DIY electric drum set

Here's an easy way to make an electric drum set for about 150 dollars that sounds and works great. I am going to post instructions, but this should tell you enough. Get two rock band drum sets. Open the drums. They are easy to open. Just put your hand in the little gap about halfway through the drums and carefully lift up. In the center, there would be a circular area. Keep those clean. Buy nine of those tiny recorders that you press a button to play. They are about 4 dollars each. Record a tom 1 sound, a tom 2 sound, a tom 3 sound, a bass sound, a snare sound, a crash cymbal 1 sound, a crash cymbal 2 sound, a boom cymbal sound, and a hi-hat cymbal sound. Glue each drum sound inside the center of each drum. Glue the bass one underneath the bass pedal. Turn all the volumes on high. IT WORKS! All for pretty cheap.

Posted by PineapplebobTheGreat 10 years ago


How to put LED lights into a drum kit and on cymbal stands.

My boyfriend is wanting to put blue LEDS into his drums and under his cymbals. For right now I think he just wants them on steady. But eventually I'm thinking he'll want the ones inside his drums to come on when he hits the drum, so a way to trigger those to do that would also be good. Right now I was looking at the single light LEDs that they actually have to put on your car, these of course run off your car battery, so would also need a way to convert them to run on regular AC from house outlet. Any advice on this would be great. Any ideas and tips would be welcome. I'm a power novice so any detailed information ie(brands, stores, etc) would be welcome also. I'm so glad I found this forum. If anyone is interested you can find my guys band on MySpace, their name is Desidero. Thanks for any help in advance.

Posted by Swordman5000sWoman 10 years ago


LED Stips HELP!

Hello all! I am in need of help! I am putting LED strips in a drum set. I've been brain storming but can't seem to come up with a solution. Here's what we have: 4 Drums Here's what we need: A battery powered, remote controlled LED strip in each drum. I can not put holes in the drums to run cables of any kind. These strips need to be solo-powered but also have to be able to be turned on and off without touching them as the drums have heads on the top and bottom. There will be no way to access the strips. I was thinking of some sort of magnetic switching device, but i don't know if this exists.... Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Posted by MatBishop 5 years ago


iPod Touch Rail Mount

Hey!I got a Roland V-Drum kit last year and there's an aux input for mp3 players. I use it with my iPod touch to play along with songs.My problem is, I rest my iPod on the control module and not only does this then block half the controls, but it sometimes falls off with furious drumming.So I though to myself, I wonder if I can buy a rail mount so I can have a cradel attatched to the stand. I knew you could buy motorbike iPod cradels, but all of these weren't wide enough to accomidate the 35-40mm diameter of the stand. So I thought about making one.But I can't come up with any ideas.The stand I have is this:http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/BATTERIE+DRUM+ROLAND+TD+9+KX.JPG(not the drums though... I wish)The rail mounts I have been looking at are like this:http://www.mountguys.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RAP-274-AP4&click;=21Any ideas guys?

Posted by Tibboh 9 years ago


Testing out my friends BEATBOXING website!!!

Can you go to my friends new website and check it out, the web address is www.choiboi.webs.com can you maybe just look around and see what needs to be improved, he's going to post pictures, videos and songs, it's mainly a beatboxing and drumming website.

Posted by flashanimator 8 years ago


Using a Piezo to trigger lights?

Hey all. What I am trying to construct is some kind of circuit that will trigger an LED when a piezo is tapped. The reason I would like to create this apparatus is to trigger lights using acoustic drums for my band's live show. I would like a light to go off every time a drum is hit and I figured that using a piezo would be the best way to do this. Any help that anyone could offer in this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again. P.S. I found this diagram for a piezo switch but I am unsure as how i could use this or even how to make it in the first place. I am very new to electronics.

Posted by cimz 7 years ago


Drum instructables

Why are like 90% of the instructables on this group drum instructables? Does nobody play any other instrument?

Posted by downhilldman 9 years ago


drumming artists

Who is the best pro drummer i vote Travis Barker

Posted by ohiostbuckboy 9 years ago


Awesome drum bot

Anyone know how to make it?*Cough cough*

Posted by LinuxH4x0r 10 years ago


Blank Drum Tab Sheet

This is a file to help write drum tab music. All you have to do is just edit it then post it here. So get posting!

