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Hidden camera and listening devices Answered

Could someone please let me know if I’m looking on the wrong spots or if someone knows of a way of building or buying a good device for finding hidden cameras and or listening devices also please.

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Jjpseismic

7 months ago

Thank you for the input and making me smile. Never thought about the paintball as I always go to the extreme and think about the shotgun right away:)...Of course living in Canada they frown about any type of guns so far:)

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Downunder35m

7 months ago

So called "security" or "spy" shops online offer what you need from cheap to proffessional.
I know corresponding apps also exist at least for Android.
Like those where you place a filter foil over your cam to search for IR light sources or those RF detectors that show you if there is transmitting devices close by.

To know what sort of detector you need you first need to know how important you are.
A CEO of a big company certainly will have to deal with better listening devices than some babysitter on a 4 hour assignment.
This means one will encounter frequencies totally outside normal bands while the other only needs to worry about the common and free frequencies like WiFi, UHF and so on.
Similar story for the cam itself.
Only spy toys make use of IR lights, pro devices won't use it to AVOID detection and instead use very light sensitive lenses and chips.
Then there is the problem of recording and transmission delays.
To avoid detection many devices only transmit once the motion stopped for long enough or not at all - like thise babysitter monitor teddies.
There are detectors that are able to find even a cam that is only recording and has no transmitter at all, just by detecting the very weak EMF produced by the electronics.
Apart from being very costly those only work in a clean enviroment, having several cell phones, computers, lights and such working makes their use next to impossible.


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JjpseismicDownunder35m

Reply 7 months ago

Well as much as my mother tells me I’m very important I don’t believe in the public eye I would be that important. I appreciate your feedback and I guess I’m looking for mostly hobby use. Haven’t really given it that much thought until my neighbor started putting up security cameras and then seeing either police or security surveillance in our Neighborhood. I began asking myself questions and started getting a little concerned on all the conversations that could be heard and possible cameras taking pictures without my convent or knowledge. I went into the spy store to chat with the fellow and basically got no satisfaction from him and the more I look into things the more I want to know for my own research really. I have done the shining flashlights to see cameras and tried a few different apps that I wasn’t really happy with either. The technology is out there as you say. I guess it’s how much do you eat to spend

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Downunder35mJjpseismic

Reply 7 months ago

Cameras can only be "detected" on a hobby level once the IR is activated.
Best IMHO is a cheap nightvision monocular.
With those and in the dark you can nicely see "illuminated" areas from the camera as well as the camera lights itself (even if claimed to be invisible).

Viewing angles can't really be detected so you would have to go with common sense and location.
For example a cam on the corner of the house watching over the entrance will have a focus on that areabut not wide angle.
A cam in front of the house to watch the footpath might be a wide angle one though.
Try to imagine what the person would preferable see as clear as possible from that cam location.
A cam in the back corner of the house aimed towards the front but with another house close by makes most sense with a narrow field of view and a certain amount of zoom.
Unless people really spend big money the cams will be without audio.

Consent is funny thing these days.
In most areas a house owner does not need consent from a neighbour when putting up cameras.
Just not part of the council or city bylaws.
You can fight it in a civil court on the base of the possibility that your neighbour records you.
Unless your little kids love to play naked in the backyard you won't have much chances though.
"Reasonable" is the term used.
Like it is reasonable to assume the neighbour records on a loop and only keeps recordings of incidents.
Or that it is reasonable that your neighbour is not watching the security footage 24/7 just to collect recordings of you.
But it is also reasonable to expect the neighbour is doing the right thing and won't abuse his security system to cause trouble for other people.
As long as all is "reasonable" there is little to no point in making a fuzz about cameras anymore.

"Protection" against spying cameras....
In some cases a person might want to limit the use of a neighbours cam.
For example if one of them would have a more or less clear view into your bedroom.
Apart from covering up there are only two things that I consider plausible to work.
a) Using some IR lights aimed at the camera.
You can get "IR flood light" or additional IR LED rings for cameras quite cheap on Fleabuy.
Even during daylight they work fine if the camera does nout use a strong IR filter.
At light it is literally like someone is hollding a flashlight to your face - you are blind, or better the cam is.
b) Direct attack with a small laser pointer - be aware of the illegal sides here!
If nothing else helps then a laser aimed directly at the lens will certainly overpower the chip and prevent any clear images.
The legal laserpointers with a power of around 0.5mW in red do just fine here, same for the green ones.
Downside, apart from the legal stuff, is that most toy lasers are not rated for continous use.
And wasting a few hundred bucks just to blind a camera is not for everyone.
Get caught and the law will be quite strict these days.
If you are really got then of course some paintball gun would do fine too ;)

If you are really concerned about the legal and privacy issues then check state, county/council laws in regards to authorisations and restrictions.
But as said, sometimes "protection" is valued higher for properties than for people...

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JjpseismicDownunder35m

Reply 7 months ago

Thank you for the input and making me smile. Never thought about the paintball as I always go to the extreme and think about the shotgun right away:)...Of course living in Canada they frown about any type of guns so far:)