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Hi-Cap horizontal magazine concept Answered

Here is a concept I came up with a while ago. Basically, it is just a mechanism that allows a normal grey connector mag (I.e. One that would be used vertically) to be used horizontally, and so solving the problem of the low capacity of traditional knex horizontal magazines. However it is not without issues. The model used in these pictures is rather large, and there is an issue where the pusher cannot push the last connector out fully. Anyway, I thought I'd just I'd post this so if anybody is interested, they can use this concept and/or improve it so all issues are fixed. Just make sure to give me credit

pictures:
1) overview 
2/3)  overview of the mechanism
4) the red rod blocks the rotating mechanism so that no ammo falls out when not in use. Pull it out to initiate feeding

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I feel like this is way easier to build than a true replica of the one on the p90 with a spiral feed and bolt, but a little less cool... I might use this if mine fails but I think this is probably the only current horizontal mag to have been made out of knex. Good job!

to be honest I doubt a true spiral fed mag will even be possible in K'NEX. I also discourage the use of this mag as it is unreliable and tricky to implement, unless you want to take the concept, which I think does have promise, and come up with a better design

you could 3D print the magazine, but not everyone has one or can use one..

Not in this way, kinetic's mag has its bullets held horizontally, whereas this one has its bullets held vertically, but are then fed horizontally. admittedly, this one is a lot less reliable

sorry but, how is it high cap?

Believe it or not, I had an idea for this kind of magazine a long time ago. I built a prototype that used a hand operated lever/piston to push the round into the chamber. It never really worked well, though.

sounds interesting. Do you have any pictures?

No, it was broken a long time ago. It also used my railgun concept pin that was used in several of my other guns, so it would be compact. I might revisit this idea again sometime.

That's pretty cool, and I think you're on to something. I was thinking up ways to do something similar but I never thought of using a lever of sorts that helps push a connector into position. And then it also blocks the magazine when a rod is inserted.

yeah the lever is what really makes this work as it both allows for a smoother rotation of the ammo and it allows you to block the end of the mag. I'll do a bit of experimenting with the concept to see if I can iron out the issues and by all means if you want a go at using the concept please do!

How is this different than kinetic's magazine design, or the one I use in my knex gun? They both have internal pushers and the ammo is blocked at the top so it doesn't fall out. This one doesn't have any broken parts at the moment, but I wonder how you'd make it work in a gun without any broken parts.

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as TheDunkis said, this is horizontal and has a higher capacity than the more traditional horizontal mags which have the grey connector positioned lengthways. It also uses less pieces and has a higher capacity than the only other horizontal mag which has an internal pusher, which is kinetics kls mag. What is there not to like?

Really well thought out, and I can see the usability of this... Now, how to insert it into a gun...?

Thanks! I was thinking of using this idea in a semi auto similar to kinetics's kls, which would make for a decent indoor war gun due to the fast rate of fire and high capacity magazine