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My theory... Answered

So here is my theory. If you did all the math, (which I did),  and made a syrup of the exact viscosity. Would that syrup flow like water underwater just like water flows in air.

Here is a diagram with all the math there for you.

I created a simple ratio... the number at the bottom right is my perfect syrup viscosity.

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killerjackalope
killerjackalope

8 years ago

Water can flow in water...

In places under the sea underwater rivers have been found, from what I remember it had to do with the salinity and temperature of the water...

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

Yes, I know. I've seen that on tv. I just want the perfect ratio so it would move in the same manner underwater.Not as fast, but nontheless it would.

If you where to do more math, and filmed normal water in the the exact amount of frames per second it might look somewhat the same.

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killerjackalope
killerjackalope

Reply 8 years ago

Get ya now, so you need a sort of viscous fluid, denser and non soluble with water...

Could maybe concoct something using oils and something oil soluble but not water soluble for density...

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 8 years ago

Oils come in a variety of viscosities, especially motor and gear oils.

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 8 years ago

not only that, but "streams" like the Gulf stream, are warmer then the surrounding ocean and flow up the coast and warm the east coast of the USA

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Goodhart
Goodhart

8 years ago

Air flow is viewed by means of fluid dynamics.

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

What are you saying? I understand that.

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 8 years ago

All I am saying is that anything to do with fluid dynamics can be applied here too. For instance: you can take two "flasks" , fill one with CO2, and the other with O2. Now, pour the CO2 into the one with O2 and it will "displace it" (flow to the bottom and push the Oxygen up and out of the flask) as it has a higher density (viscosity). 

Now, as someone else mentioned, if the "syrup" you are using is water soluable, some of it will mix (at the line of demarcation) and it's action will be a bit different then if the syrup is nonsoluable.    

My comment was meant only to say that since fluid dynamics apply in both cases, one can use the same methods of calculation in both cases.

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

So I thought. I still am not sure of how pressure effects this experiment.

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 8 years ago

Well, the answer to:  Would that syrup flow like water underwater just like water flows in air
then, is yes, if they couldn't "mix" and the ratios were comparable. .  

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

Cool! I still would like someone to try it.

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 8 years ago

The "difficulty"" would be in getting the ratios of the densities the same. Water is to air as "what" is to water......and to add to what I posted above.....it would "flow the same way" but not at the same SPEED since water is denser then air, the "syrup" would be tremendously denser then the water......ergo a MUCH slower flow.

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killerjackalope
killerjackalope

Reply 8 years ago

Hot wax, a flowing lava lamp?

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 8 years ago

Yes, and if you notice, the "wax" flows like water, but much MUCH more slowly.

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

Yes, exacts are the only way to go.

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 8 years ago

Well, in much the same way that super sizing something "to scale" will "slow it down" I am afraid that making it that viscous will ultimately have the same results.

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lemonie
lemonie

8 years ago

"flow like water underwater just like water flows in air"

Flow where?

L

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm asking if the syrup would act like water in water like water acts in air. If that makes any sense at all.

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lemonie
lemonie

Reply 8 years ago

Use light-petroleum on water instead.

L

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

Again, if I had it, I would.

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lemonie
lemonie

Reply 8 years ago

If it's a water-based syrup, it's not going to behave in the right way.
Can you get some "white-spirit" or lighter-fluid?

L

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caitlinsdad
caitlinsdad

Reply 8 years ago

Don't know if your equation means anything. You are trying to compare how a liquid behaves in a gas to how a liquid behaves in a liquid. They may all act like fluids but more factors are involved like density, molecular forces where the two substances meet, velocity and pressure, etc.

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

I think this would just be a cool experiment though, someone should try it.

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caitlinsdad
caitlinsdad

Reply 8 years ago

You should try it and see what happens or if you can find a liquid that acts like water flowing through air under water.

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vroom...vroom...
vroom...vroom...

Reply 8 years ago

I wish, you have to have that perfect viscosity in order to do it. Sadly, I don't have the stuff to test different liquid's viscosities, niether do I have a thikening agent to make them the perfect thickness.

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gmoon
gmoon

8 years ago

Eh-hem.

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eclipsed
eclipsed

Reply 8 years ago

Spot on, Chris!