Posted by knex maddo 9 years ago


Home recording and playback studio

So ive played guitar/bass in the past but have recently switched to drums the past year. I would like to put together a recording system that would allow me to not only record guitar/bass onto my computer but also allow me to output those recordings to their respective amps simultaneously for playback. I have a buddy that plays guitar so would like to jam out with a bass line as well or when he's not around I can jam out to both. Any ideas of equipment /software that might be needed ?

Posted by Red12345 2 years ago


Light Up Snare

Would it be possible to assemble a circuit using a piezo sensor and a string of LEDs so that a snare lights up when hit? My knowledge of stuff like this is extremely limited (read: non-existent) so any help would be appreciated! Also, if my idea is useless, it'd be great if other ways of doing this were discussed. Thanks!

Posted by clairey 10 years ago


Where can I buy myself a steel drum

I'm looking for a steel barrel/drum thing for a project I plan on doing. It's basically a pool heater, using an old car radiator and steel drum. But anyways... I have no idea where I can find one, where carries them or anything of the sort. I'm in central mass if that helps.

Posted by cvxdes 10 years ago


Death metal Anyone? Metal?

So, i happen to listen to alot of metal and death metal. Anyone here appreciate the genre?

Posted by cry_wolf 10 years ago


Converting a 55 gallons (200 liters) drum into an oven and grill

On the Chilean TV show Hagalo Usted Mismo (Do it yourself) it is showed how to make a combination of an oven and a grill using a 55 gallon (200 liters) steel drum. Although it is in Spanish, the video shows how to make it step by step. An important note mentioned in the video is that the drum must previously stored non toxic products.

Posted by blkhawk 5 years ago


Contemporary Wire Frame Lamp Shades (Drum Shaped) and Lamp Bases?

Hello!I have looked all over the internet and cannot find:* Drum Shaped Wire Frame Lamp Shadesor * Contemporary Lamp BasesDoes anyone have any suggestions?Thank you!Jeff

Posted by design101 9 years ago


K'nex Concepts 13

Spiral Drum Mag: Drum mag with two rods that rotate in one direction to push rounds to the outside of the spiral and into a firing chamber. -by Oblivitus Layered Drum Mag: A drum mag with multiple layers that fill the entire space within the drum which both rotates with an elastic and is pushed up by an elastic. When the outer layer is emptied of rounds, the drum moves up and the next layer begins emptying. This layer changing would be achieved by making the rounds press upward against a flat surface on the gun. -by Oblivitus These concepts have also been posted to: https://www.instructables.com/id/Knex-Concepts/

Posted by Oblivitus 6 years ago


Cleaning a 55 Gallon Drum?

Hey, I'm looking to build a rain barrel, and found out that my local car wash is willing to give me a 55 gallon drum. The thing is, I don't know what kind of soap they use (I would have asked, but the guy was impossible to understand) or how to clean it out. If anybody has experience in this, that'd be great!

Posted by Weissensteinburg 9 years ago


Generic Drums for PS3 with Rock Band 3!!!

Hello my name is Charlie, I write from Peru and have some doubts about Drums for PS3 with Rock Band 3. Buy generic drums locally and is identical to the product of China (http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/iEMfIyBYj?af=130194941), turn on the PS3 with Rock Band 3, connect the wireless receiver and select PS / RB and not working. Change the selector to PS / GHWT and pedal not working. Then again turn on the PS3 with GuitarHero WorldTour, I connect the wireless receiver and select PS / GHWT and operating normally. My question ?: What is the way to operate the drums on Rock Band 3 for PS3 and then use the PRO mode? And if you need to open and weld or add a card, I could indicate how. I have not found something similar in the entire site and then not want to lose my investment. Thanks for the suggestions and I hope you can help me. Cheers, Charlie,

Posted by JohanR6 2 years ago


Custom drums can be made for you

If anybody is interested, i now have a good source of maple where i can make atabaques (and presumably congas and bongos) to your specific dimensions for quite cheap. i was just doing a writeup for a group in my area for an atabaque at 32" tall with an 11" head, 14" bulge, and 4.5" foot in half inch maple for about $200. now, other woods can be used (and the type of wood dictates if the price goes up or down). if you have an idea about the sizes you would want, just throw them my way and i can get you prices of raw materials and labor. i can also burn patterns into them if you would wish. Happy drumming Chapa-de-frente

Posted by chapa-de-frente 7 years ago


Awesome display of military precision and percussion.

