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I think I'm being discriminated against because of my bicycle. What should I do? Answered

At our school, they let you drive your car around the parking lot at lunch. Well, I ride my bike. So I ride around just like all the cars do, not bothering anyone, and they keep telling me to park it or leave. They never do this to the cars. They already discriminate against skaters (roller skates, skateboard), and scooterists(is that a word?). They put up a sign that says No skateboarding, no rollerskating, or riding scooters on campus. Well, that worked fine, people rode the afformentioned vehicles up to the campus, stopped, and carry them through, until the school staff started to grab the vehicles directly from their arms (I rode a skateboard once on a Friday, my first skateboard, just got it the night before, I think. I had just learned to skate, was carrying it, they snatched it, and hurt my arm with the griptape. They wouldn't give it back, so I protested after school. They kicked me out of the buiding, and I never got it back until Monday). Now it seems they are starting with bikes. They even took my bike once and put it where everybody in the school could do whatever they wanted with it. If they don't allow bikes at school, then I will have to quit, because I have no other transportation. What should I do?

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anishi
anishi

9 years ago

i think the simplest and fastest way to convince is to get locale/district PTA equivalent involved. my reasoning? people on PTA's tend to love to fix (or should i say "fix") things. :)) [no offense was meant to PTA members{particularly my father}]

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extremegtafan
extremegtafan

12 years ago

Things just exploded and I risk getting suspended over sitting on my bike. I am writing a speech now to defend myself.

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bumpus
bumpus

Reply 12 years ago

:( Why?

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extremegtafan
extremegtafan

Reply 12 years ago

Sorry. Forgot to post back. I wrote my letter type thing, gave it to the assistant principal, and now I'm not in trouble.

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bumpus
bumpus

Reply 12 years ago

Thats good.

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killerjackalope
killerjackalope

12 years ago

I used to have issues with my bike at school, no actual lockup area and a bunch of tossers where you could get them to the fence... I never did get bike racks, I also got told off for no dismounting at the gate without knowing that it was a rule... (no signs) I displace the band of tossers easily by way of smoking - seems weird but it was just about doable to get away with, a couple of days, the staff then watched that spot carefully and that eliminated the vandalism issue. I still get some abuse for riding a bike, it doesn't phase me since it's my primary means of transport and I beat the buses home from tech consistently, not only that but look out for fellow bike riders, groups of bicycles parked up are safer as it makes vandals more obvious, plus it lowers your own personal risk as there are other targets, it's a sad way to think but if there's easier gain nearby your bike is much less likely to be attacked. Also quick releases, add one to the seat and take it off the bike, it leaves little to be attacked if you take it off and chuck it in your bag, or in my case carry it, you get weird looks and one person did try stealing it from my hand, sadly for him they make a great club.

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yourcat
yourcat

Reply 12 years ago

stealing it from your hand?!? people are crazy...

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extremegtafan
extremegtafan

12 years ago

Don't say walk, I live a mile or so from the school.

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westfw
westfw

Reply 12 years ago

A mile is not very far (though I admit that it's a more comfortable biking distance than walking distance.)

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LinuxH4x0r
LinuxH4x0r

Reply 12 years ago

I live about 2-2.5 miles. Takes me 35 minutes to walk. Get over it

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bumpus
bumpus

Reply 12 years ago

In my day, we walked 15 miles to school through the snow and rain! :D

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LinuxH4x0r
LinuxH4x0r

Reply 12 years ago

Ooh, don't forget we didn't have shoes and the only trails were over sharp jagged rocks that cut our feet. Not that we had any after getting them cut off for slacking at work. :P

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n8man
n8man

Reply 12 years ago

And it was uphill both ways

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LinuxH4x0r
LinuxH4x0r

Reply 12 years ago

oh yeah, I forgot about the cliff. So hard with no ropes. It was ok though because only the smartest students could find their way to the top without getting attacked by the snakes or falling off.

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n8man
n8man

Reply 12 years ago

Oh yes... and the land mines, don't forget the land mines

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LinuxH4x0r
LinuxH4x0r

Reply 12 years ago

We couldn't afford those. We used tiger pits instead (with live tigers inside)

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n8man
n8man

Reply 12 years ago

Lucky, at least you could see where they were

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LinuxH4x0r
LinuxH4x0r

Reply 12 years ago

actually tiger pits are hidden

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n8man
n8man

Reply 12 years ago

Are there multiple indivisual tiger pits or an underground maze of them with no way out?

