Sawsmith Radial Arm Saw -- Enlarge Arbor Hole on a Regular Blade




Introduction: Sawsmith Radial Arm Saw -- Enlarge Arbor Hole on a Regular Blade

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A friend has a Sawsmith radial arm saw in good working condition, but getting blades is a problem. A special mount holds the blade on the shaft and uses a 1 1/4 inch hole rather than the standard 5/8 inch hole. The establishment that once sharpened his original blades is no longer in business. I suggested enlarging the 5/8 inch hole in a carbide tipped blade to a 1 1/4 inch hole. The challenge is to be precise and keep the hole centered so the blade does not wobble when finished.

In the photo you see an original blade with 1 1/4 inch hole (satin finish). It is resting on top of a new 9 inch 40 tooth carbide tipped blade with a 5/8 inch arbor hole (chrome finish). You can also see the special mount that requires a 1 1/4 inch arbor hole. The blade fits onto the shoulder on the left piece. The nut on the right screws onto the fitting at the left to lock the blade between the two pieces.

I used a marking pen to outline the size of the new hole on the carbide tipped blade.

Step 1: Mount the Blade for Enlarging the Hole

I do not have machine tools and decided I could do the job with a faceplate on a wood lathe and a Dremel tool. I have a plywood disc mounted on my faceplate.

I glued a scrap piece of fiberboard at the center of the plywood disc and marked the center while the lathe was running. I scribed a 5/8 inch circle on the scrap of fiberboard.

Step 2: Turn the Scrap to Make a Center for Mounting the Saw Blade

I turned the scrap of fiberboard to make a round center 5/8 inch in diameter. The hole in the saw blade will fit snugly over this round center and will center the saw blade on the plywood disc with precision. It is important to stop regularly and check so the fit of the blade on the fiberboard is as exact as possible.

Step 3: Mount the Saw Blade

Here you see the saw blade centered on the fiberboard disc. You can see the outline of the 1 1/4 inch hole marked on the saw blade. I also used three screws to secure the blade to the plywood disc at its outer perimeter. After the center has been cut out with a Dremel tool and a cutting wheel these screws will keep the blade centered and attached to the plywood disc. I used #10 machine screws 1/2 inch long and drilled holes for them in the sawtooth gullets. The holes are just a little undersize so the screwthreads grab in the wood enough to hold the blade well.

Step 4: Begin Cutting Out the Center to Enlarge It

Use a cutting wheel on a Dremel tool while the lathe is spinning at its slowest speed. While doing the actual work I held the Dremel tool with two hands. There is a little slope to the edges of the cut, so cut a slightly smaller circle than necessary to avoid making the hole too large. It can be dressed with a grinding stone on the Dremel tool at the end. See the next step.

When I thought I had cut about half of the way through the blade blank, I turned the blade over and began cutting from the other side. You can do this while the fiberboard center is in place, but after it no longer supports the blade you will not want to disturb the blade's position in any way.

If the blade did somehow move off center while you are working on enlarging the hole, you could always glue a larger piece of fiberboard to the center of the plywood disc and turn a centering piece the exact size of the hole at that point. That process would center the blade exactly again. Then fasten the blade firmly to the plywood disc and remove the fiberboard centering disc so you can continue to grind the size of the hole to the size needed.

I tried to keep the blade from getting hot. It did not seem to be a problem, anyway.

Step 5: Grind to Size and Finish the Arbor Hole

When you have removed the metal ring formed in the previous step and removed the fiberboard centering button, put a grinding stone in your Dremel and gently enlarge the new arbor hole while the lathe is spinning. (I did not take a photo while I was actually enlarging the hole in the blade, but made this illustration in Google Sketch Up later.)

I used a draftsman's divider to compare the size of the shoulder on the Sawsmith blade mount with the size of the hole. When I was sure the size of the new hole was very close to fitting, I removed the blade from the lathe's faceplate. The shoulder of the blade mount almost fit into the hole. I very lightly went around the inside edge of the new hole twice with the grinding stone while holding the Dremel by hand. That was just enough so that the Sawsmith blade mount fit into the hole easily, but without any looseness.

