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Pardon?? (Update: some have been done) Answered

A brief exchange between myself and Whatsisface utterly confused Keith-Kid, the poor bairn.

That reminded me that, as well as the language confusion between English and American (we walk on pavements, you drive on them), there is a deeper, older division.

I am from Cumberland. It's "Cumbria" now, but it's old - many of the town names are Icelandic and Viking in origin. Parts of the county were so insular that neighbouring valleys had different languages. The town of my birth is Workington - the name translates as "The town of the people of Worca" - the town, and the land around it, were a small tribal state, ruled by King Worca.

So, I thought I'd lay down a little challenge.

What do you think these traditional Cumbrian dialect words mean?

Google if you must, but you're probably wasting your time...

  • Thissen - yourself, you
  • Sneck
  • Shillies
  • Hag worm
  • Segs
  • Scrunt
  • Tupping
  • Uppies and downies - Traditional precursor to football. Played at Easter.
  • Whisht - Quiet, be quiet - "Haud your whisht", Be quiet.
  • Tod - Fox. You can also be "on your tod" = alone.

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whatsisface
whatsisface

11 years ago

Tod meaning to be on your tod?

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whatsisface
whatsisface

Reply 11 years ago

Same meaning as To be on your Bill, Billy No mates.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Point to that man!

Eight to go...

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

I forgot - alone is the English translation. There's an older meaning, from which "alone" was taken.

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whatsisface
whatsisface

Reply 11 years ago

I just realised alone is comprised of a and lone, as in a lone person.

I'm smart, really I am

and I can ride my bike fast.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

You're getting close - what animal is known for wandering around, alone?

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whatsisface
whatsisface

Reply 11 years ago

Wolf.

Ranger

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

No wolves in Cumberland for a few centuries...

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whatsisface
whatsisface

Reply 11 years ago

Then ranger it is.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

You were closer with wolf...

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whatsisface
whatsisface

Reply 11 years ago

Wordsworth.

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whatsisface
whatsisface

Reply 11 years ago

Come on, you must get it, you're a teacher.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

But not an English teacher. It's nothing to do with daffodils, try John Peel instead.

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whatsisface
whatsisface

Reply 11 years ago

So you didn't get the reference? I wandered lonely as a cloud... etc?

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

It's not cloud, either. You were definitely much closer when you thought "wolf".

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ll.13
ll.13

Reply 11 years ago

Cat? wild cat.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Colder...

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CameronSS
CameronSS

Reply 11 years ago

Er...fox? As in the picture?

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

He shoots, he eventually scores!

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Ah, but what is a tod when one is on it?

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Keith-Kid
Keith-Kid

11 years ago

What's a bairn? *shame*

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

A youngling.

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crapflinger
crapflinger

11 years ago

kite...you do know that you're single handedly ruining the internet by actually putting something educational on it right? someone post some porn to equalize the balance....QUICK! Thissen would be yourself?

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Correct!
(Did you google?)

As for porn, I suppose one of those words could be taken as rude. Or fun, if you're a sheep.

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crapflinger
crapflinger

Reply 11 years ago

hmmm that didn't post right...stupid auto formatting " “Tha’ won’t go in cos’ of an attercop? Tha’s an attercop thissen!”. ~tha: you; thissen: yourself.~ ""

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

LOL

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crapflinger
crapflinger

Reply 11 years ago

hehe yeah i'd defy anyone to translate that last quote from me about the attercop if i hadn't posted the link to WWWords

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

I like the extension - cross-grained people. I know a couple of people like that on this site...

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tomonto
tomonto

11 years ago

Uppies and downies

elevator?

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Uppies and downies is a lot older than elevators!

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tomonto
tomonto

Reply 11 years ago

dumbwaiter ?

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Way off track...

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tomonto
tomonto

Reply 11 years ago

:( *sob*

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tomonto
tomonto

Reply 11 years ago

does it happen to be a historical version of football, dating to Medieval times. all hail the power of teh googlez.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

On the nose!

Up and Down being directions in a town on a hill. There are no limits on team-size, and matches sometimes last late into the night (the match ends with the first goal), with the ball sometimes only moving inches at a time in the centre of a giant scrum.

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ll.13
ll.13

11 years ago

Uppies and downies Referring to the social ladder?

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Certainly a social phenomenon, but wholly working class.

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Weissensteinburg
Weissensteinburg

11 years ago

Segs - A two wheeled method of transportation?

Kite, do you guys have an oil well in your back yard?

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whatsisface
whatsisface

Reply 11 years ago

Last kind of Cumberland Farm I heard of made Cumberland Sausage.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Segs are vaguely connected to transport...

Cumberland Farms is just a distributor - I think they may have started as a cooperative.

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Keith-Kid
Keith-Kid

11 years ago

LOL at the keywords!

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ll.13
ll.13

11 years ago

Thissen
This one? 'kay, that was probably a total failure.

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Labot2001
Labot2001

Reply 11 years ago

Nah, you must be confusing Cumbria with the American South.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

This'n, meaning "this one" is just modern laziness.

Thissen is pronounced thi-sen - slight emphasis on the second syllable.

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ll.13
ll.13

11 years ago

Whisht
Shut up (or be quiet)

=D

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

You googled!

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ll.13
ll.13

Reply 11 years ago

Did not! I don't live in Scotland for nothing!

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

So I've heard ;-)