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extremegtafan
extremegtafan

Reply 12 years ago

I think you guys are getting carried away here...

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yourcat
yourcat

Reply 12 years ago

LOL anyway!

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skunkbait
skunkbait

Reply 12 years ago

And pit-bulls with AIDS!

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LinuxH4x0r
LinuxH4x0r

Reply 12 years ago

And it was easier to transmit back then! *aids cough*

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threecheersfornick
threecheersfornick

Reply 12 years ago

Amazingly, my dad does have to bike up hill both ways to work.

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LinuxH4x0r
LinuxH4x0r

Reply 12 years ago

Is there a big hill that he has to go up both sides of?

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westfw
westfw

Reply 12 years ago

Actually, one of the interesting things I've noticed is that my kids, who are all three biking to school regularly (0.8, 1.5, and 3 miles) are riding their bikes quite a bit further to school than I ever did (irregularly, about 1 mile.) Of course, it's flatter here, and the weather is more consistent, and I was a wimp, but ... I'm still rather impressed.

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extremegtafan
extremegtafan

Reply 12 years ago

I'm a slow walker. I'd have to leave at about 7:20. School starts at 8.

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Lithium Rain
Lithium Rain

Reply 12 years ago

*shrug*

You'd get faster over time. You'll survive.

Sounds harsh, but it's really not meant that way. It's just the attitude I try to take in an irksome situation-I'll survive, I'll make it. I'll keep going somehow. There are always alternatives. What doesn't kill me makes me stronger. Yatta, yatta, yatta.

</preaching>

At least they can't keep you from walking by confiscating you legs. Not legally, that is...

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extremegtafan
extremegtafan

Reply 12 years ago

Well, the school has water leaks in every room, they put trash cans under them, the lights have water inside of them, there's lots of mold, outlets are falling off the walls(school was built before electricity, oulets are attached to the concrete walls). So I don't think cutting off my legs would be too hard for them to get away with. Oh, and we have the most deadly form of staph scattered through the school. Nice place!

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skunkbait
skunkbait

Reply 12 years ago

Is a car/motorcycle in your near future?

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Doctor What
Doctor What

12 years ago

So they prefer more destructive methods of transportation? They like pollutant cars and motorcycles, but they don't like pollution free bikes, skateboards, or scooters? BTW, putting your bike intentionally where it will be tagged or screwed with isn't punishment. It's vandalism. Or, at least it seems like it. Your school seems to have a control problem. ~~~Punch them in the face.~~~ You need to explain to them that taking classic and free modes of transport is good, and it doesn't hurt the school in any way shape or form. If they don't listen, go higher. We're talking superintendent status. Hooray for protesting, you're on a good start.

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nibbler125
nibbler125

12 years ago

it was the same way when I was in middle school. beacuse all the teachers hated skaters if you had a skateboard then they automaticly think you were a bad person. I know I got my skateboard taken away before. I guess they dont like it when you ride in the hallways. :) but id suggest that you go to the princable and demand that you beable to ride and act like you are very smart too like you know the law

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CameronSS
CameronSS

12 years ago

It seems to me that the underlying problem here is that your school's administrators are fascists... If I were you, I would take this to the higher-ups, and determine why exactly they are not allowing the most energy-efficient form of transportation in existence at school. Find a teacher that you like (and that likes you) and enlist their help, they will better know who to contact.

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Weissensteinburg
Weissensteinburg

12 years ago

I'm a bit confused about your problem, but i'll try my best. What I understand is that you don't have a place to lock your bike up once you get to school. I'm going to assume that you're in high school, and go to a public one. If this is the case, your parents matter a lot more than you do. have your parents call or write a letter (not an email) to the principal about it, and get others to have their parents write as well. To be honest, they probably couldn't care less about you and your signatures if they refuse to do something when you ask.

The first step is for you to personally go to the principal or write her a letter about the problem, and suggest solutions. If this doesn't work, you should draw attention to the cause. Tell other people, and in turn their parents. Ask the school newspaper to write a story, and if your local newspaper has a grievances and compliments sections, write them a letter. You can do this simultaneously while your parents write letters.

