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Varistor gets hot quick,why? Answered

I bought a beefy 30A 250V relay,in order to protect components,by the way the wall socket in my area is 220v.i used two 10D271K varistors,one conneted to relay's core.another connected to relay's contact.i burned the one in connection with core of relay.i didn't realised the problem at first until i replaced another 10K271k.this time i touched the parts after i plugged it in.i could locate the problem because i finger told me the varasitor connected to core gets very hot.then i realised i should replace 12D271k with a bigger value.but i don't know which one is OK.maybe 10D471K.the databook shows 10D471K withstand 470V spike.has anybody experienced the same problem?




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rickharris

4 years ago

Why not use a 5 volt relay? then you don't need all the rest of the circuit

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gada888rickharris

Answer 4 years ago

The 30A relay i'm using is also rated 5v. I choose this as it is triggered by a SSR-Opto. i thought it could be safer.i tried to make another circuit with a 5v 16A relay,The principle is like what you suggested,This time it works.but i'v been told this version should by plugged in a ground fault socket.

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rickharrisgada888

Answer 4 years ago

Ok working with mains voltages is always risky and you should safeguard your self and others any way you can.

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gada888

4 years ago

The diagram is here.

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steveastroukgada888

Answer 4 years ago

Why. Are you taking full current THROUGH the varistor ???? That's not what they're for.

Also, given the usual ratings of SSRs, they are protected to full mains voltage+transients.

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gada888steveastrouk

Answer 4 years ago

Yes,you are right.I think i misplaced some component.

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rickharris

4 years ago

A circuit diagram or even a picture of what you have will help some what.

On a general issue If it's too hot then it is passing too much current.

I am not at all clear why you have put a voltage dependent resistor across the relay what are you trying to do?

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steveastroukrickharris

Answer 4 years ago

I suspect his varistor is turning on as the AC cycle peaks.

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gada888steveastrouk

Answer 4 years ago

I replaced the 10D271K with10D471K.so far the relay works as i expected.no heating parts anymore,I need time to give it a good test.bcz i 'm fiddle with the AC 220v.

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Josehf Murchison

4 years ago

How big is your Varistor the size of your head because that is what you would need for 30 amps.

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gada888Josehf Murchison

Answer 4 years ago

I don't understand.but i noticed the the same value Varistor come in diffirent size.i don't know why.

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Josehf Murchisongada888

Answer 4 years ago

Current is why their are different sizes, it sounds like your Varistor can't handle the current. If you have a Varistor that takes 10 amps and you put 30 through it you will fry it.

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gada888Josehf Murchison

Answer 4 years ago

Thank you very much,my relay board still have problems.when i connect it to lamp.the lamp flicks.i could hear the sizzling of current.so i presume the problem lies in what you suggested.i'll take another varistor.