Awesome display of military precision, percussion and pyrotechnics at the 2009 Edinburgh Military Tattoo.

Posted by blkhawk 6 years ago


A good use for old glass jars aka an experiment in drum modeling

This evening, I decided to try something out. As a bassist, it is key that I keep time, and play along with the drum beat. But metronomes are boring, and drum machines are too expensive. So, I set out to discover another way to capture drums beats. At the same time, I was looking at a few empty glass jars I had sitting around. An idea struck me - I would use the jars for my drum modeling machine! But how would I do this? It turns out, it is very simple. I won't give away the secret here, but I will hopefully post an instructable sometime this week that tells you how. I will link the instructable when it is up.

Posted by sugg22 10 years ago


Ayre and Dance. The most awesome orchestra song ever!

       My school band is playing Ayre and Dance, and I think it is awesome!  I really like the beggining. It really brings out thoughts of ancient times. Its also kind of that awesome creepy.  The mood change is pretty weird and awesome too.

Posted by eulaliaaaa! 8 years ago


Homemade hang drum?

I can't get empty used propane tank. Hardly and rarely someone uses it in estonia. So I was thinking to use pot from homedepot.  I have no idea what else I can use. Any ideas someone?  I think that right types of metal gives right sound.  

Posted by DeathSuperMario 4 years ago


Rock Band

A couple weeks ago my oldest brother that doesn't live at my house anymore brought over Rock Band and I loved the drums they are the best instrument in the game so i was wondering what you're favorite instrument is.

Posted by Vynash 10 years ago


Guitar Hero Drums Mod for PS2?

I have Guitar Hero III for playstation2 and I don't want to get rock band. I know the Rock Band drums don't work for guitar hero. Maybe i could take apart a Guitar hero controller and make it into a drum set. I want it to be able to wammy and use star power (maybe pedals or something). and i want to be able to press 3 buttons at the same time (another pedal?). I also want to be able to hit it repeatedly to hold a note (like in rock band). I guess it should "strum" automatically when i hit a note. I don't have any idea on how to make it, but i know it's possible, and that there is a simple way of doing it. it doesn't have to look nice. it should just work. Anyway, I hope someone could help me out and make an Instructable or a youtube video or something. I'm sure many others would love to do it. thanks, schetleft

Posted by schetleft 10 years ago


DIY Drum Pad that Controls MIDI Device (Korg nanopad)

Hi all, I'm working on a project which involves a pipe like structure with something like a DIY electronic drum pad on top. (like a stand alone drum) When the pad is hit it, triggers a key on a MIDI device such as the KORG nanopad http://korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=415 under the actual drum itself. This nanopad acts as a remote control for tracks created using music software on my laptop. So when the pad is hit, it starts a track. Problem is, I have no idea how I will make the connection from the pad to the MIDI device. I was thinking about using a Peizo signal but am lost as to how to wire it up or if thats possible. If I use this instructable https://www.instructables.com/id/Electronic-Drum-Pad/ should I be able to simply solder the Peizo wires into the nano keypad relatively easily?  Long shot but if anyone has even the slightest idea what I'm getting at here, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Posted by Bass Cadet 8 years ago


1920's Themed Custom Drum Kit Build

Hi There everyone, i'm new to instructables so i thought id post a threat here first, before maybe making a main article, shown here is a link to one of my projects, an entirely custom built 1920's inspired drum kit, all parts made by me other than the skins ofcouse ;) http://manbenchindustries.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/lessons-learned-in-drum-making-p1.html The link is to an entry on mine and a friends blog where theres a few more details of the project as well as lots of other things we get up to so check it out if your interested! Feel free to comment critique and ask any questions, and if you like it or anything else maybe i'll write up a proper article on it, Cheers, Tom In sunny Bristol in the UK ;)

Posted by stevenpossett 5 years ago


Homemade Musical Robots

Frits Lyneborg, builds and designs all sorts of robots, his most notable robot is called "Yellow Drum Machine" which "sees" with robotic eyes, and plays music and assembles rhythms in miscellaneous things, here is a video of the Yellow Drum Machine: The Yellow Drum Machine, taps its "feelers" and records the sound, then re-plays it, and adds to it to make more of a song.here is his YouTube page:http://www.youtube.com/user/fritslyneborgand here is his website:http://letsmakerobots.com/

