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Connect timer w Rechargeable 9v to Solar panel? Answered

I am using a rechargeable 9v battery in my irrigation timers.  I would think it would be easy to hook up a small solar panel to charge the batteries during the day and then I don't have to worry about them failing and me not noticing until my garden goes brown.  Two wires join in a pastic coated cap that hooks to the 9volts.  Can't I just take the cap apart and connect the leads from the little solar panel?

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solartimer
solartimer

6 years ago

https://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/FR9/IA91/HHS9E27R/FR9IA91HHS9E27R.THUMB.jpg

Hopefully I uploaded this right and you can see it. Rough, but the best I can do. On which side do I put the diode/resistor?

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solartimer
solartimer

Answer 6 years ago

Got it. Must have at least 9v to charge the battery. That's easy to get.

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iceng
iceng

Answer 6 years ago

The solar array needs to exceed the 9v battery  and the 14¢ diode in order to charge the battery.

At night the battery cannot discharge through the solar cells because of the one way diode.

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steveastrouk
steveastrouk

6 years ago

How long does a battery last anyway? That let'syoujudge the panel youneed. I'll guessthat a solar nightlight will be enough.

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solartimer
solartimer

Answer 6 years ago

The battery usually lasts close to a year. I'm looking for suggestions on how to wire it, rather than panel size. If anyone has an idea on that, it would be great. Thanks.

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steveastrouk
steveastrouk

Answer 6 years ago

Enough of the tiny cells from solar lights to get a very small current into your battery, add cells until it works. Add a blocking diode, so it doesn't go flat at night

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solartimer
solartimer

Answer 6 years ago

I have a 5v solar panel I planned to use. I'll gladly add a diode if someone can tell me how to wire it up. Thanks.

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steveastrouk
steveastrouk

Answer 6 years ago

5V can't charge a 9V battery ! You need enough to drive a current of around 2mA into the battery, via a resistor

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solartimer
solartimer

Answer 6 years ago

Even as a trickle charger? The battery only is used to open the timer valve every couple of days.

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steveastrouk
steveastrouk

Answer 6 years ago

Can't make the current flow INTO the battery unless the voltage of the panel is higher than the battery !

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iceng
iceng

6 years ago

At night that solar cell becomes a resistor and drains the battery.

That is why you must place a one way schottky ( low forward drop ) diode
in series as the pic shows.

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solartimer
solartimer

Answer 6 years ago

Thank you! Ok, so I just add the timer wires to the nodes for it to be an inline trickle charger?

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iceng
iceng

Answer 6 years ago

Use your rechargeable 9V battery as you normally would.
The solar array and 14¢ diode will as the sun dictates add energy to your system.

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iceng
iceng

Answer 6 years ago

BTW this outperforms the  schottky diode.

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mpilchfamily
mpilchfamily

6 years ago

Depends on what kind of rechargeable battery you have.

The solar panel will only trickle charge the battery during the day. Chances are the solar panel won't be able to keep up with the power the timer is using throughout the day. But at the very least it will extend how long the battery is usable before it has to be replaced.

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solartimer
solartimer

Answer 6 years ago

It's your standard 9v rechargeable battery. The timer is for the irrigation system. It only needs to turn the valve on and then off once each every couple/three days, so power use is minimal.

Any idea how to wire it? I can take the cap apart with the 2 wires apart and wrap the solar panel wires around the battery nodes, or I can wrap all the wires together, red to red, black to black.

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Josehf Murchison
Josehf Murchison

6 years ago

9 volts how many watt hours is the battery and how many watts is the solar cell.

Example 9 volt battery 5 watt hours will need a 1 watt solar cell to charge for ten hours to fully charge.

If it is using the battery while charging 1.5 watt solar cell.

A charger circuit is best to ensure the battery wont overcharge.