The goal is that if they're not willing to work with you, you should pressure them into it. For instance, when our school enacted a stricter dress code for football games, we didn't cheer at all until the principal caved and withdrew it. If enough people know that they aren't willing to help you, they'll try and save their good name.

Lastly, check out this instructable.

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westfw
westfw

12 years ago

  • I have to stay on top of my bike at lunch
That is very likely to be perceived as a problem by TPTB. "Clearly" you can't carry your bike around school all day because you're afraid it will be stolen or vandalized. The "at lunch" comment has me puzzled, though. Do vandals and thieves at your school only do their dirty work at lunch time? In my experience, normal school schedules don't mean much to such folk. Perhaps you are being "teased", as in "it's no fun to mess with his bike unless he's watching and gets all upset!"

  • there's not even a place for us to park
Really? Well, that's your "in" to getting things changed. Our local school districts are all about "alternative transportation" recently. Gently point out that if you had a safe place to park your bike, you would be a lot less of a "problem." Point out the advantages of bike transportation - less childhood obesity through exercise, less energy waste, less traffic... Get other potential bikers to sign a petition. Look for support from the community - surely there are lots of adult drivers that would be happier to have kids on bikes than in cars? (our local school districts do not have "school buses"; every morning and every afternoon there are traffic jams...) As school improvements go, a bike rack is relatively inexpensive.
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westfw
westfw

12 years ago

So which is it? Are the complaining about recreational riding in the parking lot or on campus at lunch/etc, or riding your bike as transportation to and from school? Which were you doing when you got the bike confiscated last time? The former seems reasonable to me; letting teens in cars drive around and bike around in the same "space" seems like asking for trouble, and it's their parking lot (I'm surprised they let the cars drive around.) (unlike the roads, parking lots are subject to the owner's rules...) Restricting bikes as transportation doesn't seem reasonable. Or very likely. Perhaps they are discriminating against your bike riding because they don't like YOU ? (that's supposed to be a joke...)

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extremegtafan
extremegtafan

Reply 12 years ago

To tell you the truth, when it was confiscated, I was riding away from vandalizers who were trying to destroy it. They were never punished. And I'm thinking that them not letting me ride during lunch will lead up to not letting anyone ride at all.

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westfw
westfw

Reply 12 years ago

I would expect people (including yourself) to continue to be able to ride your bike along streets directly to designated bike parking areas. After all, they can't legally do anything about your riding (within the law) up to the edge of school grounds. Riding "recklessly" across campus, in non-bike-safe areas (which I'm sure is how TPTB viewed things, regardless of how you view things), to avoid vandals (or otherwise) is only likely to get stricter restrictions on bikes "in general." I'm pretty sure all of our schools have a "no bikes, skates, scooters, or skateboards" policy for all the pavement other than areas specifically designed for bike parking and access there-to. It seems to be somewhat ignored by both bikers/etc and TPTB when it doesn't matter (mostly empty), and mostly obeyed by both when it does matter (school in session, crowded activities.) That's as it should be, IMO. Does your school have a written policy on the issues? Most do, these days, so that they have paper to back them up on disciplinary actions. You and TPTB seem to have a disagreement on what the rules ought to be, and your treatment is unlikely to get better until you reach an understanding. Is it that impossible to discuss? Is there a local bike organization that can support you (or the school, for that matter), as a sort of disinterested arbiter?

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extremegtafan
extremegtafan

Reply 12 years ago

There are no specifically made bike lanes, there's not even a place for us to park, and so I have to stay on top of my bike at lunch if I want to keep it.

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 12 years ago

. Yep. Allowing cars and bikes in the same space is a VERY bad idea and would leave the school liable if someone were hurt. . You say it jokingly, but I'd be willing to bet that the problem is not with bicycles/skateboards/&c, but a conflict between admin and the poster. . I'd also bet that we are not getting the complete story here. Would be interesting to hear another POV.

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gmjhowe
gmjhowe

12 years ago

Make a stand, don't back down until your heard, at the end of the day, the school has to educate you, they cant refuse that (unless your misbehaving). As long as you make your point without looking like you have an attitude problem, it should be fine - get others on board, more numbers = more power.