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I shot myself with a bb gun......HELP! Answered

I accidently shot myslef in the hand with a bb gun. I now have a .177cal copper bb lodged a few centimeters in my palm, just under my middle finger. Its restricting any movement of that finger and hurts alot. Besides seeing a doctor, does anyone have any suggestions?

*24 hour update*
Hey dudes, thanks for all of your helpful suggestions. I would go to the ER but I'm deadly afraid of doctors, nurses, dentists, and the like. So, at about 4:45pm (pacific time) today, I attempted to extract the bb myself. first off, I took and hanful of cottonballs and stuffed them in my mouth to muffle the screaming. Then, I went at it with an ear-wax remover I picked up from the local chinese pharmacy.
...............................................OUCH!......................................
Unsuccesful.

*48 hour update*
At about 8:00am this morning, I succesfully extracted the bb with a small wire fashioned into a loop <=========. yeah, sort of like that. Needless to say, it hurt a bunch. It is now 11:30am same day, and my hand is already feeling better (duh). And (though still painful) I can move all of my fingers. The way I see it, I'll be totally healed in a few days. Hopefully.

*One Week Update*
Its been about one week from the day I shot my hand and I'm happy to report that I am now without pain and Infection-Free. Thanks everybody for all the helpful suggestions. Even though in the end I used my own way of dealing with the problem.

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Andrew546
Andrew546

14 years ago

shouldn't it be a 48 hour update? Anyways, glad to hear your hand is now BB-free and you can move your fingers, even if you did accomplish this in the most ill-advised of ways. Be sure to keep it as clean as possible. You are at extreme risk for infection, and infections can be far more damaging than the initial wound itself.

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trebuchet03
trebuchet03

Reply 14 years ago

He really still needs to see a doctor.... If it was going to get infected... it's already happened and incubating.... Especially if it was in there for more than a day o.0 The doctor will probably just write a script for antibiotics. In any case... I hope the significant risk of loosing your fingers was worth "muffled screaming."

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Weissensteinburg
Weissensteinburg

Reply 14 years ago

antibiotics wouldn't be good...he just needs to keep it extremely clean by using some of that stingy stuff, keep it bandaged. How big is the wound? Big enough to benefit from stitches?

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LasVegas
LasVegas

Reply 14 years ago

I'd be pooring Hydrogen Peroxide into the wound... Being one of the hundreds of thousands of US Americans that earns too much to have government supplied healthcare, but not enough to be able to afford medical coverage, a doctor would be about the last thing I'd search out.

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morren
morren

Reply 14 years ago

Being in the US means that every doctor (at every -hospital-, ER or general admission) is required by *law* to treat you, even if you cannot pay.

Sure, you will get a bill that will last forever...

...but you'll be alive.

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LasVegas
LasVegas

Reply 14 years ago

Sorry... I don't believe in using anyone's services that I cannot afford, unless it's a mater of life and death. I assure you that if I had a heart attack, I would be treated up to the extent that I might die without a lot of pain. I would not be treated as someone that could afford a transplant or an incarcerated criminal.

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morren
morren

Reply 14 years ago

That's not the gumment's decision though. The bottom line is that it's *there*. So, please, don't go spouting about how you earn too much to have government supplied healthcare but not enough to afford coverage..

Because coverage is still *physically* there. I think what you may have meant to say was that you do not earn enough to afford the *level of* coverage *you* desire.

Which still, don't get me wrong, stinks. I've been there before, believe me. Dental plans anyone?

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LasVegas
LasVegas

Reply 14 years ago

It is the government's decision. This government is so proud that they've managed to institute National Heath Care in Iraq, but don't think it's important in their own country. Of course it's not important. The people in charge, don't need it!

I have No coverage. Like hundreds of thousands of other legal citizens of this country, there is no coverage physically there. No level of anything. If, for some reason I need emergency care and it is deemed indeed an emergency, I will get it. Of course, I will have to pay for it afterward at the expense of my home and lifestyle. Afterward, I will receive no follow up without cash up front.

This is a fact of life for hundreds of thousands in the USA. I've accepted it. If I ever did need some major surgery, I could commit a felony. Then and only then would I be assured the healthcare I would need.

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morren
morren

Reply 14 years ago

My fiancee is recieving care for breast cancer. There will be surgery in May, I think. (All depends on the last half of the treatment, etc.) I can't tell you how many financial support programs I have been advertised in the doctor's offices. And, for the record, we have visited the ER on more than once occasion. Also on that record, we have hit the "insurance" limit on things and the cancer center has helped us out, greatly. They haven't for us, but they will for some just cut a check! We have coverage through work, yes, but my point is this:

-ER coverage is still coverage.
-Financial Aid is there as well. No, not goverment financial aid, but support group aid, but aid from the cancer center itself coverage.
-*NOBODY* Will ever deny you coverage, especially if it has come through an ER. Don't be afraid of it, look into it. Ask someone behind the desk, and believe it or not, most will work with you. When I lacked actual coverage, I did this with a dentist. It was no where near emergency work, but work I wanted done (a crown) and he did it via payment over time... (And most are happy to bypass the insurance groups too)

What you are saying is what I used to say about college. I used to say that I made too much to get any sort of funding to help me along. It's only 10 years later that I realize if I looked harder I would have found something to help me along.

