and see it. So I'm rather close, and to top that, tiverton (where I live) is where my isp decided to set home, the "HQ" is just a km down the road from my CO building. Logic tells me that I should and have the right to get all of that 3mb I pay for, I can see if I live a certain distance away, but I don't. Here's where it get's a bit interesting, I was suggested to by dijital101 to run some cat-5 cable between the junction box and my dsl modem. Well that's just what I did today, I bundled the 8 seperate wires into two big wires (4 each) and even soldered them to ensure a good connection. Ran the wire, connected it all, attached a phone plug onto the other end of the ethernet cable and got it all hooked up. Well wouldn't you know, I see not one bit of differnce. Speed tests still show like 1.2-1.5mb (When It starts, it takes forever to even build up speed). But Interestingly enough...I get full upload speed (512k is what I get for up). When I'm uploading something too, such as files or torrents, if I let it go the full 70kb/s it limits my download speed to 30kb/s around there. This is something I've had to put up with for a long time, if anyone is familiar with "BMTS" that's my isp. My question is, what is there I can do to fix it? I even unhooked the wire coming off the telephone pole, cut the ends off and re-stripped the wires and that did nothing either. The wires are pretty old and tarnished, even under the rubber coating, and they're kinda peeling too. Should I call my isp up and complain again, think they'd come and replace the line? I just don't know what to do, if I can fix it, I'm going to cable internet.

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HamO
HamO

13 years ago

Congratulations, I didn't see one foul word in this post, but your attitude still beams through brightly. Well maybe not brightly.

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 13 years ago

> Well maybe not brightly. . I resemble that remark. heehee

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trebuchet03
trebuchet03

13 years ago

I bundled the 8 seperate wires into two big wires (4 each) and even soldered them to ensure a good connection.

I'm surprised that worked at all. Network cables also rely on their geometric position (inside the cable) to ensure no interference.


What are you using to benchmark?

I recommend www.speedtest.net --- using torrents and alike are not ideal for testing connection speed.


We pay $35 something a month for 3mbit internet.
It's likely that you pay for up to 3... And for $35, I'm 99% sure that's not dedicated

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 13 years ago

. I didn't pay just a whole lot of attention to my contract, but I think it said something like they would make an honest effort to provide me with 24/7, 4Mb, but they wouldn't promise full-speed all the time. IIRC, I have to be w/o service for at least 24 hours before they will issue a credit. . I complained about slow speed once and within a week I had a new service drop (squirrels had chewed off a bunch of insulation). No big deal. . . Of course if Punkguyta deals with his provider like what he has displayed here, I can understand him having problems getting things fixed. ;)

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 13 years ago

I was using speakeasy.net, which speedtest.net also includes. I was not using torrents to test it, sheesh. And I read the user agreement statement when we got it hooked up and it said whatever about they can't garentee full speed if you live an X amount of meters away, but I'm way under that alloted amount of distance, they should be able to do something shouldn't they? And Of course the network cable is going to work.

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trebuchet03
trebuchet03

Reply 13 years ago

And Of course the network cable is going to work.

If you're not going to take advice... why are you asking for help? There's a reason Cat5 is a twisted pair cable. If you've taken a physics class in the past --- think back to electromagnetism -- pass a current through a wire and you get a magnetic field. Similarly, change a magnetic field near a wire -- you get a current. Twisted pair wires are designed (carefully) to minimize crosstalk due to internally generated magnetic fields. The tighter the twist, the higher the quality -- break up the cables and all you're adding is noise. This is why, when you make cables, you can't untwist the wires too much when crimping on a connector (even for phone lines).

And I read the user agreement statement when we got it hooked up and it said whatever about they can't garentee full speed if you live an X amount of meters away

Read it again to see if it says anything about a dedicated connection. For what you just said, they can't guarantee full speed if you live X distance away. BUT, they never said full speed -- all the time. Really, for $35, I highly doubt it's dedicated. You're likely to reach your highest speeds at 4 in the morning, when no one else in your neighborhood is around to pull you down (unless they're on massive downloading sprees).

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 13 years ago

> I'm surprised that worked at all. Network cables also rely on their geometric position . Since it worked at all, I was assuming he was using "ethernet" cable to run a single UTP phone line to the modem. . Very good point about not using P2P for speed benchmarks. . If the problem is not in the premise wiring, I've had very good luck with the phone companies living up to the specs - especially that close to the CO. It can get very frustrating finding the right person to talk to, but once you do it usually goes well. . When I got high-speed I'net, the cable company first installed and then started upgrading "the last mile." My bandwidth was slightly restricted until I got new copper to the house.

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 13 years ago

I didn't use p2p programs to test my speed if you had paid proper attention, that's just ludicris. And that's just the thing, the copper that comes to my house is old, it's starting to get brittle, and it's getting fairly tarnished.

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 13 years ago

. And I find it ludicrous (if you're going to attempt to use "big words" at least learn how to spell them), that someone would ask for help and then denigrate the answer of someone trying to help. . > And that's just the thing, the copper that comes to my house is old, it's starting to get brittle, and it's getting fairly tarnished. . If you already know what the problem is ... > I know how to do this stuff on an expert level . and know how to fix it ... . then why are you bothering me and the other users?

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

13 years ago

. Since you don't seem to be too sure about what you're doing, I'd get a knowledgable friend/acquaintance to double-check the wiring in your house (out to the demarcation point). The wiring is fairly simple, but it's not always obvious. If all checks out, call the phone company.

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 13 years ago

It is wired up properly, I know how to do this stuff on an expert level, I have a lot of family that's into electrical/telecom work. The ethernet cable checked out fine before it was used to run to the modem, I have the ethernet cable tightened very tightly at the box, run down the wall, into the basement, then up a hole into my living room.

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Aeshir
Aeshir

13 years ago

You mean mb, not MB right?

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CameronSS
CameronSS

Reply 13 years ago

Isn't it Mbps? as in megabits per second? MBps would be megabytes per second, and mbps would be millibits per second. Meaning it would probably take a week to load the Instructables home page.