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What type of Hand-Planer is this? Answered

My Grandpa recently gave me a super old Hand-Planer which I want to restore, But I don't know it's type...
Does anyone know what type of Hand-Plane this is? I tried to search it on Google, And I think it might be a "Wooden Block-Planer", But I'm not sure

I've attached pictures of it below :)





Also, Am I supposed to say "Hand-Plane" or "Hand-Planer"?

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Yonatan24

3 years ago

Now I saw this, And it looks to me like I have a Bench-Plane. Also because Of the way that I positioned the blade, The other way didn't work..

Can anyone confirm?

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gmoonYonatan24

Reply 3 years ago

Yeah it's not a block plane, 'cause they have the bevel on the blade facing up. That works best to "chop" through stuff like end grain. Block planes also tend to be shorter (~6 to 6.5 in).

I wouldn't get too caught up in the terminology, though. Block planes are very handy, and while the length of a block plane makes them less useful for planing and joining wood (making it very flat), most any kind of (moderate length) plane can be useful for beveling, smoothing, fitting, etc.

Planer and Joiner are older terms than power tools, and can indeed refer to hand planes.

If you haven't sharpened the iron (blade), I'm sure it needs it. A hand plane doesn't really work correctly unless it's really sharp.

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caitlinsdadgmoon

Reply 3 years ago

There's something in appreciation of the beauty and art in woodworking when you look through the wood shavings and see you created the perfect paper thin slice of wood. You realize, hey, I made this harbor freight plane work like a champ because I really sharpened the blade well, had just the right technique of gliding over the wood, hit the grain the right way, straight and true, wait,...I marked it on the wrong side...

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gmooncaitlinsdad

Reply 3 years ago

Spot on for a zen-like experience...

And when that grain tears out, I wanna tear my hair out.

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gmoonYonatan24

Reply 3 years ago

:-D

Favorite-ed and voted!

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Yonatan24caitlinsdad

Reply 3 years ago

I've been able to make some really thin slices of wood, But not to the point that I wanted-- I've been able to do it with a fairly sharp blade/knife, And by adjusting it at (an estimate) 0.2mm below the body/stock

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Yonatan24gmoon

Reply 3 years ago

Toga_Dan told me that it IS a Block-Plane. Now I'm even more confused...

I think I should just refer to it as a "Hand-Plane" :)

I've sharpened it, But I do need to buy higher grit stones, And maybe a honing guide. Ebay should do.

Looks to me like you have some experience... Do you have a maximum grit that you can recommend for me to buy?

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gmoonYonatan24

Reply 3 years ago

The length and the blade angle are not consistent with a block plane, which are kinda the odd-man-out, of planes. Regardless, a block plane is probably the most likely hand-plane a modern carpenter would have today. Most plane functions have been replaced by power tools. It's not as though most modern lumber is delivered rough-sawn. Or moulding is cut by hand.

Still, there are lots of things a plane can do, and in ways that are easier than power tools.

I'd use a block plane and a smoothing plane most often. But I have others (lemme do a comparison photo, later). Even a spoke shave is technically a plane, IMHO.

Yeah, sharpening is an art, and one I have yet to master. I've used a thingie called the Wen "Wet Wheel" for a while, and one of my bench grinders has a third, flat wheel attached at right angles, and that turns very slowly. I might use a honing stone to knock the burr off, by laying the blade flat (bevel up) and carefully drawing the blade across the stone. Both of the power sharpening tools are pretty fine grit.

As caitlinsdad says, check out the sharpening i'bles.

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Yonatan24gmoon

Reply 3 years ago

I agree, A spoke plane should be a plane because it technically does plane the wood...

I've seen several YouTubers use the "Wet Wheels" with a bench grinder, But I don't have the money for that, And don't care really how much it takes me. I have no problem doing it by hand, Since all I have (as of now) is two Hand-Planes...

I've learned how to sharpen them and already practiced quite a while. I still haven't been able to make them very sharp, But to the point that you should be careful with them... I think that if I upgrade to a higher grit stone, They should becomes a lot sharper :)

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gmoonYonatan24

Reply 3 years ago

A spoke shave has an adjustable blade, a set angle and most importantly a "sole" or body -- it's very short, but still works like any other plane. 'Course all planes are chisels, too.

A coarse stone will sharpen the blade to the correct angle, remove nicks and prepare the blade for a real sharpening. But yeah, a finer grit stone is needed to really hone the cutting edge.

BTW, there's a technique for setting the depth of that blade in an old wood-stock plane; not sure if you've seen it: Inertia. Set the blade and wedge in, but not tight. Tap the ends of the plane body with a mallet, and the blade will move slightly, up & down. Drive the wedge home when it's right. The blade may set deeper at that time, so it takes some knowing and doing to get it right...

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Yonatan24gmoon

Reply 3 years ago

Wow, That is EXACTLY what I've been doing, It sounds like common sense to me!

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gmoonYonatan24

Reply 3 years ago

Think I saw that on Roy Underhill's "The Woodwright's Shop." Awesome you figure it out on your own!

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gmoonYonatan24

Reply 3 years ago

Roy Underhill is the host/creator of a public TV show, based out of North Carolina and the longest-running PBS how-to show (the show's website pegs it now at 35 seasons!). It's all traditional woodcraft with hand tools...

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caitlinsdadYonatan24

Reply 3 years ago

Look through the knife-sharpening ibles. Essentially the same tools and techniques. They usually have wet stones or diamond grit, in a kit with combination of grits.

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Yonatan24caitlinsdad

Reply 3 years ago

I̶ ̶d̶i̶d̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶! I watched several videos on YouTube, But forgot about Instructables (***Shaking my head***)-- Going to do that now!

I'll just try to find a fairy cheap stone on eBay, Which I think should do :)

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gmoonYonatan24

Reply 3 years ago

Planes L to R: Bullnose, Stanley No.6 (probably call that a joiner), Craftsman smoothing plane, Stanley block plane, spokeshave. And a Stanley Surform plane at bottom. Note the length of the block plane.

Why include the surform, when it's more of a rasp than a plane? Because they are great for removing epoxy, etc., which dulls a normal plane quick...

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Yonatan24gmoon

Reply 3 years ago

Yes, Thanks you, I have two of those Surform Rasp Planers: One the size of yours, And the other one which is really big

I think the one that I showed in the picture is the most similar to the craftsman smoothing plane.

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Toga_Dan

3 years ago

A planer is a power tool. This. Is a wooden block plane.