Step 6: The Final Product

Here you see the final product with the Sawsmith fitting on the new blade with the newly enlarged hole.

The blade runs true and on center without any vibration. This blade will make my friend's Sawsmith radial arm saw more useful for many, many more years.

Update--May 16, 2009: My friend was laid up with a badly broken leg at the time I fitted this blade for his saw. He has also been traveling since his leg is out of its cast. He just got his first opportunity to use the saw with the new blade. He cut some birch veneer plywood for a project. He said the blade works perfectly.

Update--January 26, 2010: I recently considered buying a corded 5 1/2 inch Skil circular saw (sidewinder with left-hand blade).  That saw uses a 1/2 inch arbor.  Blades are not widely available.  People are usually told to buy 5 1/2 inch blades with 5/8 inch arbor holes and add to that a special bushing to make up the difference.  But, 5 1/2 inch blades for battery powered circular saws are widely available.  The only problem is that blades for these battery saws use a 10 mm arbor (2.7 mm smaller than 1/2 inch).  The process described in this Instructable could be used to enlarge a 10 mm hole to 1/2 inch, but not step 4.  Make a wooden center 10 mm in diameter.  Mount the blade to a faceplate as in step 3.   Remove the wooden center and grind the hole size to 1/2 inch.



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    This is a bit off topic, but new 1 1/4 arbor blades are available from Shopsmith and from Forrest but I didn't confirm the latter. I just wanted to mention this in case there are folks out there who need a new blade but don't want to modify one.

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    Your comment is not really off-topic, at all. After I adapted the blade for my friend I found the Shopsmith blades with 1 1/4 inch arbor holes. My friend has always used a 9 inch blade and wanted that size. The Shopsmith blades are 10 inches in size.

    I checked the Forrest Blades site, but could not find blades for a 1 1/4 inch arbor.

    Thank you for looking and for commenting.

    Did you try using a hole saw in the tail stock? It seems like it would be a little easier than the dremel.

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    The primary concern with the task of enlarging the arbor hole is to maintain a hole that is absolutely on center. My lathe is not capable of mounting a hole saw in the tailstock, but if it were, there is too much possibility some chattering would cause the expanded hole to be a tiny bit off center. I read stories of people who tried to expand the arbor hole in a saw blade with some type of drilling operation, but the final result was not entirely centered. They had to deal with the fact they had ruined a good blade, or manage with a blade that ran with a lot of vibration. Using the Dremel was easy enough and worked very well.

    Check with the SawSmith users group on Yahoo. They have a file copy of the drawing needed to reproduce the 5/8 inch acme thread LH and RH nuts which came with the saw originally and allowed the use of 5/8 inch bore blades. I quit using the original 1-1/4 bore blade when the saw was new and never looked back. I believe one of the group members had found a machinist who would make the nuts for $25 a copy.

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    That is another option. Thank you for the information. After I published this Instructable I poked around the Internet and found several posts on various forums by people new to a Sawsmith who were wondering what to do about blades. There will come a time when original owners of the Sawsmiths will pass them to new users. It will be good for those new users to have several options for the blade problem. So far, Google turns up my solution pretty readily and it is easy for a home user to make work.

    You are very smart, Phil. You make me remember an uncle that I had, who was very intelligent and able to fix almost everything that fell into their hands.

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    Thank you, Rimar. You are very kind. I am thankful to be able to do things like these. They seem simple and easy to me. But, other people have talents for other things I have never been able to do. Those things seem simple and easy to them.

    Thanks. I am glad all of the steps were clear for you. Later I always think I should have added or changed this or that. I did another Instructable a few weeks ago on restoring accurate settings to a Sears radial arm saw after the indexing holes have worn into egg-shaped patterns due to wear. It is another one of those that extends the original useful life of a good tool.