Posted by bumpus 10 years ago


Building a FireTub - A charcoal burner from an old washing machine drum

About two years ago a friend of mine told me that you could use washing machine drums as charcoal burners. Generally they would be placed on bricks, filled with charcoal and because of the holes in the sides they put out a lot of heat. It just so happened that we had recently had a good marquee blow down and I'd kept the tubing because I'm a bit of a womble (it drives my wife nuts). Anyway I set about building a tripod frame to hold the washing machine drum off the ground. Step by step construction instructions can be found here..: http://theaccidentalartisan.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/buiilding-a-firetub/

Posted by powkesmore 7 years ago


Printing/Painting onto a cylinder (specifically, a drum stick)

Sooooo... I'm planning on making a very nice pretty etc etc pair of drum sticks for a friend who is a serious drummer and among other things I'd like to do to make them individual is getting a design on them - be this by staining, printing, stamping or whatever (I'm not sure how it's done professionally and I feel paint would quickly come off... :/) So, dearest Instructablers, does anyone have any guidance as to how to do this? Cheers!

Posted by macmaniac 8 years ago


MIDI Interface

Does any one know of a way to make a usb to midi out .its like this computer >> Usb to Midi >> and to a device which can accept midi like the Arduino MIDI Drum. i want to make a simple circuit that i can build that is easy to make and requires minimal partshere is the link to the Arduino MIDI Drum

Posted by chrischavez 9 years ago


Are you good at Rockband? Are you new? Lot's of Information about Rockband, I will anwser ANY questions... I will not know EVERYTHING

So, I'm like 500th something in the world in RockBand. To Prove it, here are all the songs I've gold starred. The Lines mean that I didn't gold star the next song(s). Like for example, I gold starred the first 17 songs. I will list 17 songs, then make a line. The songs with the "*" next to them are Fc's only a few :(Say it Ain't so By WeezerCreep By RadioheadI think I'm paranoid By GarbageWanted Dead or Alive By Bon JoviIn Bloom By NirvanaGimme Shelter By The Rolling StonesWave of Mutilation By (the most overrated band ever)The PixiesCelebrity Skin By HoleMississippi Queen By MountainHere it Goes Again By OK GoSuffragette City By David BowieMain Offender By the HivesMaps By the Yeah Yeah YeahsReptillia By The StrokesEpic By Faith No MoreBlitzkreig Bop By The RamonesShould I Stay or should I go? By The ClashBlack Hole Sun By SoundgardenThe Hand that Feeds By Nine Inch NailsSabotage By The Beastie BoysParanoid By Black SabbathDani California By The Red Hot Chili PeppersAre you gonna be my girl? By JetWelcome Home By Coheed & CambriaVasoline By The Stone Temple PilotsWhen You Were Young By The KillersGreen Grass and High Tides By The OutlawsEnter Sandman By MetallicaBONUS SONGSPleasure (Pleasure) By Bang CamaroBrain Power By FreezepopDownloaded SongsCharlene (I'm Right Behind You)* By Stephen and the ColbertsDirty Little Secret By The All American RejectsFranklin's Tower By The Grateful DeadHysteria By MuseI Need a Miracle By The Grateful DeadInterstate Love Song By The Stone Temple PilotsLimelight By RushMoving to Seattle By The MaterialNatural Disaster By The Plain White T'sPain and Pleasure* By Judas PriestPromised Land By VesuviusShe's a Handsome Woman By Panic! At the DiscoTen Speed (Of God's Blood and Burial)* By Coheed & CambriaYou've Got Another Thing Comin'* By Judas PriestIf you Gold Starred more than me (There's gotta be someone on Instructables), then make a forum topic, and gimme a link. Or you can just make a comment. To Make the lines used dashes (-).To make small text make 2 commas (,) the text, then 2 commas again.==Some terms that might be helpful:==-------------------------------------------------If someone uses the term "FC" it means "Full Combo". Full Combo means that you didn't overhit (look below), and you didn't miss any notes.If someone uses the term "Overhit", it means that you hit the drum where you don't have to.A drum fill, is something that looks like long notes that go across the "guitar neck". It is also known as the "Overdrive Activator". When you see the long notes, you have to hit at least three notes, and hit the green (or red if you play on lefty) pad when you see the green "bulb" pop up at the end of the notes.Overdrive is something that makes your multiplier go higher (and count by two). For example, if you have a multiplier of 4 (the highest) and you go into Overdrive, your multiplier goes up to 8. 1 makes 2, 2 makes 4, and 3 makes 6.Your multiplier multiplies the number of points. If you have a multiplier of 1, then each note will be 25. 2, is 50 each note, 3 is 75 each note, and 4 is 100 points.Again, if you have any questions, just ask.Some things you might

