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Automated Single-Picture conversion for Anaglyph (3D glasses) except "Lasso3D"? Answered

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_image

I found
Bas-Relief Demo ( http://www.3dphotopro.com/software.html )
which is great and allows most things i need in the demo version :-)
It just needs a depth map, which I draw manualy by setting the brush transparency for different layer or drawing closer areas brighter.
Still, I am open to any other program suggestions! :-)

I am currently trying to convert a few photos, just so the people in front look further infront. I know how to do it manualy (cut objects infront, smudge hole, paste a bit further to the right, repeat layer for layer..., then i join the original image and the new one with AnaBuilder / AnnaBuilder / Zanag Z-Anaglyph) but I am looking for a program to convert the pictures, since its just taking long for not-so-creative work.

Exept a bunch of totaly automated 2d-to-3d programs that work only on a limited number of images but are great to test anyway
(xpounded.com Auto3D, Neurosys Anaglyph)
I only found xpounded.com / Lasso3D (By Robert Spoons) where you roughly select the objects infront and the software does the rest.
Its working good, but only for screen-sized resolutions, since no scrolling is possible :-( Thats a downside, since I want to print the images with a higher resolution.

Does anyone know another (freeware?) tool or a simpler method in psp or gimp to convert images?

xpounded.com / Lasso3D (By Robert Spoons)

Thanks in advance for any help & ideas!



@Goodhart: No, I am not looking for a 3D program, just anaglyph conversion software. Anaglyphs are pictures you have to view with "3D" glasses, the most known type is green/red. I am currently playing a bit in Blender, and there are some tutorials and aproches for anaglyph automation there, too. @NachoMahma Well, if its not your interest, you dont have to ;-) Getting some glasses is fun even if you dont plan to run arround taking two pictures to make own anaglypgs; red/cyan is the most popular combination these days, since it has some benefits compared to red/green and therefore commonly used on wikipedia and Anaglyph websites.

ive got a video post here for you. its unfinished work, but i think i can do it by get a measure of edge density at each pixel, but i havent got all the details right yet.

Ok, now you have sparked a bit of interest in my. I remember my Dad's Stereopticon / StereoScope and how cool it was to look at the "cards" and see the picture in 3-d. I came across an article in http://www.3dglasses.com describing the methods used for movies. A fascinating way to "trick" the mind into seeing 3-d on a 2-d screen.

Yes, 3D movies are even more amazing.
When I have the time I will either buy two cheap toy camcorders with flash memory or two identical webcams (since I cant wait to make a 3d stopmotion animation).

Still, I converted about 9 pictures now, a "few by hand" but most with a depthmap and Bas-Relief Demo.
I saw that Anabuilder has a similar feature, but Bas-Relief is easier to handle and runs faster on my slow machine :-)

Anaglyphs are fascinating, but Phantograms take it to the next level (at least the range of applications its usefull for).
Basicly, you photograph an object from a ~45 degree angle, turn it into an phantogram-anaglyph (Anabuilder can do that) and print it out.
If you manage to look at the same angle as it was taken, it seems like the object is acutaly standing on the table where you placed the print.

Of course, if one has the equipment, or the resources to create a similar setup, the upper echelon would be holograms. Animation of a hologram would be way cool.

. Making a hologram is not that hard to do - as long as your expectations of quality aren't very high, especially since decent lasers are readily available, nowadays. The optics require a little bit of skill, but nothing most ppl can't handle. Vibration is usually the problem for DIY holograms - any vibration will degrade the quality dramatically.
. DIY hologram turns up a lot of good stuff. Some of them look VERY easy.

Well, with my budget almost nothing is possible:-) And a holographic movie would be out of the question


Hehe, well I tried to keep it short, I allways tend to make too long posts, but due to the many aspects it got quite long anway. Since I adressed half automatic 2d-to-3d anaglyph automation, I thought mentioning the names of the other programs would be enough for anyone interested in the subject to find the programs using a search engine of their choice. As for me, I am very happy with Bas-Relief which I mentioned in my post-edit. It is awesomely easy, and even though its just a demo, it works great. Everyone should spend a few cent and get a 3D google :-)

. I was talking about clickable links. Guess I didn't make that at all clear; sorry about that. You did provide the info, so it is only a minor inconvenience to have to copy&paste; - but I'm pretty damn lazy. ;) . I only deducted two points (out of 100) from your entry in Nacho's Postings Ratings. LOL . > Everyone should spend a few cent and get a 3D google :-) . Then why don't you tell us where we can get them? Or better yet, how to make them. . . This sounds to me like something that would make a good Instructable.

Well, no problem for both :-)

You can actually make your own; Companies sell the red/cyan colored plastic sheets rather cheap, but it has to be the right color. Most of the 3D-Google stores listed below offer them.
Another possibility is to use printable transparencies for inkjet printer.
There are several websites with instructions and blueprints for that, such as
I have only tried on the laser printer so far, and the transparency gets too milky to see through, plus its too light. My bet is that a inkjet will work better, especialy if you use two prints over each other. The ink of a inkjet printer will be more see-through then the particles of the laser printing process, though at the price of the googles (from 40 cents) theres probably only few occasions printing bad quality googles is an option...

Cheap glasses, some only want a self adressed envelope with stamp:
(http://perspektrum.de/ > germany, just send a 55 cent stamp in an envelope with your adress and the 55 cent google you want)
Else you could check on Froogle or a local price search website.

As for the links to the different programs, I will just post a link to the great all4you.dk freeware archive
http://rosset.org/graphix/anaglyph/zanag_en.htm (more simple then some other tools, which is its greatest advantage but also the biggest downside)
and http://www.xpounded.com (Lasso3D, Auto3D)
which should include most of the applications I mentioned.

I also enjoyed the instructable about the anaglyph-camera-adapter here on Instructables from gibbon
and especialy if you are into 3D software all you need to do really is to ad another camera object :-)

Back to the 2D to 3D conversion.
I might make my first instructable with that ;-)
First I want to make some more samples of mine and also create a 3d stopmotion animated movie.

Just to name a random good tutorial
but its lots more hastle then with the Bas-Relief Demo...

Here are some sample depthmaps I did, unfortunaly I will not post the results since the pictures are private and I do not have permission to post them online :-) But I will do some samples sooner or later.


Even with just those you can pretty much see the depth idea.
Its really easy to do, just use layers with transparency, paint something white up front, dublicate the layer and draw the next behind objects, and so on.

. Well, I don't have much interest in 3-D, but since you went to so much trouble, I feel obliged to at least check it out. :) I checked 2-3 links real quick and it looks like you have quite a list - I'll be checking more. Might even get a set of glasses. . Thanks!

. I can't help you, but would like to give you a big medal for such an excellent message. Anyone that is familiar with 3-D programs (not me) should be able to figure out exactly what you're talking about. My only suggestion (and it's minor) would be to provide more links to the software.