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This is in response to pro accounts... Answered

This suggestion would either eliminate the necessity for pro accounts or reduce the price to pay for one. It wouldnt bother some of us a bit if you put ads on the left hand corner of the page as well as the very bottom of it, below the copyright link. Also, I notice that there are no ads when you make/edit a new instructable or forum topic. You could put some there. If this isnt possible with you guys, or you just dont want to do it, I understand. I am not against pro accounts, But some others are, and I cant really afford one myself (I cant even get a stinkin job due to child labor laws).

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santy22
santy22

11 years ago

err. let me tell you something.... i shall not i CANNOT live in instructables without the all step function. and i can't pay for that because am 14. so, the all steps should remain free and disable another fucncion. PRO F*CKED UP INSTRUCTABLES AND IT WILL LEAD IT TO DOOM!

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Reply 11 years ago

 But if you are only 14 or merely  functional at  an age 14, you probably haven't yet learned  what the small stuff is not to sweat.  This is not it.

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waynewerner
waynewerner

Reply 11 years ago

 This is actually a problem - alienating folks who normally hang out and add value to the site.

When people post/post instructables/read instructables they should have access to the whole instructable (and arguably the ability to save to pdf - it's not exactly an expensive piece of technology, and if they're using one that is they got shafted).

I was planning to write a new instructable... but I can't download pdfs or view all steps on one page anymore, so what incentive do I have? I can understand they need to make money, and everyone knows that ad revenue doesn't bring in a whole lot of content, but when you charge for previously free content - especially content that you neither create or reimburse for - then you run a risk of alienating your target audience.

OTOH, it provides a great opportunity for competition in the market, and if someone strikes while the iron (or tempers) are hot, they stand a good chance of pulling some regulars. Plus they could spend a few $$ and download all the PDFs from here that are CC-Share and Share alike and publish them on their own site.

If I had some more money and time, I'd do it.

I understand instrucables needs to monetize their site - but they picked the wrong way to do it, IMHO. There's no transparency about what they're doing or where they want to go (other than make some money) and no real feeling of community to it when most of us have felt that there's a strong community here - at least I have.

Anyhow, just my 2 centavos for now...

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lemonie
lemonie

Reply 11 years ago

AAAA! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!!!!! L

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egbertfitzwilly
egbertfitzwilly

Reply 11 years ago

Well first you need to learn some patience and a little manners. Surprisingly enough you will not die from reading the steps one at a time, it just takes longer. Secondly the Internet does not owe you a free do it yourself site, we are lucky to have such a site at all and need to find ways to help it survive. My suggestion? Get a paper route, save your pennies and buy an account.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Well said!

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bumpus
bumpus

11 years ago

I wouldn't publish this until prices are finalized.. But even still, I doubt it'll be over $10..

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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Zaphod Beeblebrox

Reply 11 years ago

i payed 40 bucks for min e a few months ago...lol

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xACIDITYx
xACIDITYx

Reply 11 years ago

And I don't think it's too bad. You can still access the material without a pro-account, you do realize that, DJ?

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Yeah, but you cant access secondary images with a free account, which i think should be available to all, because then you cant follow directions.

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Tool Using Animal
Tool Using Animal

Reply 11 years ago

Is this what you are referring to? "Access to secondary images sizes on an Instructable's step" I guess I'm interpreting it differently, as the ability to see the high res images.

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Lithium Rain
Lithium Rain

Reply 11 years ago

I read it as ability to resize images.

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

When there are two or more images on a step, the 2nd onwards stay small if you are not "pro".

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Kiteman
Kiteman

Reply 11 years ago

Agreed.

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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Zaphod Beeblebrox

11 years ago

i hate labor laws too,thank goodness lawnmowers were invented,it payed for my longboard!

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gmjhowe
gmjhowe

11 years ago

Well, the problem is (i believe) that the percentage being generated by the ads is not enough to run the site off.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

More ads=more money.

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gmjhowe
gmjhowe

Reply 11 years ago

No, more page hits = more money.

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Doctor What
Doctor What

Reply 11 years ago

Hmmm..... *thinks for a second*, how to get more page hits...... *thinks again* Aha! (gets to work)

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Reply 11 years ago

 I can guess what you have in mind but consider this. In the event increased web page hits cause and advertiser to spend more money without making more money they will pull the ad to place it elsewhere. This ain't the advertisers first rodeo, you may do instructable more harm than good.

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Reply 11 years ago

 Advertising is Advertising.  The old saw please patronize our sponsors as valid as ever. Page hits that don't results in increased revenue will have the advertiser moving there advertising dollars to venue that pay off, even if it's another web page. The net result is that more hits may not equal more money

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

more page hits+more ads=Even more money.

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lebowski
lebowski

Reply 11 years ago

Just FYI, more ads does not equal more money.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

oh ok....

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Mr Cheeseo
Mr Cheeseo

11 years ago

I can survuive more ads easilly. But paying a fee for what I do now for ffree seems outragous.

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Reply 11 years ago

So in other words you among others have been so spoiled by free you expect services that cost money to provide to remain free forever? If so hold on to your butt, chances are we will be seeing more and more formerly for free web services become service for a fee. Gravy trains generally hit the end of the line.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

Pro accounts only have 2 features in which you get for free now, and they also have 6 new features... But I will have to see if they are good enough to pay (if they do pro accounts)

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Weissensteinburg
Weissensteinburg

Reply 11 years ago

Also, all members who registered before pro accounts are implemented will have a certain trial period of having a pro account.

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Keith-Kid
Keith-Kid

Reply 11 years ago

Really? This is something people gotta know...

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Keith-Kid
Keith-Kid

Reply 11 years ago

At least, those who did not read through the whole post. You dont know what you have until you lose it...so lets see how I feel once I lose my pro trial.

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Gjdj3
Gjdj3

Reply 11 years ago

Haha, tl;dr

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Keith-Kid
Keith-Kid

Reply 11 years ago

(psst. me neither) (psst, psst. I had to google that)

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Bahamutzero
Bahamutzero

11 years ago

The ads i can handle, so long as they are not in my way of clicking something. the thing I don't get is why I need a pro account just to see other images for some of the diy projects.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

its not the images, its something else.

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sdfsdfsdfsdf
sdfsdfsdfsdf

11 years ago

Guess money speaks higher... its a shame, really.

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spiritwolf7984
spiritwolf7984

11 years ago

I have 1 thing to say We have the space for more ad's

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Camisado
Camisado

11 years ago

Heh heh heh.... No ads for me! I didn't pay a single cent or anything, but no ads never popped out when I'm browsing trough I'bles, no sir. Does this have anything to do with living in Indonesia/accessing I'bles from a special modem that can only be used in Indonesia? Either way, yay for me!

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Camisado
Camisado

Reply 11 years ago

*ever, not never.

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

lol, seriously, you shouldnt do that here. It may discourage my idea and make them implement pro accounts.... If its through no fault of your own, then I guess its ok, but if there is a setting that you clicked to block ads, it isnt right. Event though you never click them, they are what currently gives money to ibles.

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Camisado
Camisado

Reply 11 years ago

There is no setting that allows me to block ads, I simply don't get ads just like that...

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DJ Radio
DJ Radio

Reply 11 years ago

lol

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zachninme
zachninme

11 years ago

Buy one of those visa gift cards. You can get them almost anywhere now, although I suggest the drugstore. You can spend the leftover cash on anything.