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K'nexers (and others too) - please read Answered

I have noticed recently that a number of members have been arguing with each other, and myself over similar subjects. Some of it is still hanging over from the zak incident which has subsided now. But, the majority of it is to do with skill, and hierarchy. Let me tell you all something, and it does apply to almost all k'nexers, including me, except for a select few.

K'nex is a toy, in principle. It is meant to be fun. The whole point of k'nex on instructables in the first "era" (and, in fact, instructables itself) was to show the world what you have made (I have been browsing the site since mid 2007, and have witnessed this). But in the last year or so, in the k'nex section of instructables, k'nex hasn't been meant just for fun for a lot of people. It has become a competition. I don't know why, but it started at the invention of KI. Now I'm not pointing fingers, but since the split of members, there has been a rivalry between KI and instructables. Then, KI members decided that they were all better and more advanced in k'nexing skill that iblers, and then the majority quit ibles all together. This started a full scale feud. There are arguments, not because of the people, but because of their website "allegience".

Now, this has become even worse, with people coming in from nothing and arguing simply because they can.

K'nex is a toy, meant to be fun. There should be no competition, or hierarchy. We seem to have forgotten the whole point of the site. To show the world what you have made, and to help each other make them better, not to make fun of people who aren't as good as you. We can still have fun, just don't make fun and arguments.

Think.

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DJ Radio

10 years ago

If you heard episode 1 of knex podcast, someone said that "the people who are competing are having fun because of the competition." Sure the site sux, but sometimes they say good stuff.

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yerjokingDJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

The site doesn't suck. You just dislike it because you lost a battle you started.

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yerjokingDJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

You clearly do, since you never keep quiet about it. You keep coming into KI under different alias'. You also post comments, but yeah you're right, nobody cares, you're a nobody.

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DJ Radioyerjoking

Reply 10 years ago

You do realize white_flag has a meaning to it? In the millitary, it means that you won't attack. And no, I aint a nobody, if anything, you are.

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yerjokingDJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

Mkay. So you admit you were wrong? And you don't understand the meaning of the word "nobody".

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Kineticyerjoking

Reply 10 years ago

Seriously, why are you so negative about everything? Its not like you have any good ables. All you do is criticize. Its getting old. Dj's one of the best people on here-and he didn't even say anything and you start insulting him. If your going to saying at least make it worth saying.

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yerjokingKinetic

Reply 10 years ago

Lolk, people have seen my guns. You, have not.

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DJ Radioyerjoking

Reply 10 years ago

Then post them as a slideshow or something...

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LowneyDJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "> I think this kind of convo is what this forum is trying to prevent!</span>

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Lowneyyerjoking

Reply 10 years ago

 I think this kind of convo is what this forum is trying to prevent!

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knexjay

9 years ago

I honestly like both sites. They both contribute great weapons and ideas.

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The Jamalamknexjay

Reply 9 years ago

Don't get me wrong, I like both too. But I didn't like all of the fighting.

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knexjayThe Jamalam

Reply 9 years ago

I dont either, its just stupid. Fighting over a fun toy.

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dsman195276

10 years ago

Man, I have really gotten out of the loop with everything thats going on here, but if I had to say my opinion:

K'nex is a toy, meant to be fun. There should be no competition, or hierarchy. We seem to have forgotten the whole point of the site. To show the world what you have made, and to help each other make them better, not to make fun of people who aren't as good as you. We can still have fun, just don't make fun and arguments.

Very true, Many projects seem to get rated up or rated down just because of who made them, and new builders are not given the ratings they deserve, or the help they need to get better. Another thing that seems to happen alot is that when ever someone very well known says something, it is automatically taken as the true. While it very well maybe the true, a lot of times it is biased somewhat, and this tends to lead to arguments since everyone who likes that person automatically sides with them, throwing the other idea out the window.

It's funny really, you would figure that a bunch guys playing with K'NEX would have nothing to fight about...

Why can't we all just be one big happy family?

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The Jamalamdsman195276

Reply 10 years ago

Yeah, good to see someone's on my side :) We should start a new age :O

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DJ Radiodsman195276

Reply 10 years ago

We should have an option to disable ratings altogether, like youtube has. And I agree that it happens like that, IAC's striker pistol is no different from some newcomer's ratchet slingshot, yet everyone doesn't think so. But it is possible for newcomers to become well respected and well known, you just have to pull the right strings. I might post a guide on how I became so successful in the first place.

