Curing 2-cycle Engine Problems





Introduction: Curing 2-cycle Engine Problems

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Many 2-cycle engines have problems and are sent to the junk yard before their time. Typical problems include hard starting, rough running, a need to adjust the carburetor during use to keep the engine from stalling, a need to rev the engine to keep it from dying, and not starting at all.

I will assume the user knows to replace the spark plug regularly, to use fresh fuel, and to replace or clean the air filter.

With time and normal vibration, the screws that seal the crankcase from air leaks loosen just a little and air gets into the engine through leaks in the crankcase gaskets.

First check the mounting screws for the carburetor and tighten them. Then go to the screws that hold the cylinder head to the crankcase body and those that cover the end where the crankshaft comes out of the engine. See the yellow circles on this photo of a weed whacker engine. If any of these screws loosen as little as a quarter of a turn air begins to leak into the engine and the fuel/air mixture either is not pushed into the engine on the piston's downstroke or it becomes too lean for the engine to run by pulling in extra air during the piston's upstroke.

After about ten years of use, no amount of tightening on these screws will make a dead engine run. Chances are the gaskets have become hardened beyond their ability to seal the engine. Dismantle the engine completely and install new gaskets. You may not be able to buy the proper gaskets, but you can buy a sheet of gasket material. Use the old gaskets or the engine castings as a pattern to cut new gaskets. Your engine will run like new again.

Step 1: Clean the Exhaust Ports, Too.

Remove the muffler. The exhaust ports are under it. In time carbon residue from the burned oil in the fuel mixture begins to close off the exhaust ports. An engine is an air pump. What cannot get out blocks what needs to get in. Move the piston to the downstroke position (most distant position away from the spark plug) and knock off carbon deposits with a screwdriver. Turn the engine over by hand a few times to blow the carbon granules out of the engine.

Once I used our small 2-cycle garden tiller. After ten minutes the engine siezed and stopped. I had mixed 2-cycle oil with the gasoline, but it was old by the time I was using it. I found advice on the Internet that said to let the engine cool. Then use a wrench with a long handle to slowly turn the engine over. Turn in the same direction, not back and forth. That engine still works very well, although I am sure it suffered a little. Lesson learned: always use freshly mixed fuel.

When a gasoline engine of any kind will sit unused for any length of time, drain the fuel from the tank and run the engine until all remaining fuel in the system has been burned through the engine. This prevents gums and varnishes from closing off small openings.



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    Toro straight Shaft Trimmer, M/N 51932B, S/n 240000000-up Subject: Why am I getting fuel up into the combustion chamber after the trimmer has set horizontally for 5 days.It's as though it's set a hydraulic block. This has been happening for the past two times I run the trimmer. Is this a carburetor problem or a fuel cap problem? Purchased back in 2006.

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    I am not a small engine mechanic by training or by trade. Is the fuel tank elevated above the combustion chamber? I am wondering if the floating needle activated by the metering valve is not sealing and fuel can flow through by gravity. That might mean you need a new metering diaphragm. A plugged vent hole in the fuel tank cap usually stops the flow of fuel because air cannot get back into the tank to replace fuel leaving the tank. I recently read that more and more repair shops do not bother with diagnosing a carburetor problem, but simply replace the carburetor with a new one. If you can match up a replacement carburetor, the orice of a new one is often less than $15 or $20.

    Hi Phil,

    I have an Echo leaf blower. It runs beautifully for about 5 seconds, but then fails to develop full power. I'm new to this problem. Do you have a diagnostic flowchart? Does this sound like it is symptomatic of anything specific? I can think of a few things that might cause it:

    Restricted Air intake (No.)
    Restricted Exhaust (Just realized it from this article, so maybe.)
    Restricted Fuel flow? (I have no idea how I would diagnose this. I need to be able to measure current flow and compare it to projected flow...)

    Thanks for the help,


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    i listed a link to an on-line diagnostic help in my comment to 86suzuki directly below. It is close to s flow chart.

    About a month ago I worked on a chainsaw for a friend. Two repair shops told him he almost certainly needed a new metering diaphragm in his carburetor. After I got into the saw I found the diaphragm was fine. The fuel in his saw's tank was more than a year old. After mixing fresh fuel and replacing the old fuel with it, the saw ran great. I mention that because yu never know exactly what you have until you get into the machine.

    By the way, this chainsaw did not develop full power at first. Then I opened the High circuit mixture screw just a little and it was fine.

    I would check everything in a logical order, and I would make certain there are no air leaks anywhere in the crankcase.

