The Making of the Prototype Tesla CD Turbine

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About: I am re-inventing myself as an inventor, after too many years as a mechanic! I enjoy learning from Tesla disc Turbines, magnetic motors, and Crystal Quantum Radios. "All children are artists. The problem...

Intro: The Making of the Prototype Tesla CD Turbine

This video shows the initial thought process and first attempt to assemble a working prototype Tesla CD Turbine.

The thought process starts with... if McGyver met Tesla, and they wanted to do something cool to recycle CD's, and save the planet besides, what would happen?

A neodymium magnet ring comes into the picture, and a prototype Tesla CD Turbine is constructed.

You can order the BEST neodymium super-magnets from K&J Magnetics here.

For a scary movie of this initial first prototype running, click here.

For a more sane movie of the latest docile Kitchen Edition of this machine, used in my SinkScience movie series, click here.

For latest building techniques for the CD Turbine, see my new instructable

See all my science Sci-Art videos at: http://ca.youtube.com/MrfixitRick

And, finally, The Tesla CD Turbine web site: http://www.cdturbine.com

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    rimar2000

    10 years ago on Introduction

    Well, if the idea behind omitting the written explanations was to remove we not anglo-speakers, has turned out of wonders. I can read the English acceptably, but I don't understand anything when I listen it. Especially if the pronunciation is not very clear.

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    nnaji_ihmrfixitrick

    Reply 4 years ago on Introduction

    I admire this work and i feel you can be of great help to me. Im working on a tesla turbine project and i had a few questions which could aid me if answered. Could you work backwards to create a prototype? Like starting from the power? What do you recommend as a choice of power rate for a small scale tesla turbine prototype like yours?

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    mrfixitricknnaji_ih

    Reply 4 years ago on Introduction

    The power range for a small Tesla turbine is quite varied, depending on the rpm potential, the pressure and volume of fluids going into it, and the number of discs. Generally, a 5 or 6 inch size Tesla turbine might range from 1 watt (like mine on faucet water pressure), up to 50 kilowatts like Tesla's first small turbines that ran on steam.

    More pressure = more performance = more money required for exotic materials and processes

    There is a saying in racing, "Speed costs...how fast do you want to go?"

    The power rating of a Tesla Turbine will be directly related to the nozzle inlet pressure, specifically the speed and mass of the particles. The power increases with the square of the speed of the discs, and directly with the number of discs. (Double the speed, 4X the power. Double the discs, 2X the power.)

    The turbine nozzle will be designed to be small enough to give a maximum speed to the incoming particles, but large enough (or use many nozzles) to pass enough volume of material.

    Starting from the power, you need to decide what type of power. The Tesla Turbine can run on all these materials and more: steam, compressed air, gasoline, propane, water, helium, straw and hay, etc.

    Will the turbine run on compressed fluids, or by burning a combustable?

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    uguymrfixitrick

    Reply 10 years ago on Introduction

    But, you felt compelled to produce this practically unintelligible video instructuble! So much for progress.

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    mrfixitrickuguy

    Reply 10 years ago on Introduction

    I made this video before my 3 instructables. It shows the initial thought process for inventing and prototyping. Guess I'm an idiot for thinking it would be appreciated. I guess intelligence isn't your specialty, either.( "instructuble" is spelled "instructable".)

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    rimar2000mrfixitrick

    Reply 10 years ago on Introduction

    Your work IS appreciated, mrfixits.

    I propose you "the second mile": to write the speaks of the video as text. I like your work.

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    rimar2000mrfixitrick

    Reply 10 years ago on Introduction

    Thanks, I have seen them already, and they seemed me very interesting. My observation about the video was more by the purpose to bother than because I fell it thus. I am a little joker, but not always that is done evident. Besides, I understand that this page is in English language and I have to accommodate me it, in the measure of my possibilities.

