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Knexsayer vs. BR8 Answered

I made a forum topic on which weapons people would prefer in a knex war. The knexsayer, or BR18. It seems most people prefer the BR18. Now I'm wondering: BR8, or knexsayer?
Give your opinions!

My opinion: The BR8, because it is super-light compared to the Knexsayer, and I get a better range with the BR8.
You?

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An Villain
An Villain

10 years ago

This is like the M16 vs. P90 debate, for a war in close quarters and with lots of people you would want the TR-18 because it is a short weapon where the Knexsayer is large and unwieldly, but for sniping or field warfare you would want the knexsayer as it has a longer stock, has a nice heft (and i really like a nice heft in a weapon) and some form of sights. Another reason is the Knexsayer has a lot of moving parts to get fouled up if hit against something when you turn around when this is nonexistent in the TR-18, also the TR-18 has a larger capacity, but less ammo stability, so rounds may fall out if amed downwards so again, you would want a Knexsayer for speed sniping or field battle, or a TR-18 for close quarters fighting, or indoor warfare.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 10 years ago

I would think it is the other way around, since the knexsayer gets better ROF due to it's pump, and its capable of firing shot.

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Fred the Penguin
Fred the Penguin

11 years ago

depends

k-sayer is heavier but had a faster reload time
br is alot lighter but returning the turret is just annoying, (yes I know about the ratchet mod)

personally I would use neither.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

What would you use then?

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Fred the Penguin
Fred the Penguin

Reply 11 years ago

a light single shot, it may have a long firing interval, but there is no long reload time like the br

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Maybe you should try a bolt action like ZKAR or AR-4.

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Fred the Penguin
Fred the Penguin

Reply 11 years ago

umm... FSSR-C? but im battle you dont want something overly complex, this is why a tr or wrecktangle is good

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Bolt actions have relatively simple mechs.

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Fred the Penguin
Fred the Penguin

Reply 11 years ago

not really, the ammo can jam (never happened to me) the bolt can break, the bands can break, they have a long-ish reload time, not sturdy.

what can screw up on a Wrectangle? (apart from the trigger)

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Lowney
Lowney

11 years ago

Knexsayer without the stock. Definitely. 

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

No.
Well, I guess it's your decision, but I'm 99.98% sure you'd get PWND.

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Lowney
Lowney

Reply 11 years ago

The K'nexsayer is heavier yes, but it has a faster reload time (pump action), is much more intimidating and I have not noticed any real difference in range. I made it with my own stock and stripped it down of uneccessary parts to make it lighter. I also added a scope :D
I'm afraid I don't have any pictures of it, but I am seriously considering making my own version which can take the BR18 or BR36 turrets. But I probably won't get round to it.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

How in the world would it being pump-action lessen the reload time?!
And it isn't just lighter, it's also smaller, more customizable, and can use more rubberbands.

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Lowney
Lowney

Reply 11 years ago

 I meant to pull back the ram. It's much easier that to use a slide or pull-back. And I noticed that the K'nexsayer is compatible with the BR18 and BR36 turrets. And I like BIG guns anyway, they look cooler and in my opinion the k'nexsayer is heavily modifiable, KillerK just stripped it down of everything except the bare bones. I think the Knexsayer is more reliable with it's trigger too.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Actually, the BR8 is EXTREMELY customizable.  Yes, I've seen knexsayers with 18 shot turrets lol.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Hmmm. I wonder where you would've seen that?

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

No durr sherlock.  I do check KI like once a week just to see if there is something posted.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

What happened to "I DON'T LOOK AT KI SH** ANYMORE!!!!!!!!"?

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

I learned my lesson.  Turns out something I thought to be original and never done before, was done on KI, but it was slightly different.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Glad to hear it!
What was the thing? The 18sayer? Or something else?

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

I don't know what it was called.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Well... what'd it do?

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Shoot rods/oodammo?

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Uh..... yeahidunno.

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Lowney
Lowney

Reply 11 years ago

 What would you go for? A K'nexsayer with a BR18 turret or the TR18?

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

The knexsayer with the 18 shot turret.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Then it'd be like twice as heavy.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Weight is no object to me. 

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

It'd slow you down. Even if you wouldn't think it would.
And if it didn't slow you down, it'd at least slow down your aim.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Not really. 

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Whatever.
I don't care anymore.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

OMG I just realized how ironic/cornythat just sounded. (rub off)

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Lowney
Lowney

Reply 11 years ago

Hi Faive!

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

More reliable? Yeah..... Whatever.
Anyways, I 100% disagree with you, but it's your choice.

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Lowney
Lowney

Reply 11 years ago

Wayya mean yeah whatever? Block triggers are more reliable than true triggers. Mepain's is hooked to a true one.
Lets just agree to disagree on this one.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

I've had the trigger connection fail on the knexsayer.
And yes, we're gonna have to agree to disagree.
So let's just leave it at that.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

I think he meant to re cock the gun. 

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Oh, well I still disagree.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

I'd agree.  It takes about 1.5 seconds for me to cock the BR in my video.  It would take about 1 second for knexsayer.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

I still disagree.
And you've never built it. I have. It takes longer for Knexsayer, due to the part that pulls back the ram being flimsy.
I can unload my BR8 in 7-8 seconds. It takes me about 11 seconds for Knexsayer.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

I figure that pump action=faster ROF.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Yeah, but not when the pump sucks.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Put tape all over it.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

I did. Stretched E-tape, duct tape over that, then rubberbands all around it.

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smilee
smilee

Reply 11 years ago

Ya

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Lowney
Lowney

Reply 11 years ago

Which means that part of you DOESN'T think I would.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

I'd use the knexsayer in a war.  Well, as long as it worked just fine.

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travw
travw

Reply 11 years ago

Yeah, and that's the point. The BR8 always works. I've never had it misfire in any way. Plus, the BR8 has about a 20% better range with the same ammo.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

I'm saying that if I built the knexsayer and it worked fine, I would use it in a war.  The BR8 does work in my experience.