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# User-given Patches Wear Off in a Month. :( (Nevermind :D) Answered

After receiving a donut patch, I got an e-mail from Robot (he likes to send e-mail), and I read that Once someone receives a patch, it will wear-off in a month.. I think that time-span is kinda short.. Anyone else?

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If you read the discussion below (and it's a pity that Bumpus didn't properly edit the text of his topic), you'll find Canida's very clear statement on the subject. Once you've found that and read it, let us know what you think.

Iactually read that right after I posted that comment

Actually, the email you get when patched still says they only last for a month.

We know. That's what prompted Bumpus's original posting, and all the discussion which ensued. Canida's reply below clarifes the poorly written e-mail; patches stay visible on your profile page for just a month, and then fall down to the "view all" subpage.

Hmm, what if instead of only 1 month, they lasted for a FULL 31 days ? ;-)

But one in every 12 patches you get lasts for 28 ;)

yeah, except ever 4 years, it lasts 29, unless that year ends in double 0 and is not divisible by 40 or something like that.....

I thought there were no exceptions to leap year.

Here is an official algorithm for Leap year:

if year modulo 400 is 0 then leap
else if year modulo 100 is 0 then no_leap
else if year modulo 4 is 0 then leap
else no_leap

Reading from the bottom up, it is saying leap yr every 4 years, unless the year is divisible by 100, then there is no leap yr. UNLESS it is also divisible by 400, which then IS a leap year (I did the calculation a bit differently in my initial post, but it works out the same way).

For further reading on the subject, see The Leap Yr. & Leap Day usage explanation

oh ok. The greeks or romans (I forgot which) found out that a year is actually 365 and 1/4 days, so they decided that every 4 years, they stick an extra day at the end of February. I was going by the logic that time knows no numbers, we just made them up so we can keep track of time.

yes, well we use a strict numbering system and none of it fits well into the sceme of thing; at least not perfectly. The Israelis have an intercalorie month they insert when the seasons get out of whack....since they use a 360 day per year calender.

Is that what matzoh is all about? To give you extra calories between Lent and the Assumption?

yes, I miss-pelled it (well not the word it but the word intercalary)

Not to be a language mechanics facsist, but I think that speliing is intercalary.

(BTW, Goodhart, if you see this post, would you let me know if you got my PM, and whether you ever did find my "Flunking Vector Calculus with Arlo Guthrie" post?
I'm beginning to think that Robot doesn't like me or something.)

I didn't see the Calculus post, sorry. Yeah, I goofed on the spelling (or the typing more often then not) ;-)

Yes, I mispelled "spelling" on purpose. Just to prove that I'm not a language mechanics fascist. That's why I mispelled "fascist," too. Really. Yup. Both of 'em.

Time (the whole Universe, actually) is nothing but numbers. The unreasonable ability of mathematics to describe nature is an enduring mystery. The problem, of course, is that Nature doesn't have any interest in our mundane integers, so there's no reason why any two rotational periods should be exactly multiples of one another.

There are lots of exceptions to leap year, as Goodhart has outlined. The most recent, which you might even be old enough to remember, was the year 2000.

lol, I was like 4 in 2000. I started remembering stuff in the year 2001.

They stick around, just not front and center cluttering up your page. You'll still have a cumulative patch archive for everything older than a month. Robot needs some reprogramming, as he's still sending out a confusing message!

Ah, that's actually pretty cool. Thanks!

Oh-my-gasp! no perpetual donuts? that's sad. *sigh*

Commenting without reading, again? See below.

You seem to have a knack for not recognizing sarcasm/jokes. : )

Given the clarifcation from both Canida and Fungus, would you consider editing the title of this topic, to reduce userr confusion?

According to Fungus in the Donut Party! thread, "They actually don't. Old patch message is old. They'll stick around."

Oh, come on! That's ridiculous. What, do they go bad? Make them permanent!

seconded!

Fourthed.

I haz a temporary cookie patch now.

That makes me a sad panda.

So "patch" is actually "henna tattoo"?

I can kind of understand. They don't want your entire profile to fill up with patches.

defeats the whole contest idea

Those are now labeled as Achievements and still permanent.

I think he is talking about the user generated contest idea.

this is probably the second pro fail that isnt a bug.

Yea permanent seems much better. Any staff know why it was decided to be this way ?