I don't mean to sound mean, especially with the "be nice" policy below the reply window here. I just want to say that coverage is there, sometimes you have to fight for it, but it is there.

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LasVegas
LasVegas

Reply 14 years ago

As to college.... (ah! don't get me started!!!) Ever wonder why it seems 7 out of 10 doctors are aliens in USA? It's because our gov't sponsors students to USA medical school from other countries. They don't sponsor Americans.

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morren
morren

Reply 14 years ago

I don't know much about how the government sponsors people from other countries; I do know, however, that people from other countries are more likely (at least what I've seen) to work for less money and our country *prides* itself on paying its employees as little as possible. So it's a win win, I suppose. :P

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LasVegas
LasVegas

Reply 14 years ago

Sorry... That's just baloney. That's like saying Illegal aliens are only taking jobs that real americans wouldn't take. Not true, just an excuse for doing nothing about it.

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morren
morren

Reply 14 years ago

Oh no no, I don't see it as what happens across the board. I have actually heard, however, people say "I'll never work at a crappy job like McDonalds" and in the same breath say "I'm too poor, I wish I could find a job."

Then there are the people that don't *care* about what a job is, or where it is, just that it makes money when they are in dire need for it. In my opinion, I've found that more of the people who complain about never ever going "so low" as to work at a "crappy job" like that (imho, I don't think it is) -- have been native-born Americans as compared to aliens.

Now, that said:

The firm I am employed with has hired a Chinese immigrant to work on some highly technical motion control projects. This man, who is very smart, has been in the US for years now; doctorate from a midwest school of engineering and yada yada... kinda proves your point out though, doesn't it? :P

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LasVegas
LasVegas

Reply 14 years ago

So, if I get cancer, I'm okay... If I have a heart attack, I'm screwed. Trust me, I know. My neighbor has to move because of his two heart attacks. Until he has nothing left, there is no additional aid.

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morren
morren

Reply 14 years ago

Maybe so, maybe he's broke for the rest of his life, but he's alive. Which, even while homeless, one could argue is better than being dead.

I tend to get pissy when people jump right into saying "there is no funding around because of Iraq, omg Iraq!!1!" When it is just not true.

Because even if you have 0 funding and I have some funding the *average* funding is still greater than zero. ;)

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LasVegas
LasVegas

Reply 14 years ago

If you think being alive and homeless is better than dead, then you've never been homeless. There are a few that choose to be homeless, but not most. My friend isn't homeless yet, but I doubt he will get proper treatment if he has another heart attack. He now falls into the category of disposable Americans. I never said that about Iraq... I would probably be one of the last to say that of my crowd. I tend to be more on the right side. My statement about Iraq was to demonstrate how our gov't, run by the wealthy (liberals too), make such a big deal of getting National Health going in Iraq, but so many Americans are dying each year because of lack of sufficient health care.

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morren
morren

Reply 14 years ago

No no, you are right. you didn't say that about Iraq. I just find it very "red herring"-ish to talk about Iraq when speaking about our own healthcare. That could be for other reasons, however; like my general "label anyone complaining about Iraq an insta-crybaby". That's not a good thing on my part. :P

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trebuchet03
trebuchet03

Reply 14 years ago

You're pretty much right... They treat you to sustain life... nothing more. But also remember who decides if you can pay.... I'll give you a hint, it's not you ;)

I know personally a family that couldn't afford to pay... but still got hit with the bill.... Well, they declared bankruptcy and their house was foreclosed on :/ Just shows how close on the edge so many people live :(

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morren
morren

Reply 14 years ago

Sad, indeed. But they are alive! You never see a U-Haul truck in a funeral procession; it's not coming with you when you die.

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sunwukong15
sunwukong15

Reply 14 years ago

Its actually a slit about 7 millimeters wide.

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royalestel
royalestel

14 years ago

Look, deadly afraid of doctors or not, you HAVE to get this checked out. A small wound on your hand with the wrong kind of bacteria in it can cause you to lose your ARM if not taken care of soon enough. Get someone you really trust to make you go. Don't give yourself a long term illness because you're afraid. We're all afraid of different things. Feel the fear and do it anyway. You are strong enough to walk in there and do this, you just need a friend along with you.

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dogsrcool2me
dogsrcool2me

14 years ago

I assume the reason you are not posting any more is you are ether dead or in the hospital.

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photozz
photozz

14 years ago

Can I have you tools after the rampant infection does you in?

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Trans_Am
Trans_Am

14 years ago

Well, now that you got it out, i'd say put copious amount of polysporin on it.

