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How can I stop tyre theft ? Answered

One of my hobbies is looking after a special ex-army landrover called a 101 - thats one to my left in my "avatar". Some miserable low life has just stolen ALL my wheels off it. Now, the tyres are pretty heavy - you wouldn't want to lift one off the ground for long - and 34" in diameter, but still they have all gone.

They are/were held on wih big nuts too ! Too big for off the shelf locking nuts

Has anyone any bright ideas as to what I can do to fabricate a lockable nut ?

EDIT

Panic over, thanks for all your help. I can buy lockable nuts from stock <embarassment>

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lemonie

Best Answer 10 years ago

Can you mark the rims subtly with e.g. your postcode? When you see other vehicles (at events / meets) it wouldn't be out of place to stick you head under the wheel arches "out of technical interest", and you could post to other 101 enthusiasts - "seen my wheels? - they're tagged there"

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Chowmix12

9 years ago

My Lexus has a specially shaped nut for each tyre, and they supply you with a special wrench specifically made for your nut. You might be able to search and with some luck find something similar online. Here's a picture of how it looks, so you know what to look for! As you can see in the left most nut, there is a special engraving that matches the specific wrench.

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steveastroukChowmix12

Answer 9 years ago

That's just what I need for mine, only the wheel nuts are about 4 times bigger !

Thanks !
One good turn deserves another ;-)

STeve

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sharlston

10 years ago

how about specialy shaped nuts like security ones?

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Xellers

10 years ago

I haven't seen "tires" spelled "tyres" is quite a while... Is that still the official spelling in the UK?

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bassbindevil

10 years ago

Instead of (or as well as) engraving, hide RFID tags on the rims somewhere, maybe epoxied in place and painted over. I don't know what the range on those things is, but this would give a very positive way to identify your rims if you suspected their presence.

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kelseymh

10 years ago

Dude. That sucks.

What about using a "locking wire retainer" with a security cable through the wire holes?

For a do-it-yourself job, I think you need the bolts to be longer than the lug nuts, so that the threads extend out beyond the lug nut by at least 3-6 mm. Use a Dremel with 1/16" high-speed-steel drill bit to put a hole through the end of one or all bolts, and thread security cable through that.

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lemoniekelseymh

Answer 10 years ago

Drilling wheel-nuts with a Dremel?! Considering that someone got in and out with heavy wheels, and took the bolts off - how hard is it to remove a security cable (I don't know)? L

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steveastrouklemonie

Answer 10 years ago

This is my thought too. These guys must have really come equipped, and with BIG wrenches to shift these -28 mm nuts. They were put on with a 3 foot breaker bar ! Thinking about this after I posted the question I was wondering about a special nut like a castle shaped thing, and a custom spanner ? Preferably with an odd pattern of castellations too.... Looking at over 1000 USD to replace these really rare rims. The tyres are trivial, the rims are really hard to get !

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kelseymhsteveastrouk

Answer 10 years ago

Good Lord. That's a hell of a job :-( And it does sound like Lemonie's thought of a to-order job is plausible.

Anyway, I did a Google search for "Land Rover 101 locking nuts". Came up with http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/11251/4089/2/RTC9535-LOCKING-WHEEL-NUT-SET-OF-5.html . Those items are listed under "Accessories -> Other" for the 101, so they may be exactly what you need. At 30 quid per wheel, it's about 10% the cost of the rims. Good luck!

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kelseymhsteveastrouk

Answer 10 years ago

Yeah, I'm sure that Sting has more important issues to deal with....

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Grathiokelseymh

Answer 10 years ago

A friend bought a locking nut for the spare on his FJ Cruiser, and hasn't has it stolen again. You only need one per wheel.

His was stolen twice. I think just about everyone in San Francisco without locking nuts on their spare FJ tire has them lifted.

Then again these guys apparently really wanted your tires. I worry that if you make it too hard for them they'll do something next time to damage your hubs.

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lemoniesteveastrouk

Answer 10 years ago

I think this: not going to sell them in a pub car-park, not going to sell on a car-boot, you're only real market is people like yourself (who is obviously in need of some right now). Export or "to order-job"? If you physically etch the rims, you have a situation in which you can say "my wheels got nicked they're marked-" to the 101 community. If someone looks at their recent EBay purchase and says "oops these are they" they might reasonably think: "this dude sold me nicked-stuff, they know I've got a 101 and where I live.... Would they not call the cops over the vendor, or would they hope that they'd not suffer a similar theft and get away with it as an accomplice? L

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steveastrouklemonie

Answer 10 years ago

My thoughts exactly. I have a suspicion about a recent visitor that I think I can trace.

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frollardsteveastrouk

Answer 10 years ago

Trouble with if you buy stolen property, and they don't recover the money you paid for the property, then you become the loser - as the property goes back to the owner after it's used as evidence. They transfer the crime from a theft to a fraud. This means that most people don't report they bought stolen property even if they find out afterward.

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kelseymhlemonie

Answer 10 years ago

No idea. Depends on the cable. There are some where the actual exposure of cable is small to zero -- the cable threads through a hardened steel casing with a lock. It really depends on how secure it needs to be, and how much Steve wants to spend on it.

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steveastroukkelseymh

Answer 10 years ago

LIke I said to Lemonie, it needs to protect over 1000 USD worth of tyres !!!