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Is my ibook like..Dead? Answered

Well, apon leaving my ibook on for the past year or two almost non stop, I've come to the conclusion that perhaps the hard drive is a little deadish. Apps open really slow, and sometimes they lock up, VLC player can lock my mac up pretty easy depending on what I'm playing. Oh yeah, and for some reason java apps really bloats my mac down, does anyone find that? Like limewire or similar apps, it jacks my cpu's temp through through the roof. Now my itunes and it's 20 gig music collection won't open, well it does, but the spinning beachball thing appears, and shortly thereafter locks up finder and pretty much any other application I have open, even dock is hard to race to, to force quit it. Would it be worth it to go out and buy a 7200rpm drive instead of a regular 5400rpm laptop hd? I'm guessing I might actually get quite a performance boost, but I'm unsure if it's worth $120. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

12 years ago

. I'd double-check the cooling system before investing in a new drive. In my experience, HDDs don't fail gradually - they usually fail within a few days of showing symptoms. Check all heat sinks/pipes, fans, ducts, &c. May be a good time to reapply heat sink compound to the CPU. . You may have a data corruption problem. Reformat. A low-level format may be required. . An HDD with a faster spindle speed probably won't give you much of a speed boost. It'll help, but not $120 worth. A bigger buffer seems to make more difference.

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 12 years ago

.I'd double-check the cooling system before investing in a new drive. In my experience, HDDs don't fail gradually - they usually fail within a few days of showing symptoms. Check all heat sinks/pipes, fans, ducts, &c. May be a good time to reapply heat sink compound to the CPU. > I do have some nice silver particle thermal grease that I was planning on applying instead of the white ceramic crap, however I wanted to make sure it was worth it before opening my ibook because it's a rather big hassle to get down to the cpu/heatsink. The heatsink does need a new bolt, it's held down by 3 bolts, however they're headless bolts that have just been soldered into mounting holes in the motherboard and the one broke out. I know I need to find a normal bolt to fit it, I'm pretty sure there's space on the bottom of the pcb and the metal sheilding to fit the head of the bolt, so why apple chose to solder them in is beyond me. .You may have a data corruption problem. Reformat. A low-level format may be required. > It's very likely, but it still boots okay, it's just the applications I use seem to have problems. I'm still not entirely sure what the true definition of low level formating is, but rather the next question would be, what kind of a program would I use to do this? I don't exactly have another machine I can pop the hd into, so I know it'd require something to be booted off cd. .An HDD with a faster spindle speed probably won't give you much of a speed boost. It'll help, but not $120 worth. A bigger buffer seems to make more difference. > A bigger buffer I know would help, but I'm not sure that you can get much variety for laptop hd's as far as buffer sizes.

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 12 years ago

. Well, the missing bolt sounds like it could cause a lot of problems. Thermal cycling is liable to cause a gap between the heatsink and CPU. If space between the mobo and case is real tight, you can file/grind down the head of a bolt, so it looks like a washer.
. Re low-level formatting: Wikipedia says it's not necessary (or even possible) with newer HDDs. Evidently one uses "Disk Reinitialization" (see prev link) nowadays. I haven't done a LLF in years (and never on a Mac) and don't remember ever doing a re-init. :( I've heard good things about SpinRite, but it's 89 USD.
. Five-ten years ago, there wasn't much to pick from in the way of laptop HDDs. Plenty of options today.

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 12 years ago

LMAO, I never knew that LLF's were required depending on the orientation of the hard disc. Very understandable, but as you can understand aswell, I wasn't quite around yet back then.

If low leveling doesn't exist today, how come I have UBCD and it's got a whole section in their boot thingie when you pop it in and boot it, there's a whole slew of LLF tools, if I recall correctly, and also dos utilities for pretty much any brand of HD out there. If you haven't tried UBCD yet Nacho, try giving it a whirl and toss it on a CD, it boots pretty quick and there's lots of tools to choose from.

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 12 years ago

. I have UBCD, but don't use it often (I usually just move the drive to another computer, backup, then reformat). . I'll guess that the LLF utils are for older drives. Try 'em and see what happens.

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 12 years ago

Yes, but how do I boot UBCD on a PPC mac? Or do they make a distro for macs?

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 12 years ago

. Try searching for things like "HDD recovery +Mac", &c.

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 12 years ago

Oh yeah, and I forgot, it's not mac, Damn

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Big Bwana
Big Bwana

Reply 12 years ago

do like Nacho said, I've seen older dells choked full of dust suddenly come to life after getting a little squirt from a can of compressed air simply cleaning them out.....

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Punkguyta
Punkguyta

Reply 12 years ago

Believe it or not, this thing is rather spotless inside, as the fan doesn't come on unless it's about to die from heat, that's just the way apple programmed the firmware, and unfortunately for my particular model of ibook, there is no known way of fan control through software.