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Not Liable name change Answered

When we released categories in April my intention was to help people find more Instructables that fit their interests. We carefully chose eight categories that broadly represented the site, and encouraged cross-over by allowing Instructables to be in two categories. I imagined that the categories would change and grow with time: If we saw an influx of Instructables of a certain type that couldn't be accommodated by the sub-category keywords, we'd create a new category.

Not Liable was intended for all things that required a safety warning, and it was us thumbing our nose at our overly litigious society. I love the Not Liable category; many of the projects are inspiring, ridiculous, hilarious, and completely irreverent.

However, over the past few months it seems that the specific name Not Liable isn't a great fit for the Instructables that show up there. Also, the focus on caution, safety, and "I am not liable for your actions..." attracts two types (at least two, maybe more) of Instructables that aren't a great fit, and just shouldn't be there at all. First, there are the Instructables that require some discussion of safety, but safety isn't a defining characteristic. For example, if a project involves making a book shelf with a table saw, the author should mention that table saws require care, but this doesn't make it a Not Liable Instructable. On the other hand, safety is at the very core of an Instructable on breathing fire. Second, many people misunderstand the meaning of the name, and assume it's a category only for things that might be illegal or immoral. I firmly believe that information should never be illegal, but there are projects that will never make good Instructables, and some people interpret Not Liable as a call for those projects.

Also, Not Liable has always rubbed my aesthetic sense the wrong way: It's our only two-word category!

So, I propose to change the name of the category to better reflect the Instructables already there, and as a way to encourage more Instructables of the type we want. When we transition, we'll add a "Not Liable" keyword to various Instructables to seed a proper Not Liable sub-category.

So, give us a hand coming up with a new name, and tell us your thoughts.

Brainstorm of potential ideas:
Audacious
Bizarre
Brazen
Deviant
Eccentric
Edge
Freaky
Funky
Imprudent
Irreverent
Offbeat
Outre
Perverse
Shenanigans
Warped

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ewilhelm
ewilhelm

13 years ago

Thank you so much for your feedback. We debated here at Instructables for a long time, and have decided to go with "Offbeat." I think it's a great category name, encourages people to submit even the wackiest Instructables, and is easily understood. Look for the change in the very near future.

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Brennn10
Brennn10

Reply 13 years ago

I love offbeat. Nice pick!

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Kiteman
Kiteman

13 years ago

Eclectic?

Disharmony?

Naah...?

NRA (standing for Not Really Advisable)?

If you had sound effects on buttons, it could make that backward-sucking whistle that mechanics make just before they tell you that the annoying little squeak is going to cost you three months' wages.

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 13 years ago

Oh I like Eclectic, or maybe Caveat ?

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canida
canida

Reply 13 years ago

I like caveat. Of course, I'm also a big fan of outre, which was voted down for similar reasons of insufficient understanding of vocabulary.

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 13 years ago

I suppose you might say it was just "beyond them? ;-)

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 13 years ago

According to an online translator: "Maker Beware" is "Plasmator Caveo" "Beware of the Make" is "Caveo Planto" "Beware of the Task" is "Caveo Negotium" Just plain "Beware" is "Caveo" "Be Careful" is "Exsisto Curiosus"

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VIRON
VIRON

Reply 13 years ago

In Latin, they'll think it's all Magick. "to be" should be smaller than exsisto: Cogito ergo SUM.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 13 years ago

Maybe it really means "let carefulness exist"?

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 13 years ago

caveo, also sounds like it could be something that may send civilization as we know it, back to the caves *lol*

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Whaleman
Whaleman

13 years ago

Irrelevantly Dangerous? Abstractedness? Abstractedly Dangerous? I like long words. They make me feel special!

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ewilhelm
ewilhelm

Reply 13 years ago

I have a favorite from my list, but I'm suddenly taken by "Lab." I like the idea of an Instructable being "from the the lab." I think that captures a positive connotation about something being experimental, innovative, but potentially rough around the edges.

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zachninme
zachninme

Reply 13 years ago

I think "Lab" would be a wonderful keyword, but I think theres a big difference between that, and not liable.

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Firebert010
Firebert010

Reply 13 years ago

Lab sounds great. Dangerous? Destructive?

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zachninme
zachninme

Reply 13 years ago

Yeah, Lab should be a category, but it shouldn't replace not liable.

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VIRON
VIRON

Reply 13 years ago

I like Lab too, it's short and serious and experimental, and everyone knows what it means.

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gyromild
gyromild

Reply 13 years ago

I love The Lab. and perhaps The Pit?