Posted by Flumpkins 9 years ago


How to clean Cymbals with acidic fingerprints that wont come off with water.

I acquired a nice set of drums from my nephew.  Dixon 5 drums and 5 cymbals.  2 cymbals are Sabian B8 with fingerprints all over. Some cleaned up with water but most are "etched?" in. What is the best cleaner to use without damage.

Posted by AntRRmam 5 years ago


LED drumsticks?

Just throwing the idea out there. You'd probably stick the LED in the knobbly bit of the drumstick and then learn to drum in the dark.

Posted by megziewoodles 11 years ago


What to buy to make a LED drumset?

I'm wanting to put some lights into my Drum Set, and I really have no idea what to buy. I can solder, but would prefer not to. I would prefer to spend less than 50$ (US) for lights and power supply's. I don't mind ordering online as long as I can pay with Paypal, but if I did I wouldn't want to spend more than 70$ including shipping to Minneapolis. ( I would like a choice of colours) (coloUrs) What do  I buy?

Posted by Bartboy 8 years ago


Cone Clutch

Im working on a clutch to put on my chopper im powering it with a 3 horse power snowblower two stroke and plan on using a quassi bike snowblower clutch so the gears are staggered in a traditional bike shape and the belt is tightened and ingaged by a drum putting pressure on it my clutch "cogs" look like this (i'll get some pics up if i can figure out how) !--- ! \ ! --- ! \ ! ---! ! ---! ! / ! ---/ ! / !--- it gets smaller to larger in a cone shape with steps cut into it they will be connected to the wheel and to the engine with the pressure drum and a derailer in the middle the pressure drum keeps the slack out of the belt and the derailer will pull the belt up and down the "cog" gotta go will post more later.

Posted by buildingteen 11 years ago


I need help with Guitar Hero World Tour!!!!

Today I got Rb2 and GH4 For Xmas. I heard the rockband drums work with gh4. So, today I tried GH4. The orange note was still there. If you don't get it, then what I am trying to say is that GH4 Drums have 6 different notes: Red,Yellow,Green,Blue,Orange, and Purple (Bass). Rockband has 4: Red, Yellow, Blue, Green, Orange (Bass). Usually when you play the RB drums on Gh, you see the original 4 colors (You cant see bass till you hit it). But I saw 5. I couldn't hit the extra note because I didn't have an orange pad... PLEASE HELP

Posted by Flumpkins 9 years ago


Oil Central Heating - minimum amount Kerosene needed for testing it works

We have moved into a house with oil central heating that has not been used in at least 5 years and with no oil (Kerosene)at all in the tank.  We want to test if the boiler/oil burner actually works. Therefore we do not want to buy gallons of oil at the moment as we just want to test it to see if it works at all and then we can buy oil in the winter to save the expense now as it will not be in use now. A lot of companies have minimum orders however we were told we would just need a drum of oil in this instance to test it  - we are not sure if that would be enough. Is a drum of Kerosene enough? Where would we buy a drum of Keronsene? 

Posted by Synergy_12 3 years ago


Please help my YouTube channel!!!

WARNING : This thread could be considered "spam". I am trying to get more attention towards my videos. I'm back from a short break! Okay, so here's the thing, I've tried everything to try to get more video views. Facebook, spamming subscibers and random people on Youtube. I was hoping you guys could help me! And just so you know, this isn't the only reason I'm coming back First video of my with my new drumset:   This is my BEST drum solo video (with my old set) Enter Sandman drum cover with my old Set Obscure Alliance Drum Cover with my old set.

Posted by Flumpkins 8 years ago


I want to make a drum machine or a MIDI interface.