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Weissensteinburg
Weissensteinburg

14 years ago

I guess you are a true instructable-ist...always keeping the DIY mentality :P

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Trans_Am
Trans_Am

14 years ago

GO TO ER YOU IDIOT! WHY TO YOU THINK THEY CALL IT ER? EMERGENCY! Which is what I'd say you just had. And Gangrene is defenitley uncool.
"Look everybody, my f-finger is twelve different colours!"
Look up "gangrene" on wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/gangrene There, I did it for you. It ain't pretty.

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Aeshir
Aeshir

Reply 14 years ago

BLGH I think I'm gonna puke 8P

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Andrew546
Andrew546

14 years ago

I see a great instructable coming out of this. "How to extract BBs from your hand using a rusty spoon without letting your parents know."

Get to the ER, hands are important.

You don't want to be explaining for the rest of you life that your middle finger is permanently flipping the bird because you shot yourself with a BB gun and didn't bother going to the doctor.

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carbon
carbon

Reply 14 years ago

I myself envison "Extracting Metal Objects Embedded in your Flesh with an Electromagnet." Hmm...how much force do you think that would actually take?

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crestind
crestind

Reply 14 years ago

Well, enough force to rip it through your skin. Maybe 30lbs if it's small like a BB pellet?

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Weissensteinburg
Weissensteinburg

Reply 14 years ago

Probably less, because depending on how its going, the wound would still be open, probably exposing it. Although if it got between bones or something, it could be higher.

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sunwukong15
sunwukong15

Reply 14 years ago

This idea seems very interesting to me, but I wonder, Would an electro-magnet be able to pick up a COPPER bb?

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carbon
carbon

Reply 14 years ago

Not that I'm encouraging you, but it's been my expeience that "copper" bb's aren't copper all the way through.

I just checked, and my copper bb's are indeed attracted to the magnet.

In conclusion, because you obviously didn't get the message the first time, SEE A F***ING DOCTOR!!! YOU ARE IN OVER YOUR HEAD!! GET SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!! HANDS ARE IMPORTANT!!!

GANGRENE = NOT COOL

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carbon
carbon

Reply 14 years ago

Wiki says "A BB is a small ball usually made of steel with a copper or zinc coating. " Have you told your parents at all?

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Aeshir
Aeshir

Reply 14 years ago

At least it's not lead, like every other kind of ammo.

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carbon
carbon

Reply 14 years ago

Say if I ran my capacitor bank through a coil? What kind of force do you think that would put out? Actually, that's kind of a cool ide- oh wait, that's a coil gun :) Of course, doing that, you would run the risk of the bb flying out at great speed and embedding itself into another part of your body :P

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Andrew546
Andrew546

Reply 14 years ago

Looks like he prefers ear-wax removers. I hope your documenting this to make a kick-ass instructable on how to screw up your hand for life. *sigh*

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sunwukong15
sunwukong15

Reply 14 years ago

actually, my middle finger and ring finger are down and won't go up, sort of spiderman-ish.

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Andrew546
Andrew546

Reply 14 years ago

'cause thats totally better. Now you just look like a deformed freak. have fun explaining that to everyone. Get to the doctor, they know what they're doing. You need to get over your fear and just do it.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

14 years ago

Finger permanently flexed? That's tendon and/or nerve damage. The longer you leave it, the more it takes to fix it. My dad came off his bike, smacked his shoulder. The next-day fix would have taken half an hour at his GP. He left it three weeks and had to have full surgery, including six weeks off work because he couldn't drive.

GO TO THE DOCTOR!

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

14 years ago

What the fuck where you doing to shoot your self anywayS?

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sunwukong15
sunwukong15

Reply 14 years ago

I was just holding it (loaded, safety off). sensitive trigger. definitly NOT the smartest thing I've done.

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 14 years ago

Just be glad it wasn't a firearm

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Weissensteinburg
Weissensteinburg

14 years ago

Its been over 14 hours, so what did you do? Did you not respond because you're in the hospital? (lets hope so...not that you have to be there for long, just that you went)

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jtobako
jtobako

14 years ago

a few centimeters into your palm would put it...out the other side. couple of things. if it cut a tendon, you won't be using that finger for anything but insults for the rest of your life if you don't see a doctor NOW. (if the tendon shrinks or breaks, the doctor is going to have to search all the way down into your arm for it) if the BB lodged between the bones, same thing. all deep puncture wounds hurt from swelling, and that same swelling will keep your hand from closing.

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LasVegas
LasVegas

14 years ago

Be happy that you didn't shoot yer eye out this time! :)

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Tool Using Animal
Tool Using Animal

14 years ago

Lucky you, I have a BB resting against the brachial plexus in my right shoulder from when I was 13 and my "friend" wanted to see what it was like to shoot someone ( still hurts sometimes too). Don't go see a doctor, you have to go to the emergency room, a walk in clinic will just shoo you out. Yer gonna have to fill out a police report too. it's a hassle but much better than gangrene, so go NOW. Remember today you are a MAN so no crying when the ER Doc starts mashing your hand around.

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Weissensteinburg
Weissensteinburg

14 years ago

Wait...it went a few cm deep? Yeah, seek medical treatment.