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Design criteria for Ibles.... Answered

I just noticed that we have now standards that need to be followed if you want to publish an Instructable.
Standards are good but not so much if the editing options for an Ible are at a standard from the year 2000.

If I had fun designing something as simple as whistle that shall be created in a 3D printer: Then why would I need images showing how I designed it?
Or why would I need images for the print settings or idea behind it?

A community goes both ways!
The editing tools are still sub standard and the images handling is a bad joke.
If I need to explain something complex with the aid of images then of course I want the images in the right spot with the text - ever thought about this or visited website that offer similar after the year 2000?
Usability is not just a means to provide the same look on all browsers and devices or to be able to use the most basic way to convert a website into a PDF.
Usability is also for those who create it but that part seems to be lost for years now no matter how many times people ask, suggest or comment on the problem.

I have no problem making my creations available elsewhere if that is the only way out here.
If you want people to create proper Instructables then for crying out loud give them the means to do so!
And fix the damn category selection bogus when posting in the community section.
Has no use for years but why bother to fix it....
Before you guys force people doing things your way only you should consider in what times we are and how proper usability would benefit this site....

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HAILITYliquidhandwash

Reply 5 weeks ago

If I had fun designing something as simple as whistle that shall be created in a 3D printer: Then why would I need images showing how I designed it?

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Kiteman

2 months ago

Huh?

Where are these "standards"? I haven't seen them...?

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Downunder35mKiteman

Reply 2 months ago

They are not posted...
But I can forward the PM I got that informed me how an Instructable shall be created and what needs to be included to reach the standards ;)
Fair enough it turned out to be a case of too much work and not enough sleep and was corrected but still...
I was quite stunned to get a note letting me know I need to include pictures of the making to be published.

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KitemanDownunder35m

Reply 2 months ago

I got the email alert for your PM, but this redirecting bug is stopping me looking at my actual inbox.

Those standards are *old*, and very basic - three steps plus pictures has been the minimum for... years.

You asked "why would I need images showing how I designed it?"

My personal answer would be "because that's interesting". I love to see the "creative journey" people take. If there are pencil sketches before the digital design, I like to see those, and see how the final product differs from the original thoughts.

Other folk might like to see whether your approach was worth adopting, or adapting.

Putting my teacher or contest judge hat on, I'd like to see evidence that the idea is *yours*, and the best evidence for that is to see the design process.

That's not an official answer, just mine, but I hope it makes sense.

Regarding the editing and formatting issues, I totally agree.

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Downunder35mKiteman

Reply 2 months ago

I agree with you that a nice flow of how something meiningful was created is nice.
Let's say I create a totally new extruder system for my printer.
Then of course I would include some pics highlighting the improvements and why I changed some things.
Same for a video in action.
I was just a bit stunned to know this would be a "requirement" for something as simple as a whistle LOL
Already got requests to show how my quiting templates are used.
Will be hard as these old ladies usually work in costumes and I am about 100km away from their workplace.
But will ask someone to take them for me.
Here I really don't mind more pics, especially not if requested so nicely.
Makes sense that people want to see something in action.
But honestly: You wouldn't want to see a pic or even video of me showing how to blow a whistle ROFL

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KitemanDownunder35m

Reply 2 months ago

Like I said, this is just my opinion, but I might want to hear how it sounds, and that it really works.

There are at least four videos of me blowing different noise-makers, but there are at least two "whistles" I have made from good-looking online instructions that didn't actually work

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Downunder35mKiteman

Reply 2 months ago

Download my whistle and be surprised that it actually makes sound ;)

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iceng

2 months ago

Sad, so sad.
Are they trying to let hand phones publishing the future toy marshmallow ibles :-/

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chrisgimson

2 months ago

I totally agree with your comments. The formatting commands are basic and even cut and past is a challenge as it throws away all existing formatting including line feeds. The lack of pick and place of images in the text severely compromise the readability of any resulting document. Yes, this aspect of the site is very disappointing and the main reason why I only have only produced 3 instructables in 3+ years whilst building dozens of projects that would suit a place on the website. One simple point for the management team - make it easy or at least "uptodate" and you will get more