I want some sort electronic device to control sound. example: i download a few sound clips upload the in to the device then i can play it with the device. I know such device exist all ready(MIDI) but I'm not the most wealthy person (I'm a low budget kid of guy). And I'm looking to make it instead of buying it. My main concern is the storing and programing the sound to a button.

Posted by ficofeto 11 years ago


RE: One Person Submersible From Plastic Drum

The following is a quote of the post I've just left on the aforementioned Instructable (https://www.instructables.com/id/One-Person-Submersible-from-a-Plastic-Drum/?&sort;=NEWEST&limit;=40&offset;=40).  I would really appreciate the removal of this instructable. "Hi. I am a certified OSHA and CSAO commercial diver air dive supervisor, level 1, and qualified Master Scuba Diver Trainer with the Professional Association of Diving Instructors. This is a very dangerous idea. You might not die, but someone else might/will/and has. Just because there is a disclaimer there, you and Instructables will be subject to litigation. There is a reason that people need a certification to operate this type of life support equipment. http://scuba-doc.com/ageprbs.html "Because of Boyle's law, maximal changes in volume occur in the 4 feet (1.22 m.) closest to the surface and the diver sustains a tear in the pulmonary parenchyma with the escape of air into the pulmonary venous outflow." I can quote other resources, such as the US Navy Dive Manual and the DCIM manual, but it's Boyle's Law, not Boyle's "kinda' might happen. I don't know". "

Posted by graeme.t.cooper 7 years ago


greatest band/guitarist/bassist/drummers

Once again out of curiosity, what are everyone's opinions on the topic of who/what is/are greatest bands and/or musicians?

Posted by wingman246 10 years ago


Piezo Triggered LED lighting with a twist!

Hi There are already a few threads and topics on this site explaining how to hook up a piezo triggered light strip, however I'm looking to build a custom drum kit with particular lighting system and i can't find the info I need to build it. Inside the drums I want a constant, static colour of my choice on the led strip (e.g. blue) and then the piezo trigger triggers that LED strip to to different colour (e.g. red) for a quick flash and then back to blue. I would also like to have control over which colour combinations I use, so if i want yellow drums with green flashes, i would hopefully be able change that with a remote. Is there a circuit or a mod of an existing circuit that will handle my needs? Cheers, Owen

Posted by oesheppard 3 years ago


Tangible Sequencer Interfaces - Bubblegum and Ball Bearing Drum Machines

Bubblegum SequencerThe Bubblegum Sequencer is a physical step sequencer that lets you create drumloops by arranging colored balls on a tangible surface. It generates MIDI events and can be used as an input device to control audio hardware and software. Finally, people can't claim anymore that electronic music isn't handmade.Also, check out the similar BeatBearing. The BeatBearing project is a simple Tangible User Interface that uses ball bearings to program a sequencer.

Posted by ewilhelm 10 years ago


The winner

Thank you all for participating in the group. I am pleased to announce the winner is... Drum Roll . . . . . . . Ipod Killer and his sniper rifle! Congrats to you. Sorry for taking so long... Im busy. Thanks again for everybody participating!

Posted by Moloro0 11 years ago


Another car that runs on fresh air.

Here's another chap with a car that runs on compressed air.He's got more potential than past attempts, though - F1 engineering background, large backer, neat trick for extending range.The video and Previous BBC "airing"Canadian news articleCritical article from Oil Drum (Australian energy site)Oil Drum: part 2Air Car siteEDIT (MORE REFERENCES)Another BBC articleMDI Engineering site (they make the engines)Tata Motors (who plan to build the car)

Posted by Kiteman 10 years ago


Have a Great idea for the next Guitar Hero

I was Thinking it would be cool to play all metallica's songs With both drums&Guitar!! i can picture it and i want to play it Thanx for listening. Jessika

Posted by plamate 10 years ago


Have you seen this? LEC lights

Crazy lightsHave you seen this before?the foofighters drummer had it wrapped around his drums at some show, i forgotlooks pretty sweet

Posted by ledzep567 10 years ago


cheapest and lightest boat possible

I want to know how to make a lighweight weight potable boat thats cheap, and also small yousing materials like plastic 44 gallon drum maybe. can you help me?

Posted by JACKBARRY 5 years ago