    Hello there!
    I recently purchased a 86 Suzuki lt250r 2 stroke atv now when I bought the atv it ran good but you had keep giving it gas so I research it first thing I see is start it warm it up n adjust fuel/air screw to were it idles just right so that's what I did I noticed after I did that it did start to smoke more white smoke out of the exaust also there is oil coming out of exaust but I heard that was normal for a 2 stroke so anyway went to start it one day after riding it 2 days in a row wouldn't start pulled plug it was bad got new plug started right up yesterday went to start it today won't start pulled the plug black oily / maybe burnt gas smells like fuel more than oil on the end of spark plug. Any advice on what could of caused this and white smoke from exausy would be greatly appreciated all I am completely new to 2 strokes my first one.

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    I am not a small engine mechanic. In this Instructsble I simoly offered some thngs I found that are not always discussed in troubleshooting charts and their cure.

    Here is a link to a troubleshooting chart for 2-cycle engines.

    It is not always a fast prccess, but explore possible solutions to problem descriptions that most closely describe your symptoms. Be sure you are using new clean fuel properly mixed for your engine.

    Hello so my inline trimmer,starts up idles perfect.but when the throttle is pulled it fires an gos even a couple times of pulling the throttle,youll think it's good to go,you go to start using it an then it starts to bogg down I think they call it.
    But only sometimes dies mostly when throttle is fully pulled it pulse's at a low idle,let go an it gos back to the regular idle setting....plz plz help

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    I would not be surprised if you have an air leak in one of the gaskets due to a loose screw. Have you worked through the things in this Instructable?

    i do not inow. Check YouTube for a video on it.

    I have a champion generator. The plug is good. It fires fine and runs until it gets hot then bogs down. Any ideas?

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    Does your carburetor have a float, or is it pulse carburetor using a diaphragm? If it uses a float, the float could have absorbed enough gasoline over the years that it has become hesvy. When the engine warms up the fuel becomes hotter and less buoyant. The float does not shut off the flow of gasoline when it should snd too much enters the engine, causing the engine to stumble. Also check to see if debris is blocking the air flow through the cowling and cooling fins. If these things are not your problem, do an Internet search for hot run problems in a 2-cycle engine.

    I have a 2 cycle back pack leaf blower. It starts up ok when the choke is closed and runs half choke, but when I open it up all the way the engine bogs down and shuts off.

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    The answer to your problem is in the Introduction above. You have an air leak, probably from a poirly seated gasket. Choking the engine reduces the amount of air entering through the carburetor so the mixture is more nearly what it should be due to extra air entering through leaks. Tighten carburetor mounting screws and crankcase screws. Replace gaskets if tightening screws does not solve the problem.

    Chainsaw engine - I pull the starter and only get one pop, like the egine won't turn over freely. Starter rope OK, took off air filter, took off muffler - same. Took out spark plug, turns over fine.

    Any suggestions? Thanks, Mark

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    Did you check through the engine for problems I mentioned, like air leaks? It sounds like the engine is not getting the right fuel at the right mixture in the right amount. Several things could cause that. Those include air not getting back into the gas tank through the vent in the cap, an obstructed fuel filter, a sticking float (although you likely have a pulsed carburetor with no float), proper mixture screw settings, and no air leaks at the carburetor and engine gaskets.

    you posess some excellent knowledge. I am new to this site and I had a question to

    ask of you but I am not sure how that is done on this. If you could indulge me and tell me how to do this I'd appreciate it.

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    Thank you. In my lifetime I have had many problems to solve and little money to pay others to solve them for me. The resolution was to learn what I could and solve them myself. The great thing about Instructables is that we can all share things we have learned or developed ourselves.

    Many people ask questions in the comment section just as you did. Others click on the member name and send a private message from the member profile page.

    If your question is related to a problem with a motor, check the previous comments to see if it has already been discussed. Otherwise, I am not a professional mechanic. I posted something fairly simple about a couple of problems I had that were almost never discussed. In the old days we bought manuals with troubleshooting charts and worked our way through the charts until we solved the problem. That is still a very good approach, except those charts are now on the Internet and accessible free of charge. I linked one in several comments below.



    10 months ago

    My leaf blower works fine when sitting on the ground when I pick it up and move around swinging side to side or up-and-down it bogs down and died any ideas

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    When it is on the ground the engine is probably at idle, but when you pick it up and swing it around, it is probably with more throttle. Is that correct? If so, swinging it around is not the only thing that is happening. The high side of the carburetor may not be properly adjusted, but the low side is. Look for the letters L and H by two mixture adjustment screws. L is usually open 1 1/2 turns from fully seated and H is usually open 1 turn from fully seated. Those are starting points. Fine tune it after that. It may also be that you have an air leak in the fuel system and the engine is experiencing fuel starvation when you apply throttle. Check screws for looseness. Replace the gaskets if more than ten years old.