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    jjadam

    7 years ago on Introduction

    hey man, i reelly like this thing, im gonna attempt to make a hydrogenerator using the radiator fan engine, but i dont quite get how u made the inlet pipe.
    i understand that water flows throught the cs box making them turn but what does all that complexity about the pipe connecting the tap to the box have to do with anything?
    if it's crucial i hope u can elaborate for me on what to do about it :)
    also, does it matter if the magnets inside the cd box are like triple the size of the ones u used? cuz i cudnt find ones that small...
    thanks man ur awesome :D

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    mrfixitrickjjadam

    Reply 7 years ago on Introduction

    The inlet nozzle is one of the most critical items of the Tesla Turbine. This is because the nozzle shape determines the fluid velocity, and  the fluid velocity SQUARED determines the power of the turbine.

    So, fluid velocity is very important. The fluid velocity can be increased (up to a point) by using a smaller hole for the inlet nozzle. The exact nozzle size is determined by the number of discs used, the pressure and volume of fluid available, and whether air or water is the fluid. So, for example, a 1/16 inch to 1/8 inch nozzle hole size might be appropriate, but a 1/2 inch hole size probably won't work at all.

    The magnets can be bigger, but quality usually beats quantity. Big magnets means more internal resistance inside the turbine, which might result in less power. I use the N50 grade neodymium magnets which are very powerful. The lighter the magnets, the better for turbine performance, but they aldso must be strong enough to work as a magnetic coupling for the device you are connecting to such as the generator.

    Good luck with your turbine and let me know if you have other questions!




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    jjadammrfixitrick

    Reply 7 years ago on Introduction

    ok cool, so i just have to increase the velocioty of the water going into the cd box by buying a 1/16 inch nozzle to connect at the end of the pipe.
    but what is the "Orbit Watermaster Walkway Tunnel Kit and Super Sweeper Extension Nozzle...available at Home Depot. Fits 3/4 or 1 inch PVC" for? and can u give me some kind of a more abundant substitute with simpler wording? (i live in lebanon)
    does the number of CDs make a difference?
    sory for any inconvenience :)

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    mrfixitrickjjadam

    Reply 7 years ago on Introduction

    The "Orbit Watermaster" is simply a tapered plastic nozzle that goes on a pipe. It's used to flush out dirt or move gravel.

    As long as your pipe ends with a 1/16 inch hole size directed at the discs, that is the most important thing. It doesn't have to be a tapered nozzle, but tapered is more efficient. Drilling a 1/16 inch hole into a pipe plug at the end of the pipe, would work too. Or you can glue or screw smaller pipes together to reduce them to 1/16 inch opening.

    Increasing the number of CD's will increase power up to a point. You need to have a few discs (say, 5) as a minimum.

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    mrfixitrickjjadam

    Reply 7 years ago on Introduction

    Any problems can be solved through communication ;)
    Have an enjoyable learning experience!

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    alvin9861

    8 years ago on Introduction

    I haven't yet got around to doing photo yet. I had a machinist make an adapter for the turbo shaft. The 2 end housing have been removed. I am building new housings to contain the discs. One that sustain disc distuction if it happens. I'm using 8 in dia discs.

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    alvin9861

    8 years ago on Introduction

    I have started redesigning a auto turbocharger into a tesla turbine. Because a turbo can run up 60k rpms, it is designed to handle it. I had to build a larger chamber for turbine with a few mods. So far it has worked out good.

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    mrfixitrickalvin9861

    Reply 8 years ago on Introduction

    Tell me more about your project turbine. Did you add discs to the turbo shaft? Lots of turbos spin over 100,000 rpm and some of them go up to 220,000 rpms! Any pictures you could post?

    Don't let the negative creeps grind you down mrfixits - your instructables are truly awesome and inspiring! Please keep them coming!

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    hi, i new to this and still dont quite understand it fully but i want to ask you, what is the point of the magnets and what do they do? also if this was to run on air pressure, the power consumed to compress the air and to run the turbine would be greater than the power output from an alternator attatched to the shaft? is that true? Also, if that is the case, then what is the actual benefit of this turbine? Hope you can help me understand more