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dsman195276DJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

I like the idea to be able to disable ratings.I think that you would have to be able to chose to have ratings or not, since most "normal" instructables would still want to have ratings. Any your totally right, besides a better body and such things, IAC's striker is just a ratchet slingshot. Most of the praise it gets is a combination of it being powerful, and just the fact that IAC made it. Don't get me wrong, it is a great gun, but maybe just not as good as people say it is. I think that the biggest thing that shows this is the inferno. the gun sucks, no offense mepain, but it does. it doesn't even always work correctly. but since mepain posted it, everyone loved it. Check your inbox. There should be a PM from me in a few minutes.

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DJ Radiodsman195276

Reply 10 years ago

I think I would have liked most people when they were new. The only person I wouldn't have liked when they were new was me

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dsman195276DJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

Ya, I agree with you there(Of coarse, I did know some of the people when they where relatively new, I will have been here 2 years in October).

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DJ Radiodsman195276

Reply 10 years ago

dats rad dawg. Oh, and check out how I made your collaboration totally pointless.

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dsman195276DJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

Not totally pointless. Were expanding on what is said in that intro thing.

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oodalumps

10 years ago

The last time I tried to dissuade the anger between the two groups, my comments got deleted. I think the Ibles admins want you guys to keep hating us.

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wizkid7oodalumps

Reply 10 years ago

Ha! You took the time to type this whole article out about being nicer to people, but you totally trashed me for no reason. :)

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The Jamalamwizkid7

Reply 9 years ago

Me? I didn't trash you for no reason. You stole half of my gun. Reason.

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wizkid7The Jamalam

Reply 9 years ago

 Naa man, lets be honest here. My gun was built in april of 2008. I forgot the actual date, some time at the end of April.. Unlike you, I got over it. If there is anyway to retrieve my old forum topic posted in april, I would do it. Unfortunately,, that will never happen. I guess you'll hold a grudge for the rest of your life, but at least I know it's original, and that's all that matters.

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The Jamalamwizkid7

Reply 9 years ago

I didn't hold a grudge lol, I'm over it. I'm just saying; there was a reason.

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wizkid7The Jamalam

Reply 9 years ago

 Hey the Jamlam. I got good news. Just look at the pictures.

My camera isn't so good, So I adjusted the exposure, and sharpness, so there is no disputing these pictures were posted on the last day of march.

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DJ Radiooodalumps

Reply 10 years ago

I dont think they got deleted, just lost in the wave.

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DJ RadioKnarez

Reply 10 years ago

Its kinda like admins on KI deleting posts that did not follow the rules.

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KnarezDJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

Which makes sense, except oodalumps didn't break any rules.

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DJ RadioKnarez

Reply 10 years ago

Maybe they thought it was against the "be nice" policy or something. I dont know what happened or what he said, so Im just throwing ideas on what happened out there.

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canidaoodalumps

Reply 10 years ago

Not sure which thread you mean, but we just delete threads that violate the Be Nice policy. Sometimes it starts well, but degenerates...

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Seleziona

9 years ago

 WOW! you can put a lot of meaning into two paragraphs!

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AppleFizz

9 years ago

    I totally agree with you on this one, Jamalam.  I, as well as others, love seeing the comment number go up on their instructables. But then when they click on the link to see what people are saying, it's some stupid fight that ends up having nothing to do with the gun or knex at all.
   I'm not familiar with KI, but the whole "fun" topic you covered is why I joined this website in the first place. The fact that we have turned children's toys into WMDs still fascinates me. The race for the most efficient and the coolest knex gun won't ever cease, but why argue?
 
"K'nex is a toy, in principle. It is meant to be fun." 
 Think.

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insanecreator92

10 years ago

This is Madness...This is Sparta!!!!! DEATH TO KI.

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Lowney

10 years ago

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; "> It's like everyone has rated my gun 0.5*! I don't even know why! </span><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 5px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; "><a style="color: rgb(255, 82, 0); text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; " href="https://www.instructables.com/id/Knex-LOSA-pistol/">www.instructables.com/id/Knex-LOSA-pistol/</a></div></span>

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