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zachninme
zachninme

Reply 13 years ago

Hm... what about The torture chamber, or the rack if you like one syllabulness...

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ewilhelm
ewilhelm

Reply 13 years ago

Thunderdome! Ha!

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 13 years ago

Thunderclap hmm, no that sounds....too strange.

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whatsisface
whatsisface

13 years ago

Could you not split the category into two? One being something along the lines of "Quirky" and another along the lines of "Unsafe"? Plus it may help lots of people (without GM) to have a "Knex" category. This would make it easier to filter for the lovers/haters of knex.

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ewilhelm
ewilhelm

Reply 13 years ago

K'Nex is a perfect sub-category, and, at this time, does not warrant a full category.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 13 years ago

How about a quarantine enclosure? Like we do here in the UK to make sure pets aren't infected with rabies, they are kept out of circulation for six months.

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trebuchet03
trebuchet03

Reply 13 years ago

Ha! A Category named Quarantinable

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 13 years ago

(Disk'nexted?)

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lemonie
lemonie

13 years ago

Parental Advisory? L

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gyromild
gyromild

13 years ago

Exploratory sounds ok to me..

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zachninme
zachninme

Reply 13 years ago

Wayy to long...

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 13 years ago

and it could have a negative connotation to it......think alien probe...

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VIRON
VIRON

13 years ago

Semisurvivable?
AYOR (at your own risk)? ***
Ultrafatal?
Autolitigious? ***
Suicidal?
Foolish?
Mayhem?
Doom?
Insane? ***

*** still looking for a word for
"Stupid and Dangerous, you have been warned, so don't sue me!"

I like these previous suggestions:

Extreme
Darwinian
Deathwish

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 13 years ago

Risk is a good word. EAYOR Execute at your own risk?

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zachninme
zachninme

Reply 13 years ago

Risky -- it should be an adjective. But then its more than one syllable.

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Goodhart
Goodhart

Reply 13 years ago

How about the plural ? Risks

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VIRON
VIRON

Reply 13 years ago

I'll bump up Risky and Extreme, to soften the "if you try this you will probably die" attitude, and suggest: -Mischeivous -Unapproved -Reckless -Unadvisable ...as well as add a bias toward the category being: *Not fully tested... Experimental... May be unexpected hazards* -Unrefined (the following may be TOO soft on danger:) -Experimental -Preliminary

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trebuchet03
trebuchet03

13 years ago

I remember the term oddball being thrown around :) misshapen whimsical grotesque extreme flippant fickle helter-skelter (hyphenated... one word?) Darwinian Of course Explosions or I'm Still Alive After This Seems like a perfectly reasonable category :p Or, at least would fit a great deal of projects :p

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ewilhelm
ewilhelm

Reply 13 years ago

While Darwinian has good comic value, it still conveys the idea that "you will get hurt doing these projects." That's not what we're trying to do.

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 13 years ago

. Then, in order of my preference: . Imprudent . Eccentric . Shenanigans . Warranty Void . Quirky . All already suggested by others.

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drinkmorecoffee
drinkmorecoffee

Reply 13 years ago

Then go with incommensurable. :-P J/k I see edge on your list, how about edgy?

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drinkmorecoffee
drinkmorecoffee

Reply 13 years ago

Ooh! how about esoteric?

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zachninme
zachninme

Reply 13 years ago

Then why not just "odd"?

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rachel
rachel

Reply 13 years ago

I like 'odd'. It fits in the best with the rest of the categories. 1 syllable, Anglo-Saxon not Latinate, IOW short & sweet.

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drinkmorecoffee
drinkmorecoffee

Reply 13 years ago

Yeah, that works too. But esoteric is a lot more fun to say. :-)

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jessyratfink
jessyratfink

Reply 13 years ago

ooooh! Darwinian. I'm voting for that one.

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NachoMahma
NachoMahma

Reply 13 years ago

. Here's vote #2 for Darwinian. I think that sums it up very well - screw up and you're out of the gene pool.

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drinkmorecoffee
drinkmorecoffee

Reply 13 years ago

I like my words, but Darwinian is better. vote #3 right here.

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zachninme
zachninme

Reply 13 years ago

I love it, but it seems really long...

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its a lion
its a lion

Reply 13 years ago

make me number 4, 5 whatever we are on for Darwinian. plus it may help keep the number of unrelated instructables down in it. "huh, what the heck is Darwinian? my sandwich maker of doom definitely doesnt fit under that..."