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Team Ball Concept Answered

Dear all,

first of all, hello to all of you, I'm new to this site, but I've already seen some wonderful things on here, and they are a true inspiration source for the projects I'm working on during my study as an Industrial Designer.

I've got a question about a concept of mine, which I will explain briefly to give you an understanding of what I'm trying to create:

When playing a sport, let's take football (by which I mean soccer) there's a ball.
My idea is to make the ball represent the ball possession (or actually the ball passing between players) of the teams. For instance, you have a blue and a red team, and what I want to do is make the ball color almost entirely blue if the blue team is in ball possession all the time. This way people will be more stimulated to play with eachother, passing the ball to eachother instead of scoring goals individually.

The way I want the ball to change color, is by making it detect when it's being kicked, by a football shoe (which has to have some implemented technology as well). So everytime it's being passed from one player to another of the same team, the ball will color more blue or red.

I need some help with the technology as I'm totally new to this aspect,
1. How to make the ball change colors? (LED's, or optical fiber: http://www.imtech.nl/SiteContent/EUPortal/Images/ImtechNV/newsroom/succes/17%20glasvezel.jpg, or any other suggestions?)

2.How to make the ball communicate with the shoes?
One thing I've been looking into is RFID - chips/reader, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaNnOHSJ-cQ, and then make the RFID-chips with a very limited range, so that only when the ball (with the reader) is close enough, the reader will detect the chip.

But this seems like a last option, and I actually want something better.
What I basically want is that when the shoe and the ball touch eachother, the coloring will happen. The requirements are that the shoes, must contain unique information so that the ball will know on what team that shoe is, another thing is that it can't be fragile, as the ball will be kicked by the shoe.

Now as I'm fairly new to technology, I don't expect to build something with the best technology possible. As I have to write a final report, I will just present the technology idea in it. But it would be great if I could actually show an interactive prototype version of my concept. Therefore, if you have any suggestions, please write down the best possible way to create this, and a probably less perfect way that I can demonstrate (I'm willing to learn a lot over the next few weeks).

Thanks in advance!

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ItsTheHobbs

10 years ago

There's a game that is sold in stores, it's called cosmic catch, or something like that I think it would be a good place to start. There are hand straps with different colors, and it says "caught, blue!" and stuff like that. The LED color changer is a great idea.

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Crimson1989ItsTheHobbs

Reply 10 years ago

Sweet, I didn't know this existed, I'll try to find what technology they've used to make it work and it will really be useful to me! Thanks for your input!

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Crimson1989

10 years ago

Sweet, I guess you're as brilliant as I am then! But no suggestion on how to approach this?

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lemonieCrimson1989

Reply 10 years ago

Kinetic generator might be useful for kick-detection. If you had the entire surface covered in a transparent touch-screen / piezo type thing, you could use braille-type markings on the boots and 'read' the patterns. That's probably too advanced to be practical, but you seem to have covered most of what anyone could suggest already. L

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Crimson1989lemonie

Reply 10 years ago

Thanks for your reply! You're suggestion indeed is a little too advanced to be practical. The thing is though that I was looking at way to do it, and someone suggested to use RFID, so I did some research on RFID and was actually looking for something similar, a chip and a reader, because RFID has some downsides. So I started searching on the internet for things 'similar' to RFID, but I couldn't really find anything. I guess I'm looking for a chip in the ball and in the shoe, for the kick detection, but not RFID :S

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lemonieCrimson1989

Reply 10 years ago

You'd need the RFID scanner in the ball, and the chips in shoe. But here's a thought: If the ball is coloured by emitted-light, the shoes can detect this. Simple blue / red far ends of the spectrum and the shoe could tell what colour ball it's toe was heading towards. If the shoe spots it's the 'wrong' colour it could send a 'change' pulse to the ball. Ball just has to 'flip colours' when it gets the signal? L

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Crimson1989lemonie

Reply 10 years ago

Not really flipping colors now, it's more like, the more the red team is passing the ball will become more red, like in the sketch. So for example, the ball will contain 100 LED's, then 1 pass will make 10 LED's red, another pass will add another 10 LED's to that, etc.. But in your thought, is it possible to make a chip send a pulse to the ball as soon as it hits it? Because what I've read about RFID is that the reader sends a signal to the chip, and this signal is used as 'power' by the chip to send back the unique RFID code.

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lemonieCrimson1989

Reply 10 years ago

If you used a kinetic generator / piezo to detect an impact you could use that as a trigger?
Now I'm thinking it'd probably be easier to have a spectator control the colour with a remote...

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Crimson1989lemonie

Reply 10 years ago

I might want to explain people how it would work in reality, so I'll do research on the kinetic generator and probably use it in my explanation. For demonstration purposes I might just use a remote control indeed! Thanks for your replies lemonie, they've been a great help!

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ampeyro

10 years ago

wow, i've been working on a similar idea for creating a new sport