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Ghosts in the machine? Answered

If anyone here has seen Irobot ( which you must have to be on instructables ) are familliar with the line "ghosts in the machine" which basically means there are always thigns/ functions we cannot explain. What do you think about this, how long until we make machines that truly "think for themselves, and can strategize to overthrow us. Recently in a podcast i listened to, the host talked about a robot that was created, and could "think" for itself. It has already though up and tested it's own theories. ( a bit scary ) Basically the point of metioning this, is to help people realize we have already taken the first step. Now the question is, how long until we outdo ourselves, end up in virtual worlds and the earth is one giant farm that the robots use to farm us for power?

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Lithium Rain

10 years ago

I love that movie! It was the first thing I thought of when I saw this topic.

However, I think those podcasters of which you speak went a wee bit overboard. No robot yet made can think. They and the programs that run them can surprise us, give us exciting output, even partially reprogram themselves, but they cannot think. We are unable to even approach that. There is yet much we do not understand about the way our own cognition processes function, so since we can't even describe it we're hardly in a position to replicate or invent a new way of thinking. Computers do as we tell them, with no choice, and when they do not it is without exception because they are unable due to hardware failure (hard drive goes kaput), software failure (Operating system crashes), or user failure (command typos result in unrecognized command). Once my computer tells me it doesn't feel like opening instructables.com, then we'll see if it's thinking. ;)

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XOIIOLithium Rain

Reply 10 years ago

True, but you have to admit, it's pretty inpressive ( or scary ) that the robot can test it's own theories. It makes you think of the posibilities...

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Lithium RainXOIIO

Reply 10 years ago

It's impressive engineering, but I don't see possibilities for sentient, thinking, self-aware computers.

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NachoMahmaLithium Rain

Reply 10 years ago

. Since we don't yet have a good handle on just what sentience, thought, self-awareness, &c are, I would be leery of saying it is impossible.
. Being as the brain is a finite structure, we should be able to replicate it ... eventually. Maybe there is something "special" about humans and our brains, but I doubt it.
. Will a computer ever "think" like a human? I dunno; too early to tell. I'm guessing we'll get close enough that you can't tell (see Turing test).

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gmjhowe

10 years ago

I think that although our computers are not self aware. There are ghosts, because the computer is so complex, things just go wrong by themselves. Some computers almost gain a personality.

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wolf555hound

10 years ago

nice Matrix attacker thingy ma jig