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What to do with a 200W solar panel? Answered

I recently got a nice 200W solar panel including controller.
Initial plan was to use it to power the outdoor freezer during the summer and later on to get a 12V compressor for it to avoid the inverter.
Now my agent did an inspection and demands the solar panel has to go as it is too big and makes the backyard look untidy.
To sum it up:
Not allowed to mount it on the roof, in the garden, in the backyard or against a wall....
Only option at this stage would be to mount it on my roof rack but I don't have the time for long camping trips anymore :(
Quite reluctant to just sell it as I thought someone here might still have an idea how to "hide" a big panel so the agent won't notice next time.

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Vyger

Best Answer 2 years ago

I like my other more creative answer better, but on a more conservative level, turn it into a picnic table. Add benches on each side. Most picnic tables spend their lives sitting in the weather with an occasional use once in a great while. If it llooks like the surface might have a problem with being used as a table put a layer of epoxy on it.

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Yonatan24Vyger

Answer 2 years ago

That needs an Instructable...

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Downunder35mVyger

Answer 2 years ago

That's it!
Noone can care about a table in backyard with some cheap chairs around it :)
Damn, now I have to find the time to build a picnic table with solar tracker LOL

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Vyger

2 years ago

I remember reading a concept about using a helium balloon for both wind generators and solar "balloon skin" generators connected to the ground with a tether/anchor. This way the working parts of the generator are well out of the way of anyone AND you don't have a problem with it getting in shadows, either sun or wind. Now that would be fun to try. Fly it just under the legal altitude but high enough so its not a nuisance. If you were to use a group of 4 balloons with variable lines going to a hub of small motors you would be able to track the sun with the panel by shortening and lengthening the lines. Just for fun you could add a small wind generator and then include a remote weather station. Add some cameras and an internet connection and you could make cash from subscribers as you would have a real time eye in the sky platform. Good chance it would not be illegal as nobody has tried it yet.

Then, once your concept is proven and the prototype flies well, you could start making them to sell. A private blimp that makes power and keeps an eye on things. Add a nesting platform with a spy camera an it would be a sanctuary for endangered birds and might get government subsudies.

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Josehf MurchisonVyger

Answer 2 years ago

Great lightning rod.

I like the idea but it needs a hanger for bad weather. If they have a problem with a solar panel I would hate to see how they would react to a hanger.

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Downunder35mJosehf Murchison

Answer 2 years ago

So I use aluminium or steel legs for the table ;)
And I doubt lightning will prefer to strike my solar panel if everything else around is higher, like the sheds on every property around me LOL
I wanted to put up some shade cloth for the windows getting the sun all day long - refused unless I would pay for proper roller shutters or outside blinds.....

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Josehf MurchisonDownunder35m

Answer 2 years ago

I was referring to the zeppelin idea as a lightning rod. Like Vyger I read a number of articles on kite and zeppelin generators, and they made great lightning rods. They need to be put away in bad weather.

I like the table idea if you have a good open space in the yard the perfect camouflage.

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Josehf Murchison

2 years ago

I take it an agent is like a bylaws officer and they can dictate what can be in your yard.

Check the bylaws he may be in the wrong.

Put it on your roof wrack and plug it in when you are parked.

Put it in the front window and now it is your blinds, they may dictate what you have in your yard, but your interior decorating is non of his business.

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Downunder35mJosehf Murchison

Answer 2 years ago

LOl Should have been more precise "Real estate agent", the guy representing my landlord.
Bit weird how it works down here.
And yes, interior is their business too.
Not allowed to put a nail in the wall or just paint a room in the color it like.
But roofrack and plug might be an option is all fails.
With a dual battery controller I can even make sure the external battery is only charged if all the batteries in the car are charged.
Good that it is only three in there so far LOL

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Josehf MurchisonDownunder35m

Answer 2 years ago

Ah we call them "Property Managers" here, a real estate agent just sells homes.

Landlords and tenants act, practically need to read the lease before flushing the toilet.

How heavy is it and could you hang it from a curtain rod?

And I bet since you are renting you can't have a junker or a trailer in the drive ether.

I live in a house under Ontario housing since I'm blind, so I have 3 to go through in order to do any thing outside, bylaws, landlord, and Ontario housing. My landlord is good about what I do inside the house as long as I don't tear out walls and remodel, she don't care.

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Downunder35mJosehf Murchison

Answer 2 years ago

I wish it was as easy here as in Germany for example.
Over there you can pain, put wall papers on, your own carpet and all.
Of course without anyone invading your privacy unless there are complaints or serious concerns.
When you move out and all is in good condition all is good.
It is quite usual that people rent the same flar or house for 30+ years.
My trailer and jetski are a nightmare for my landlord by I stated that all is behind a gate out of sight - plus that nothing in my lease states I can't put them there.
But I am sick and tired of these useless fights over nothing and waiting years for repairs or replacements.

That's the downside of a property market is cut short on purpose to drive prices up, landlords get away with everything.

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Josehf MurchisonDownunder35m

Answer 2 years ago

I wanted a work shop larger than the one I have 6 x 8 feet. I don't drive so I wanted to get a trailer for my workshop and park it in the driveway. My landlord did not care bylaws officer wont let me, said I had to move it to the trailer park.

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Downunder35mYonatan24

Answer 2 years ago

Good one LOOOOL
Noone will notice if I paint my roof like solar panels, well until the next inspection that is ;)

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Josehf Murchison

2 years ago

This might interest you.

http://www.environment.gov.au/climate-change/publi...

Federal trumps provincial or municipal governments.

In many municipalities they passed a bylaw stopping people from putting up cloths lines to dry their clothing.

Once it was pointed out to the federal government of Canada that these bylaws were contrary to federal policies they put an end to these counter productive bylaws.

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rickharris

2 years ago

Put on roof too high to be seen!

Promote it on the basis it will save money to spend on essentials like shoes.

Put on chicken house to run lights to get more eggs.

We have 16 250 watt panels on the roof. 4 Kw in total from which we receive about £800 to £1000 a year from the government as well as enjoying the electricity during the day for free.