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Help With Senior Project; Building a MOUT Facility. Answered

Even though it is a few years down the road (two, to be precise), I would like to begin this ambitious project sooner rather than later. I plan to build an Airsoft/ Paintball MOUT (Military Operations in Urban Terrain) facility, that is, a small scale town to do battle in. An example would be the Jericho facility found via Google search. It is my hope to build this (mine, not Jericho) facility and make a profit from it, possibly turn it into a business. I know this is a major project, which is why I am asking for any advice you can give. Is there any way I can obtain cheap materials? Have any hints on buying or (hopefully) obtaining free land? Any advice at all will be appreciated.

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if your going to make houses/bunkers than use ply wood because it is less expensive and more easey to build and nobody will brake the buildings if they are ok

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Berkin

9 years ago

Try looking around in houses-for-sale listings. Sometimes, they list empty lots, which can be bought in the same manner as a house. Good luck.

Make sure too keep zoning in mind. You can't start a business on a residential plot.

Hmmm, the lowest listing is 1.06 Acres for $85,000. Which brings on the next question: how many acres do I need?

I have no idea. Depends on you, pretty much.

NOTE: I'll be closing my account soon. fyi

Depends on how many "courses" you want. I've never played airsoft, but I've played paintball. A good outdoors, wooded course will be about 1/4 - 1/2 acre. I'd say buy a plot with some land next to it so there's room to expand if your endeavor becomes lucrative. Also, what makes you want to invest in recreation in this recession? You crazy, boy!

How 'bout thirty-five Acres for $2,000,000 (the highest listing on the website I looked at). :P I'll probably aim for one or two acres, depending on the cost. Thanks for the advise! How is your instrument business doing?

WOW thats alot in wny it is so much cheaper than that ; P

Ah! You remembered! Well, when you're trying to sell instruments, people buy over the summer (it's like buying school supplies, no one buys all their supplies in February, for example.) So I'm experiencing a dead market ATM but once summer kicks in, I'd say I'd be able to sell more. It's pretty profitable though, I make about 200% off of every instrument I repair and clean. 1-2 acres sound like a good starting point. In West TX, land is about $50/ac, but you're looking at STEEP untraversable terrain. 35ac for 2mil$ is about $57k/ac, but the less amount of land you buy, the more it'll cost you in most cases. Your best bet would be working out some sort of deal with someone who already owns the land ("If you're not using this land, can I make a MOUT and give you x% of profits" etc)

I'd suggest asking local shipping or other buisnesses for their wooden pallets. These make great cover, about three to a bunker. Tell me when your finished, maybe Ill fly a plane out west to shoot em' up :) -PKT

1. check with local laws 2. save 3. First buy 1-2 aks. of land 4. buy wood crates and large shipping crates 5. plan , you need to draw out what you want 6. get some friends together to help 7. buy the name you want and get the copyrights 8. buy insurance for the business 9. advertise 10. bring in money 11. upgrade after awhile 12. let me in for free!!!!

Get a bunch of connexs and stack them on top of each other. Thats what the Army does. Cut holes for windows, use cheap plywood for doors. Play some haji music over some loud speakers. You can bid for shipping containers really cheep, only thing is your going to need a truck driver (you can bid for those as well) and a welder. Connexs start at 150 bucks a pop. I dont see this happening without at least 10 grand in cash. (not including land), and if you got the scratch for that you might as well step up to m16s with blank adapters,full battle rattle and MILES for "realistic game play"

Forgot to include a link for Government Surplus shipping containers
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2240633&convertTo=USD

Land out where I live is only 4 grand an acre. But few people are selling because of what is underneath. ("dinosaur wine")
With a road, and say 10 containers you could make a decent setup. The only maintenance cost would be the road, and that's going to get expensive real quick, you can just replace the containers once they get unserviceable.

Man I'm having a hard enough time trying to find land to stick horses on, and your PAINTBALLING on it? Haha, to each his own. Land's a pain to buy, see if a lease option is available.

Now that is cool! I am also playing around with the idea of making this facility reconfigurable. How did you obtain the shipping containers? The Seattle/ Tacoma area has fairly large shipping industries, but I don't think I can just waltz in and pluck up a few containers.

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PKM

9 years ago

Land: a friend of mine works for a utility company and he pointed out that the company have regular auctions of parcels of empty land they no longer require. This means you can buy a patch of empty land, possibly with a concrete water reservoir in it, for the equivalent of a few hundred or couple of thousand dollars. Land is hella expensive in the UK so I'm pretty sure you could find something similar stateside. Make absolutely sure you can get planning permission for change of land usage, though.

Materials: assuming you just want low-ish grade timber, plywood etc. for constructing building skeletons, your local tip, recycling depot, "materials reclamation facility" or whatever they call it should be a first port of call. You can almost certainly get a lot of odds and ends by placing adverts offering to collect unwanted building materials, half-finished cans of paint etc. I'm assuming you have or will have a van, pickup or other suitable vehicle because without one a project this scale will be a nightmare.

Once you see what you can get your hands on you can plan what is feasible to build and fill in the gaps by buying the missing materials.

Business: are you familiar with the legal issues, public liability insurance and so on that come with running a business like the one you propose? I don't- that's why I ask.

Other: can the people who make really helpful suggestions get free entry? :P

This means you can buy a patch of empty land, possibly with a concrete water reservoir in it, for the equivalent of a few hundred or couple of thousand dollars.
Wow, I'll have to look into that. Thanks!

assuming you just want low-ish grade timber, plywood etc. for constructing building skeletons
Yes, you pretty much nailed that (puns are fun!). I think I can haul most, if not all, of the materials with the Suburban (either in the trailer or in the back). It's pretty much the workhorse of our family. Thanks!

are you familiar with the legal issues, public liability insurance and so on that come with running a business like the one you propose? I don't- that's why I ask.
Yes. I do an annual trip to the Danger Zone Paintball field with my friends. We always have to sign this waiver:
http://dzpinc.qwestoffice.net/waiver.pdf

can the people who make really helpful suggestions get free entry? :P
Sure thing! All you have to do is drive over here. That's right, I said drive. You are an iBler, I'm sure you could figure out how to drive across an ocean. But really, I'd let you in free just for the fact that you came all the way from the UK! :P

Sure thing! All you have to do is drive over here. That's right, I said drive. You are an iBler, I'm sure you could figure out how to drive across an ocean

How to drive across an ocean

Admittedly, it's a small lake rather than an ocean, but Jeremy's Toyota pickup + outboard formula was so successful they did actually go to France on one.

Not sure I want to cross the Atlantic in a welded-up Hilux, but the principle is there.

Now that was insanely awesome. I can just picture you pulling into the harbor in that truck. That would be a sight to see!

Perhaps you could just rent Detroit or Cleveland, they're pretty much abandoned at this point.

Sweet, thanks!
Aw, why do all the interestingthings have to be so far away! I think the hardest thing to get relatively cheap will be the land. Craigslist looks like it is full of goodies.

It will be a little more advanced than a backyard airsoft battlefield... I'm talking about a full blown Airsoft/ Paintball facility.

ok I see .. I will make some research on internet and I give you some news