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what are we called ? scavengers,mcguyvers? people who build odd usefull stuff out of junk. some computer guys call themselves geeks what are we?

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Goodhart

12 years ago

We're Do-It-Yourselfers, Builders, Engineers, Thinkers, Tinkerers, Scavengers, makers, breakers, musicians, scientists, students, interpreters, providers, users, reporters, advice-givers, enthusiasts, Experts and Novices.
We are THE FUTURE of this world.

There is a term for this, but the wold in general looks at it in a negative light:

Hackers

A hacker is all of the above and then some: but there is a world of difference between the true Hacker and the not-oft-used term: Cracker (not the British version, although some people think we are a little nuts), but a Cracker does not just do, look, dissemble, investigate, and build to learn, a cracker does all this in order to "cause harm or Chaos" (cue Get Smart theme song).

Hackers on the other hand, are seekers, doers, and learners. We are the future, if we don't allow Big Brother to take total control of our minds and actions.

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zachninmeGoodhart

Reply 12 years ago

Yep, we're hackers. Although the rest of the world sees that word in a bad sense.

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Kitemanellomate56

Reply 12 years ago

A "good" hacker:

One who alters or improves the functionality of a mass-produced device, frequently by violating warranty conditions. If computers are involved, the "hack" is usually hardware based. (TV example, McGuyver)

A "bad" hacker:

One who accesses computers or computer systems, either directly, remotely or through third-parties for nefarious purposes, such as theft, alteration or deletion of data or implantation of malevolent software, such as viruses or trojans. (Hollywood example, War Games)

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Goodhartzachninme

Reply 12 years ago

A bad hacker: otherwise known as a "Cracker" Hollywood example: "The Net". BTW: the magazine "2600" cameo's on that movie for a brief moment :-)

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T3h_MuffinatorGoodhart

Reply 12 years ago

Hm.... Yes, I suppose that we are hackers, but some of us aren't "hacking" anything.....

Some of us are just putting stuff together from scratch, whereas I thought that Hackers disassemble or alter already existing objects to create new ones, or add new functions to the existing one.

However, if I had to make one DEFINITIVE term..... I'd say that we're:

Innovative Hackers

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GoodhartT3h_Muffinator

Reply 12 years ago

Some of us are just putting stuff together from scratch, whereas I thought that Hackers disassemble or alter already existing objects to create new ones, or add new functions to the existing one.

I agree, but then again, not. Hackers themselves do not define themselves as "only" disassemblers, but rather innovators that take what is available (putting together from scratch) and make something new from it.

In my opinion, and I hold no one else to this, I feel the term hacker involves innovation on all levels, so to me, innovative hacker is similar to saying innovative innovators ;-) But I won't quibble over it LOL

Above all else, we are learning new ways to do things.

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zachninmeT3h_Muffinator

Reply 12 years ago

Ohh, Innovative Hackers... I like it! And I bet it'd be looked upon better to the "other people" But even if its from scratch-- is it really? If I made a AVR development board from scratch, I'd be taking into account other successful things, MiniPov3, Ardunio. Have I ever actually touched either, no, but I take them into account.

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T3h_Muffinatorzachninme

Reply 12 years ago

Hmmm, I see your point.... I think we're both correct: T3h_Muffinator's definition V Zachninme's definition ;)

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jerry rigger

12 years ago

Then again the term geek was used as an insult and now some computer experts use it as a positive term. I say we take back the word hackers.

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whatsisface

12 years ago

How about Instructablolians?

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royalestelwhatsisface

Reply 12 years ago

I never like that title. Too many syllllables, I think. I prefer Instructablers.

Though I think of myself as a Cheapskate DIYer. That's my primary motivation for making something myself. To save money!

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zachninmeroyalestel

Reply 12 years ago

Instructablolian was first coined by Trebuchet, I believe... in the bacon instructable :D

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Kiteman

12 years ago

In context, I think we're Instructableers (like Musketeers). Off-site, I say Makers (note the capitalisation).

Certainly in the UK, and probably the US (thanks to Hollywood & news media), the term hacker still has too many negative computer-related associations.

McGuyver confuses people - as many people think of it as a movie oddity as an old TV series - and scavenger is an insult in the UK.

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Brennn10

12 years ago

We are DIY-ers, Inventors, Modders, Cooks, Scientists, Engineers, and many many more! What sums it up, like Muf said, we are INNOVATORS!!

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T3h_Muffinator

12 years ago

We're Do-It-Yourselfers, Builders, Engineers, Thinkers, Tinkerers, Scavengers, makers, breakers, musicians, scientists, students, interpreters, providers, users, reporters, advice-givers, enthusiasts, Experts and Novices.

We are THE FUTURE of this world.

We are INNOVATORS

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jerry riggerT3h_Muffinator

Reply 12 years ago

We are THE FUTURE of this world. We are INNOVATORS innovators i like that response. thanks for your reply.

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T3h_Muffinatorjerry rigger

Reply 12 years ago

You're welcome ;) And btw, I don't use that term lightly. It's my most valued word in this world.

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jerry rigger

12 years ago

no its ok i just want a title for all of us.